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Re: OT: US politics

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  Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-03 19:52 +1000
    Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 09:52 +1000
      Re: OT: US politics Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:42 +1000
        Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 14:56 +1000
          Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:18 +1000
            Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 16:50 +1000
              Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 20:02 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 08:19 +1000
              Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-05 07:31 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 07:46 +1000
                  Re: OT: US politics Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 11:13 +1000
                    Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 13:28 +1000
                      Re: OT: US politics Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 14:14 +1000
                      Re: OT: US politics Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:29 +1000
                        Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 20:32 +1000
                          Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 20:35 +1000
                          Re: OT: US politics Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-05 22:36 +1000
                            Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 05:39 +1100
                              Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 06:20 +1100
                                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 09:17 +1100
                                  Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 12:59 +1100
                                    Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 13:55 +1100
                    Re: OT: US politics Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-05 23:36 +1000
          Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 16:35 +1000
          Re: OT: US politics Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-28 20:25 +1000
            Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:35 +1000
        Re: OT: US politics Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:41 +1000
      Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-06 11:42 +1100
        Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 13:00 +1100
        Re: OT: US politics Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-06 13:18 +1100
        Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 13:49 +1100
    Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:11 +1000

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#71359 — Re: OT: US politics

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>
Date2024-10-03 19:52 +1000
SubjectRe: OT: US politics
Message-ID<lm77q3Fi2atU1@mid.individual.net>
On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
 > "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
 > the last election.

**Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as 
Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/how-trumps-proposed-radical-expansion-of-executive-power-will-impact-our-freedoms

Trump asked for and received presidential immunity from any future 
crimes he may (likely, will) commit.

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/supreme-court-grants-trump-broad-immunity-for-official-acts-placing-presidents-above-the-law

Of course, appalling that the Trump appointed judges are, that decision 
may come back to bite them (and Trump), as Biden now has the power to 
put a bullet into Trump's head.


Far from being a threat to democracy, he is the only
 > way to save it!

**Wrong. Trump has already damaged the US in many ways. He has killed 
off many American's right to their own bodies. Abortion is now illegal 
in many US states, thanks to Trump's judges.

Let me explain: if even 1 in 20 illegals become citizens
 > per year, something that the Democrats are expediting as fast as humanly
 > possible, that would be about 2 million new legal voters in 4 years.

**Prove your claim. Hard evidence will be accepted, not heresay or 
ANYTHING from Trump's lips. Trump is a liar:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

The
 > voting margin in the swing states is often less than 20 thousand votes.
 > That means if the “Democratic” Party succeeds, there will be no more
 > swing states!!

**Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

Moreover, the Biden/Harris administration has been flying
 > “asylum seekers”, who are fast-tracked to citizenship, directly into
 > swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin and Arizona.

**Prove it. Hard evidence will only be accepted.


It is a
 > surefire way to win every election. America then becomes a one-party
 > state and Democracy is over.

**That is PRECISELY what Trump wants:

https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

It's evil and will turn the US into a one party (Republican) state. Read 
every fucking word, BEFORE you make another comment.


The only “elections” will be the Democratic
 > Party primaries.

**No, they will not. It's TRUMP who wants to throw the US Constitution away:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

This already happened in California many years ago,
 > following the 1986 amnesty.

**Bullshit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

It was simply dealing with reality.


The only thing holding California back from
 > extreme socialism and suffocating government policies is that people can
 > leave California and still remain in America.

**Are you fucking serious now? By any measure, California is way further 
right wing (even with a left wing state government) than any place in 
Australia. Have you ever been to California? I have. A few times.

Once the whole country is
 > controlled by one party, there will be no escape.

**Which is what is proposed by Trumpists:

https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

Trump began by stacking the Supreme Court with a bunch of right wing, 
religious, gun loving nutters. He will continue by locking up those who 
disagree with him:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html


Everywhere in America
 > will be like the nightmare that is downtown San Francisco.” - Elon Musk
 > via X

**If the Turmpists (I won't call them 'Republicans', because they are 
not really Republicans anymore. They are just neo-Nazis.

