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| Started by | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100 |
| Last post | 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100 |
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The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 17:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 17:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 18:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 19:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 20:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 08:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 09:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 00:08 +0000
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 11:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 12:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:45 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:34 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 15:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:30 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:14 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 19:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 20:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 05:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:21 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:57 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:00 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 21:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:47 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:35 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 16:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:14 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 19:42 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 20:57 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-25 08:08 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:37 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 19:11 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:55 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:11 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:36 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:51 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 11:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:34 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 21:55 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-12-24 23:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:20 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 18:50 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:29 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 18:00 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 19:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:26 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-26 19:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 22:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 23:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:03 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 14:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 14:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:32 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 12:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 13:10 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:37 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:21 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 00:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 20:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 18:37 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:41 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 06:03 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:18 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 17:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 18:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100
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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 07:16 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vk9vj0$q0c8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71508 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > > Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award > winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor > > https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) > > or watch the documentary .. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding something by qualified experts in the subject. alvey
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 11:17 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsrog6Fb2eqU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71537 |
alvey wrote: > Mighty Mouse wrote: >> >> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >> >> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >> >> or watch the documentary .. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc > > Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a > political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding something by > qualified experts in the subject. > > so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? > > alvey > -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 11:32 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkaek7$sm9n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71541 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > alvey wrote: >> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> >>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>> >>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>> >>> or watch the documentary .. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >> >> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a >> political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding something by >> qualified experts in the subject. >> >> > > so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? Nope. That's not what I said. And stop with the whacky extrapolation. We get enough of that from The Bumhole (Vic) Buffoon. alvey
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 13:59 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lss1vmFcgjlU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71547 |
alvey wrote: > Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> >>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>> >>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>> >>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>> >>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a >>> political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding something by >>> qualified experts in the subject. >>> >>> >> >> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? > > Nope. That's not what I said. you implied it > > And stop with the whacky extrapolation. We get enough of that from The > Bumhole (Vic) Buffoon. > > > alvey > > > -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 15:17 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lss6jnFd56jU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71553 |
On 23/12/2024 1:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> alvey wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award
>>>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>
>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>
>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a
>>>> political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding something by
>>>> qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>
>> Nope. That's not what I said.
>
> you implied it
No, what he implied was that the journalist had no credentials in the
subject. This line;
>>>> Try finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>
>>
>> And stop with the whacky extrapolation. We get enough of that from The
>> Bumhole (Vic) Buffoon.
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 15:46 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsusljFqhl9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71559 |
Xeno wrote: > On 23/12/2024 1:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> alvey wrote: >>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>> >>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>> >>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>> >>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by >>>>> a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding >>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? >>> >>> Nope. That's not what I said. >> >> you implied it > > No, what he implied was that the journalist had no credentials in the > subject. This line; > > >>>> Try finding something by qualified experts in the subject. he implied it by saying "Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch" ie. suggesting whatever is said has no credibility. but I exaggerated for effect by saying 'everything' was >> >>> >>> And stop with the whacky extrapolation. We get enough of that from >>> The Bumhole (Vic) Buffoon. >>> >>> >>> alvey >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ' -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 18:29 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsv66uFrrvnU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71588 |
On 24/12/2024 3:46 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 23/12/2024 1:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> alvey wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,
>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by
>>>>>> a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding
>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. That's not what I said.
>>>
>>> you implied it
>>
>> No, what he implied was that the journalist had no credentials in the
>> subject. This line;
>>
>> >>>> Try finding something by qualified experts in the subject.
>
> he implied it by saying "Why would anyone interested in this subject
> bother with a piece by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch" ie.
> suggesting whatever is said has no credibility. but I exaggerated for
> effect by saying 'everything' was
>
When it comes to Murdoch journalists, I agree with Alvey.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And stop with the whacky extrapolation. We get enough of that from
>>>> The Bumhole (Vic) Buffoon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> '
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | alvey <Factman@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-23 18:23 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkb6m3$1488o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71553 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > alvey wrote: >> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> alvey wrote: >>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>> >>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>> >>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>> >>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by a >>>> political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding something by >>>> qualified experts in the subject. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? >> >> Nope. That's not what I said. > > you implied it I implied no such thing. It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* in the employ of Murdoch, indisputably a climate change denier. And from what I saw in the advert, aside from the pensioner, every other person who appeared was in the employ of Old Power. You don't need to lie to be dishonest you know. alvey -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 15:48 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsusopFqhl9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71574 |
alvey wrote: > Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> alvey wrote: >>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>> >>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>> >>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>> >>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by >>>>> a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding >>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? >>> >>> Nope. That's not what I said. >> >> you implied it > > I implied no such thing. > > It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political > journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* in > the employ of Murdoch, that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said > indisputably a climate change denier. And from what I saw in the > advert, aside from the pensioner, every other person who appeared was > in the employ of Old Power. You don't need to lie to be dishonest you > know. > > > alvey > > > -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 15:40 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkdhgc$1mgob$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71589 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > alvey wrote: >> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> alvey wrote: >>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece by >>>>>> a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding >>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? >>>> >>>> Nope. That's not what I said. >>> >>> you implied it >> >> I implied no such thing. >> >> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* in >> the employ of Murdoch, > > that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? alvey Mentioning that they didn't even mention that the brown coal whose use they were recommending was the very worst type of the stuff.
