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| Started by | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100 |
| Last post | 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100 |
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The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 17:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 17:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 18:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 19:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 20:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 08:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 09:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 00:08 +0000
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 11:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 12:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:45 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:34 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 15:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:30 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:14 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 19:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 20:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 05:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:21 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:57 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:00 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 21:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:47 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:35 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 16:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:14 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:07 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 19:42 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 20:57 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:38 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-25 08:08 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:37 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 19:11 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:40 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:16 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 19:55 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:11 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:36 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 05:51 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 11:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:22 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 13:39 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:34 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 21:55 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Lindsay <lindsay00@nunnya.biz> - 2024-12-24 23:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:20 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:51 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 18:50 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:29 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 18:00 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 19:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:26 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-26 19:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 21:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 20:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 22:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 23:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-27 19:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 18:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:03 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 14:00 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 14:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:32 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 12:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 13:10 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:42 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:37 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-24 21:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:21 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 00:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 20:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 18:37 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:41 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 06:03 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:18 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 17:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 18:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100 |
| Subject | The real cost of net zero |
| Message-ID | <lsmhm0Fg400U1@mid.individual.net> |
Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) or watch the documentary .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 14:15 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsmq74Fh6lnU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71508 |
On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: > > Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award > winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor > > https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) > > or watch the documentary .. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc > **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? I have a better idea for you. Try READING this: https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/markets-moving-economic-costs-australias-climate-inaction/ The costs associated with achieving net zero are very high. The costs associated with failing to achieve net zero are MUCH higher. In fact, they are so high that the planet may not be able to pay the bill. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Noddy <me@home.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 17:43 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vk5o3b$3tt0q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71510 |
On 21/12/2024 2:15 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> >> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >> >> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >> >> or watch the documentary .. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >> > > **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? ROTFL :) Don't hold back Trev. Let him have it :) > I have a better idea for you. Try READING this: > > https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/markets-moving-economic- > costs-australias-climate-inaction/ > > The costs associated with achieving net zero are very high. > > The costs associated with failing to achieve net zero are MUCH higher. > In fact, they are so high that the planet may not be able to pay the bill. Don't worry. Your electric car will save us. -- -- -- Regards, Noddy. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 17:59 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsn7acFjbi2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71510 |
Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >> >> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >> >> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >> >> or watch the documentary .. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >> > > **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets. > > I have a better idea for you. Try READING this: > > https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/markets-moving-economic-costs-australias-climate-inaction/ > > > The costs associated with achieving net zero are very high. > > The costs associated with failing to achieve net zero are MUCH higher. > In fact, they are so high that the planet may not be able to pay the > bill. > -- Have a nice day!.. stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 18:48 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsna79FjkvnU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71513 |
On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award
>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>
>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>
>>
>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>
> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a King
> news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that example. deal
In *ancient times*? It happens today in *China*.
> with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon emissions, but how
> it's done, and setting realistic targets.
>
>>
>> I have a better idea for you. Try READING this:
>>
>> https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/markets-moving-economic-
>> costs-australias-climate-inaction/
>>
>> The costs associated with achieving net zero are very high.
>>
>> The costs associated with failing to achieve net zero are MUCH higher.
>> In fact, they are so high that the planet may not be able to pay the
>> bill.
>>
>
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 19:33 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsncpsFk4feU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71513 |
On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: > Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> >>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>> >>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>> >>> or watch the documentary .. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>> >> >> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? > > in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a King > news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that example. **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not a scientific source of note. deal > with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon emissions, but how > it's done, and setting realistic targets. **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as rapidly as possible and then we must aim to reverse net emissions. IOW: We must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere to bring it back to approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the human race will incur costs that are so high that we cannot ever pay for the costs. As has been said for at least 25 years: Acting sooner is cheaper than acting later. Should we fail to keep atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately 500ppm, then nothing humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe. The cost will exceed the GDP of the planet several times over. > >> >> I have a better idea for you. Try READING this: >> >> https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/markets-moving-economic- >> costs-australias-climate-inaction/ >> >> The costs associated with achieving net zero are very high. >> >> The costs associated with failing to achieve net zero are MUCH higher. >> In fact, they are so high that the planet may not be able to pay the >> bill. **Did you bother reading my cites? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 20:46 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsnh3gFkp3uU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71516 |
On 21/12/2024 7:33 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award
>>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>
>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>>
>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a
>> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that example.