 >
 > If you believe the democrats’ rallying cry of “saving democracy,” I’ve
 > got a bridge to sell you. In reality, this is what “saving democracy”
 > looks like:
 > .
 > A one party state

**Bullshit. Read this (IN FULL):

https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

 > Censorship

**Bullshit:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/09/republican-book-bans-censorship-free-speech

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

 > Gun confiscation

**Bullshit. Harris is a gun owner. That said, I reckon Americans are 
fucking idiots for NOT placing much heavier restrictions on firearms. 
Much as I hate John Howard, the one, shining good thing he did was to 
enact gun reform in Australia.

 > Social credit scores

**Prove it.

 > Destruction of the Constitution

**Bullshit. That's what the Trumpists want:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html


 > Persecution of dissidents

**Again, bullshit. That's what the Trumpists want:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

 > Centralization of economic and political power

**Prove it.

 > .
 > In fact, it looks like whatever the left wants it to look like because
 > they will have total power and complete control…over you, your finances,
 > your property, your movement, your health, your body, your children,
 > EVERYTHING!

**You fucking moron. That's what Trump has already done!

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/24/1102305878/supreme-court-abortion-roe-v-wade-decision-overturn


 > .
 > Elon gets it. “Saving democracy” looks exactly like totalitarianism.

**Elon sees that the Trumpists will cut taxes for the rich. No one is 
richer than Musk, so he supports Trump. He will become richer under Trump.


 >
 >
 > communismsurvivor <https://www.instagram.com/communismsurvivor/>
 >
 > .........................................................
 >
 > now you know why they opened the Southern border.

**Did they? When. Be precise in your response you fucking moron.


Read EVERY SINGLE WORD of my cites, BEFORE you attempt to reply.


Fuck me, you are a moron.


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#71365

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-04 09:52 +1000
Message-ID<27bufjdffnthtgfs40g2ekab1lofjbv7fa@4ax.com>
In reply to#71359
On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> > "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
> > the last election.
>
>**Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as 
>Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>
The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
-- 
Petzl 
According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
anticipate so MANY votes.

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#71371

FromMighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
Date2024-10-04 10:42 +1000
Message-ID<lm8s0jFpoqiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71365
Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
>>> the last election.
>> **Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>>
> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more

by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's ass 
in their debate

-- 
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.

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#71372

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-04 14:56 +1000
Message-ID<r8tufjdf0kta59ja53u8u8u3a65kdjetcl@4ax.com>
In reply to#71371
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:42:56 +1000, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
>>>> the last election.
>>> **Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>>>
>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
>
>by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's ass 
>in their debate
>
Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators
-- 
Petzl 
According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
anticipate so MANY votes.

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#71373

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>
Date2024-10-04 16:18 +1000
Message-ID<lm9fm2Fsc6fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71372
On 4/10/2024 2:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:42:56 +1000, Mighty Mouse
> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
> 
>> Petzl wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
>>>>> the last election.
>>>> **Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>>>>
>>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
>>
>> by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's ass
>> in their debate
>>
> Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators

**Is that so?

How?

Be precise in your response.

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#71376

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-04 16:50 +1000
Message-ID<hs2vfjhbjoe37livqsr5elcph8davc0qid@4ax.com>
In reply to#71373
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 16:18:43 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 4/10/2024 2:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:42:56 +1000, Mighty Mouse
>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
>>>>>> the last election.
>>>>> **Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>>>>>
>>>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>>>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>>>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
>>>
>>> by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's ass
>>> in their debate
>>>
>> Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators
>
>**Is that so?
>
>How?
>
>Be precise in your response.
>
No wars under Trump for starters
Hardly a day goes by without new war headlines under Harris/Biden
https://youtu.be/6rB50nu64VY?si=0IsxWGrXGelSL6J0
"THE WORLD HOLDS ITS BREATH AS WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF WW3!" THEY WANT
TO MAKE SURE YOU PICK A SIDE!
The same with the American economy going tits up and Australia will
follow
Democrat news media still bad picture
https://youtu.be/9yU_bVZqqYk?si=94ey20WXuA6nHKKZ
Why The U.S. Won’t Pay Down Its Debt

BRICS PETRODOLLAR
https://youtu.be/fyR-d-K8g-Y?si=5pU0IONRLthdZgcl
BRICS 2024 - The Rise To Global Influence 
-- 
Petzl 
Barack Obama once warned not to underestimate 
Joe Biden’s ‘ability to f**k things up’

Trump was never running against Biden. 
He was running against voter fraud.
 https://youtu.be/U4c5dYDD9xw
The Democrats’ First Bill of 2021 Is to Lock In 
Fraudulent Election Maneuvers and Steal Elections in Perpetuity

The left loathes Trump so much it totally blinds them
 to anything he says, even when what he says 
could potentially save thousands of lives.

