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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.electronics |
| Subject | Re: Reliability of electronics |
| Date | 2022-05-31 14:18 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <jflj89F85glU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 31/05/2022 2:08 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 31/05/2022 2:02 pm, Phil Allison wrote: >> Trevor Wilson wrote: >> ================= >>>> >>> **Good plan. FWIW: The Model 500 never overheated. Thermostat >>> controlled, two speed fan cooled. Output devices were all mica/thermal >>> paste mounted. Even after repair (using original output devices) the >>> amps failed. Only after the output devices were substituted with >>> Japanese types did reliability significantly improve. >>> >> >> ** Were the SJs in steel or Aluminium paks? >> >> Early 70s Motorola TO3s had a big problem with thermal expansion of >> chip headers. >> The silicon and the header had differing tempcos of expansion. >> The end result was the chip developed micro cracks. >> >> Such devices were speced at a mere 5000 thermal cycles. >> OK for some apps but not class AB audio. >> Sudden, unaccountable failure was the norm. >> >> Aluminium paks got dumped and were never seen again. > > **BTW: The Marantz Models: 240, 250, 250M, 1120, 1200/B, 140, 2270, 2275 > all used Motorola aluminium cased To3 devices. All demonstrated > reasonable reliability. None were fan cooled like the Model 500. The > Model 500 ran much cooler than all those models under normal operation. **Oh and with all those models, a visual inspection of the output devices would frequently and quickly reveal the problem - A tiny pinhole in the case, where, presumably, a piece of white hot silicon ejected itself from the header.
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Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-30 17:24 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-30 19:33 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 16:01 -0700
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 10:35 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 17:59 -0700
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 11:31 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 18:52 -0700
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 12:00 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 20:03 -0700
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 13:45 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 21:02 -0700
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 14:05 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 14:08 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2022-05-31 14:18 +1000
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 21:32 -0700
Re: Reliability of electronics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2022-05-30 21:26 -0700
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