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 20:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvbgpFsp5jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71593 |
alvey wrote: > Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> alvey wrote: >>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece >>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding >>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? >>>>> >>>>> Nope. That's not what I said. >>>> >>>> you implied it >>> >>> I implied no such thing. >>> >>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* >>> in the employ of Murdoch, >> >> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said > > I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was a > coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. Could > you remind me of the facts that were listed? it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, infrastructure, construction and maintenance. > > > > alvey > Mentioning that they didn't even mention that the brown coal whose use > they were recommending was the very worst type of the stuff. -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | alvey <Factman@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 19:11 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vkdts5$1p490$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71604 |
Mighty Mouse wrote: > alvey wrote: >> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> alvey wrote: >>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, >>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece >>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding >>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. That's not what I said. >>>>> >>>>> you implied it >>>> >>>> I implied no such thing. >>>> >>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* >>>> in the employ of Murdoch, >>> >>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >> >> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was a >> coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. Could >> you remind me of the facts that were listed? > > it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not > junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not > necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, infrastructure, > construction and maintenance. Umm. What you've done there is exactly what I pointed out about your propaganda video. You've stated opinions, *not* facts. alvey -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 20:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvcfiFspo2U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71604 |
On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> alvey wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,
>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece
>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding
>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. That's not what I said.
>>>>>
>>>>> you implied it
>>>>
>>>> I implied no such thing.
>>>>
>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political
>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and*
>>>> in the employ of Murdoch,
>>>
>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said
>>
>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was a
>> coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. Could
>> you remind me of the facts that were listed?
>
> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not
> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not
> necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, infrastructure,
> construction and maintenance.
>
The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they don't
even *own* them. The private energy operators are making choices, get
rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions standards is too
costly.
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>> Mentioning that they didn't even mention that the brown coal whose use
>> they were recommending was the very worst type of the stuff.
>
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 21:07 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vke14v$1pqun$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71610 |
Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm: > On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> alvey wrote: >>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> alvey wrote: <Snip> >>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* >>>>> in the employ of Murdoch, >>>> >>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >>> >>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was >>> a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. >>> Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? >> >> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not >> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not >> necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, >> infrastructure, construction and maintenance. >> > The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they don't > even *own* them. The private energy operators are making choices, get > rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions standards is too > costly. > > https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as well .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing the stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations. -- Daniel
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-24 21:40 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvhccFtcv7U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71614 |
On 24/12/2024 9:07 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
> Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm:
>> On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> alvey wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> alvey wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political
>>>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and*
>>>>>> in the employ of Murdoch,
>>>>>
>>>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said
>>>>
>>>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was
>>>> a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*.
>>>> Could you remind me of the facts that were listed?
>>>
>>> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not
>>> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not
>>> necessarily green considering the cost of establishment,
>>> infrastructure, construction and maintenance.
>>>
>> The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they
>> don't even *own* them. The private energy operators are making
>> choices, get rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions
>> standards is too costly.
>>
>> https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-
>> gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy
> For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as
> well .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power
> Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing the
> stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations.