Amazing where in America a lifetime of corruption, gutless, lying, thieving, 
fraud, cheating, Propagandist' and 'Bigot will take you in politics?
https://youtu.be/D1j0FS0Z6ho
Joe Biden's son, zero track record, for jobs in languages
he don't speak thrown out of navy for doing coke, 
turned in a rental car with crack pipes in it, 
hid from a process server for getting a girl pregnant 
to avoid child support. 
And now he's a high paid artist with no discernible talent. 

Five days with dad on Chinese trip was paid US$1.5 billion dollars?
Corruption by proxy,a new corruption that is difficult to detect 

Joe Biden had a little boy
 his nose was white with snow
And everywhere Joe Biden went
 his son was sure to go
He followed to Ukraine one day
 and scored a lot of dough
This made Joe Biden worry so
 he did a quid pro quo : Anon

Somewhere out there is a 2-year-old girl whose mother is a stripper,
her father is a crackhead and her grandpa is President of the United States
. --Fact check THAT. 

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#71381

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-04 20:02 +1000
Message-ID<op.2u33ipbhbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71376
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Petzl wrote
>>> Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote

>>>>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this  
>>>>>>> will be the last election.

>>>>>> Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>>>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:

>>>>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>>>>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>>>>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more

>>>> by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's  
>>>> ass   in their debate

>>> Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators

>> Is that so?

>> How?

>> Be precise in your response.

> No wars under Trump for starters

Wrong, as always, most obviously with Syria.

> Hardly a day goes by without new war headlines under Harris/Biden
> https://youtu.be/6rB50nu64VY?si=0IsxWGrXGelSL6J0

Even sillier than you usually manage and nothing to do with Harris and  
Biden.

> "THE WORLD HOLDS ITS BREATH AS WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF WW3!"

Just because some terminal fuckwit hyperventilates...

> THEY WANT  TO MAKE SURE YOU PICK A SIDE!

> The same with the American economy going tits up

Just another pathetic drug crazed drunken fantasy

> and Australia will   follow

Just another pathetic drug crazed drunken fantasy

> Democrat news media still bad picture
> https://youtu.be/9yU_bVZqqYk?si=94ey20WXuA6nHKKZ
> Why The U.S. Won’t Pay Down Its Debt

Just because some terminal fuckwit hyperventilates...

> BRICS PETRODOLLAR
> https://youtu.be/fyR-d-K8g-Y?si=5pU0IONRLthdZgcl
> BRICS 2024 - The Rise To Global Influence

Just because some terminal fuckwit hyperventilates...

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#71387

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-05 08:19 +1000
Message-ID<ubq0gjtu24ieag17dkq0fke6rbum4jle8t@4ax.com>
In reply to#71381
On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:02:39 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Petzl wrote
>>>> Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote
>
>>>>>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this  
>>>>>>>> will be the last election.
>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>>>>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>
>>>>>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>>>>>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>>>>>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
>
>>>>> by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's  
>>>>> ass   in their debate
>
>>>> Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators
>
>>> Is that so?
>
>>> How?
>
>>> Be precise in your response.
>
>> No wars under Trump for starters
>
>Wrong, as always, most obviously with Syria.
>
>> Hardly a day goes by without new war headlines under Harris/Biden
>> https://youtu.be/6rB50nu64VY?si=0IsxWGrXGelSL6J0
>
>Even sillier than you usually manage and nothing to do with Harris and  
>Biden.
>
Hard to beat your s Gypsy lady and her Ouija board
Or even worse "Our ABC"

>> "THE WORLD HOLDS ITS BREATH AS WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF WW3!"
>
>Just because some terminal fuckwit hyperventilates...
>
Hard to beat your s Gypsy lady and her Ouija board
Or even worse "Our ABC"

>> THEY WANT  TO MAKE SURE YOU PICK A SIDE!
>
>> The same with the American economy going tits up
>
>Just another pathetic drug crazed drunken fantasy
>
Hard to beat your s Gypsy lady and her Ouija board
Or even worse "Our ABC"

>> and Australia will   follow
>
>Just another pathetic drug crazed drunken fantasy
>
Hard to beat your s Gypsy lady and her Ouija board
Or even worse "Our ABC"

>> Democrat news media still bad picture
>> https://youtu.be/9yU_bVZqqYk?si=94ey20WXuA6nHKKZ
>> Why The U.S. Won’t Pay Down Its Debt
>
>Just because some terminal fuckwit hyperventilates...
>
Hard to beat your s Gypsy lady and her Ouija board
Or even worse "Our ABC"

>> BRICS PETRODOLLAR
>> https://youtu.be/fyR-d-K8g-Y?si=5pU0IONRLthdZgcl
>> BRICS 2024 - The Rise To Global Influence
>
>Just because some terminal fuckwit hyperventilates...
>
Hard to beat your s Gypsy lady and her Ouija board
Or even worse "Our ABC"
-- 
Petzl 
According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
anticipate so MANY votes.

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#71383

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>
Date2024-10-05 07:31 +1000
Message-ID<lmb54pF5tv4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71376
On 4/10/2024 4:50 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 16:18:43 +1000, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/10/2024 2:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:42:56 +1000, Mighty Mouse
>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
>>>>>>> the last election.
>>>>>> **Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>>>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>>>>>>
>>>>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>>>>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>>>>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
>>>>
>>>> by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's ass
>>>> in their debate
>>>>
>>> Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators
>>
>> **Is that so?
>>
>> How?
>>
>> Be precise in your response.
>>
> No wars under Trump for starters

**Bullshit. Not only did the US lose people in Afghanistan under Trump, 
but Trump did a deal with international criminals in order for them to 
take over the country and allow them to kill and torture with impunity.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/us/politics/trump-biden-afghan-taliban.html

Trump made the fundamental error of assuming that the Taliban, ISIS and 
other terrorist groups can be dealt with. They can only be exterminated. 
Trump destroyed years of work by the US and it's allies in Afghanistan.

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#71384

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-05 07:46 +1000
Message-ID<op.2u4z3awfbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71383
On Sat, 05 Oct 2024 07:31:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson  
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 4/10/2024 4:50 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 16:18:43 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/10/2024 2:56 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:42:56 +1000, Mighty Mouse
>>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:52:03 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this  
>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>> the last election.
>>>>>>> **Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as
>>>>>>> Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only Trouble with Trump is the bed fellows he picked
>>>>>> Then listened to all stabbed him in the back from day one.
>>>>>> Distrust the unelected Biden/Harris crime cartel more
>>>>>
>>>>> by all reports he made a good pick with JD Vance, who whopped Tim's  
>>>>> ass
>>>>> in their debate
>>>>>
>>>> Hope so, the whole world is going down under Biden/Harris operators
>>>
>>> Is that so?
>>>
>>> How?
>>>
>>> Be precise in your response.
>>>
>> No wars under Trump for starters

> Bullshit. Not only did the US lose people in Afghanistan under Trump,

But Trump did negotiate leaving Afghanistan with the Talibums.

> but Trump did a deal with international criminalsin order for them to   
> take over the country

The Talibums had taken over the country LONG before Trump had any say on  
anything.

> and allow them to kill and torture with impunity.

There was no way to stop them doing that.

> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/us/politics/trump-biden-afghan-taliban.html

Just because some fool journo in that shit rag claims something...

> Trump made the fundamental error of assuming that theTaliban, ISIS and   
> other terrorist groups can be dealt with.

It turned out that the Talibums did do what they agreed to do.

And Trump did not negotiate with ISIS, he and the Russians
fucked them over in Syria very comprehensively indeed, FAR
better than any other previous military action in the middle east.

> They can only be exterminated.

Not even possible to do that with the Talibums as the west discovered.

And that's what Trump did with ISIS along with the russians in Syria, FAR
more successfully than any other US president has done in the middle east.

> Trump destroyed years of work by the US and it's allies in Afghanistan.

The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

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#71390

FromKeithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au>
Date2024-10-05 11:13 +1000
Message-ID<lmbi5vF7qkmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71384
On 5/10/2024 7:46 am, Rod Speed wrote:

> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.