Yeah. It's like, you sell a car, you can't expect to be able to tell the
new owner how, when and where he should be able to drive it.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-25 07:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2zavyfpbbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #71614 |
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:07:32 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm: >> On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> alvey wrote: >>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> alvey wrote: > > <Snip> > >>>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >>>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and* >>>>>> in the employ of Murdoch, >>>>> >>>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >>>> >>>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was >>>> a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. >>>> Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? >>> >>> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not >>> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not >>> necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, >>> infrastructure, construction and maintenance. >>> >> The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they don't >> even *own* them. The private energy operators are making choices, get >> rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions standards is too >> costly. >> >> https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy > For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as well > .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power > Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing the > stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations. In the case of AGL particularly, they actually plan to do that so they can sell more gas for power generation and should not be allowed to do that. And the coal fired power stations do not need to be upgraded or rebuilt.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-25 22:02 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vkgoo1$2ca9n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71629 |
Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:16 am: > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:07:32 +1100, Daniel70 > <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm: >>> On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>> alvey wrote: >>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> alvey wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>>>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >>>>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject >>>>>>> *and* in the employ of Murdoch, >>>>>> >>>>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >>>>> >>>>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall >>>>> was a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their >>>>> *opinion*. Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? >>>> >>>> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not >>>> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are >>>> not necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, >>>> infrastructure, construction and maintenance. >>>> >>> The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they >>> don't even *own* them. The private energy operators are making >>> choices, get rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions >>> standards is too costly. >>> https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy >>> > >> For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as well >> .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power >> Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing >> the stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations. > > In the case of AGL particularly, they actually plan to do that > so they can sell more gas for power generation and should > not be allowed to do that. And the coal fired power stations > do not need to be upgraded or rebuilt. Umm! I think you might find that many of the Victorian Coal Fired Power Stations HAVE been closed down. -- Daniel
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-26 04:52 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2zcjx1mpbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #71651 |
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:02:31 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:16 am: >> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:07:32 +1100, Daniel70 >> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm: >>>> On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> alvey wrote: >>> >>> <Snip> >>> >>>>>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political >>>>>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject >>>>>>>> *and* in the employ of Murdoch, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >>>>>> >>>>>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall >>>>>> was a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their >>>>>> *opinion*. Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? >>>>> >>>>> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not >>>>> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are >>>>> not necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, >>>>> infrastructure, construction and maintenance. >>>>> >>>> The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they >>>> don't even *own* them. The private energy operators are making >>>> choices, get rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions >>>> standards is too costly. >>>> https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy > > >>> For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as well >>> .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power >>> Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing >>> the stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations. >> In the case of AGL particularly, they actually plan to do that >> so they can sell more gas for power generation and should >> not be allowed to do that. And the coal fired power stations >> do not need to be upgraded or rebuilt. > Umm! I think you might find that many of the Victorian Coal Fired Power > Stations HAVE been closed down. Not owned by AGL
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-26 19:55 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vkj5le$2t8qu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71654 |
Rod Speed wrote on 26/12/24 4:52 am: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:02:31 +1100, Daniel70 > <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:16 am: >>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:07:32 +1100, Daniel70 >>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>> Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm: >>>>> On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>> >>>> <Snip> >>>> >>>>>>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career >>>>>>>>> political journo with zero experience or qualifications in the >>>>>>>>> subject *and* in the employ of Murdoch, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall >>>>>>> was a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their >>>>>>> *opinion*. Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? >>>>>> >>>>>> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had >>>>>> not junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions >>>>>> are not necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, >>>>>> infrastructure, construction and maintenance. >>>>>> >>>>> The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they >>>>> don't even *own* them. The private energy operators are making >>>>> choices, get rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions >>>>> standards is too costly. >>>>> https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy >>>>> >> > >>>> For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as well >>>> .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power >>>> Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing >>>> the stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations. > >>> In the case of AGL particularly, they actually plan to do that >>> so they can sell more gas for power generation and should >>> not be allowed to do that. And the coal fired power stations >>> do not need to be upgraded or rebuilt. > >> Umm! I think you might find that many of the Victorian Coal Fired >> Power Stations HAVE been closed down. > > Not owned by AGL "In the case of AGL particularly" .... so YOU, Roddles, were not refering EXPLICITLY to AGL's situation!! -- Daniel
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-26 20:19 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2zdqu21mbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #71682 |
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:55:17 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > Rod Speed wrote on 26/12/24 4:52 am: >> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:02:31 +1100, Daniel70 >> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> >>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/12/24 7:16 am: >>>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:07:32 +1100, Daniel70 >>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>>> Xeno wrote on 24/12/24 8:16 pm: >>>>>> On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>>>>>> alvey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> <Snip> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career >>>>>>>>>> political journo with zero experience or qualifications in the >>>>>>>>>> subject *and* in the employ of Murdoch, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall >>>>>>>> was a coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their >>>>>>>> *opinion*. Could you remind me of the facts that were listed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had >>>>>>> not junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions >>>>>>> are not necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, >>>>>>> infrastructure, construction and maintenance. >>>>>>> >>>>>> The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they >>>>>> don't even *own* them. The private energy operators are making >>>>>> choices, get rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions >>>>>> standards is too costly. >>>>>> https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy >>> > >>>>> For what it's worth that's my understanding of the situation as well >>>>> .... the various State Governments had sold their Coal fired Power >>>>> Stations and the 'new' owners read the writing on the wall, closing >>>>> the stations rather than upgrade/rebuild Coal fired Power Stations. >> >>>> In the case of AGL particularly, they actually plan to do that >>>> so they can sell more gas for power generation and should >>>> not be allowed to do that. And the coal fired power stations >>>> do not need to be upgraded or rebuilt. >> >>> Umm! I think you might find that many of the Victorian Coal Fired >>> Power Stations HAVE been closed down. >> Not owned by AGL > > "In the case of AGL particularly" .... so YOU, Roddles, were not > refering EXPLICITLY to AGL's situation!! The latrobe valley coal fired power stations which have been shut down are not owned by AGL, fuckwit
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