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#71392

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-05 13:28 +1000
Message-ID<op.2u5fyhznbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71390
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.

The Talibums have, twice.

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#71393

FromMighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
Date2024-10-05 14:14 +1000
Message-ID<lmbspfF9amoU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71392
Rod Speed wrote:
> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.
>
>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.
>
> The Talibums have, twice.

yep.

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#71395

FromKeithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au>
Date2024-10-05 19:29 +1000
Message-ID<lmcf80Fc00hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71392
On 5/10/2024 1:28 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
> 
>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.
> 
>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.
> 
> The Talibums have, twice.

Last I heard, they are actually Afghans. What I was talking bout was 
foreign attempts to take the country.

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#71396

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-05 20:32 +1000
Message-ID<op.2u5zjpjhbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71395
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

>>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.

>>  The Talibums have, twice.

> Last I heard, they are actually Afghans.

Then you need a new hearing aid, particularly with the first one.

> What I was talking bout was  foreign attempts to take the country.

Which is precisely what happened with the first one.

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#71397

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-05 20:35 +1000
Message-ID<op.2u5zozsobyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71396
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

>>>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.

>>>  The Talibums have, twice.

>> Last I heard, they are actually Afghans.

> Then you need a new hearing aid, particularly with the first one.

>> What I was talking bout was  foreign attempts to take the country.

You never said that.

> Which is precisely what happened with the first one.

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#71398

FromXeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Date2024-10-05 22:36 +1000
Message-ID<lmcq6lFdh76U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#71396
On 5/10/2024 8:32 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
> 
>>>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.
> 
>>>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.
> 
>>>  The Talibums have, twice.
> 
>> Last I heard, they are actually Afghans.
> 
> Then you need a new hearing aid, particularly with the first one.
> 
>> What I was talking bout was  foreign attempts to take the country.
> 
> Which is precisely what happened with the first one.

Currently it's the Chinese. They *need* afghanistan.

-- 
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
       (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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#71400

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-06 05:39 +1100
Message-ID<op.2u6l3ibmbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71398
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

>>>>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.

>>>> The Talibums have, twice.

>>> Last I heard, they are actually Afghans.

>>  Then you need a new hearing aid, particularly with the first one.

>>> What I was talking bout was  foreign attempts to take the country.

>>  Which is precisely what happened with the first one.

> Currently it's the Chinese.

Nope, its actually the Talibums and they have succeeded very well indeed.

> They *need* afghanistan.

Fantasy

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#71401

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-06 06:20 +1100
Message-ID<f643gj931gtgtlupapvf1kvp0h7kllumpc@4ax.com>
In reply to#71400
On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 05:39:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>>>>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.
>
>>>>>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.
>
>>>>> The Talibums have, twice.
>
>>>> Last I heard, they are actually Afghans.
>
>>>  Then you need a new hearing aid, particularly with the first one.
>
>>>> What I was talking bout was  foreign attempts to take the country.
>
>>>  Which is precisely what happened with the first one.
>
>> Currently it's the Chinese.
>
>Nope, its actually the Talibums and they have succeeded very well indeed.
>
Pakistan formed run and financed the Taliban in the mid-1990s. 

Now the Taliban are fighting with Pakistan
>
>> They *need* afghanistan.
>
>Fantasy
-- 
Petzl
"PM Erdogan: The Term “Moderate Islam” Is Ugly And Offensive;
 There Is No Moderate Islam; Islam Is Islam"

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#71402

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2024-10-06 09:17 +1100
Message-ID<op.2u6v71v5byq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to#71401
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>>> The US and its allies were never going to succeed in Afghanistan.

>>>>>>> Nobody has ever succeeded in Afghanistan.

>>>>>> The Talibums have, twice.

>>>>> Last I heard, they are actually Afghans.

>>>>  Then you need a new hearing aid, particularly with the first one.

>>>>> What I was talking bout was  foreign attempts to take the country.

>>>>  Which is precisely what happened with the first one.

>>> Currently it's the Chinese.

>> Nope, its actually the Talibums and theyhave succeeded very well   
>> indeed.

> Pakistan formed run and financed the Taliban in the mid-1990s.

Yep

> Now the Taliban are fighting with Pakistan

Nope

>>> They *need* afghanistan.

>> Fantasy

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