>
> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for
> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not a
> scientific source of note.
>
> deal
>> with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon emissions, but how
>> it's done, and setting realistic targets.
>
> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as rapidly
> as possible and then we must aim to reverse net emissions. IOW: We must
> begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere to bring it back to
> approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the human race will incur costs
> that are so high that we cannot ever pay for the costs. As has been said
> for at least 25 years: Acting sooner is cheaper than acting later.
Try 40 years.
http://nap.nationalacademies.org/18714
At first the above report was scoffed at. Then it began to look real.
Now it looks like they might have been a tad optimistic, maybe they
didn't account for accelerative effects - like permafrost thawing.
> Should we fail to keep atmospheric CO2 levels below approximately
> 500ppm, then nothing humans can do will prevent an utter catastrophe.
> The cost will exceed the GDP of the planet several times over.
>
>>
>>>
>>> I have a better idea for you. Try READING this:
>>>
>>> https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/markets-moving-economic-
>>> costs-australias-climate-inaction/
>>>
>>> The costs associated with achieving net zero are very high.
>>>
>>> The costs associated with failing to achieve net zero are MUCH
>>> higher. In fact, they are so high that the planet may not be able to
>>> pay the bill.
>
> **Did you bother reading my cites?
>
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 08:09 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsop3uFquvuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71517 |
On 21/12/2024 8:46 pm, Xeno wrote: > On 21/12/2024 7:33 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 21/12/2024 5:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, award >>>>> winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor >>>>> >>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb) >>>>> >>>>> or watch the documentary .. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc >>>>> >>>> >>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron? >>> >>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a >>> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that example. >> >> **Nope. I am merely pointing out that Sky is a mouthpiece for >> denialists. NOTHING Sky reports can be trusted. Ever. Sky is not a >> scientific source of note. >> >> deal >>> with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon emissions, but how >>> it's done, and setting realistic targets. >> >> **The target is zero net emissions. Simple. It must be done as rapidly >> as possible and then we must aim to reverse net emissions. IOW: We >> must begin to remove CO2 from the atmosphere to bring it back to >> approximately 300ppm. Failure means that the human race will incur >> costs that are so high that we cannot ever pay for the costs. As has >> been said for at least 25 years: Acting sooner is cheaper than acting >> later. > > Try 40 years. **Thanks for the correction. > > http://nap.nationalacademies.org/18714 > > At first the above report was scoffed at. Then it began to look real. > Now it looks like they might have been a tad optimistic, maybe they > didn't account for accelerative effects - like permafrost thawing. **Indeed. Methane is a big problem. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Noddy <me@home.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 09:41 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vk7g7f$8gio$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71519 |
On 22/12/2024 8:09 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> At first the above report was scoffed at. Then it began to look real. >> Now it looks like they might have been a tad optimistic, maybe they >> didn't account for accelerative effects - like permafrost thawing. > > **Indeed. Methane is a big problem. So we kill all the animals and become vegan. Is that it? For fuck's sake, the planet is going to die, and we will along with it. There's nothing we can do about that, and the sooner you accept that reality the less stressed your life will be. -- -- -- Regards, Noddy. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 00:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lsp3kqFsl5gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71521 |
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote: > On 22/12/2024 8:09 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: > >>> At first the above report was scoffed at. Then it began to look real. >>> Now it looks like they might have been a tad optimistic, maybe they >>> didn't account for accelerative effects - like permafrost thawing. >> >> **Indeed. Methane is a big problem. > > So we kill all the animals and become vegan. Is that it? You really don’t have a clue, do you? > > For fuck's sake, the planet is going to die, and we will along with it. > There's nothing we can do about that, and the sooner you accept that > reality the less stressed your life will be. > The reality is that something can be done about climate change but it requires people to understand the science or, at the very least, believe the science. There was, 40 years ago, a window of opportunity to do something relatively cheaply. That window is closing fast and as the gap narrows, the costs of dealing with climate change rise inexorably. The effects can be seen all around, there is no longer any doubt. The problem seems to be that the world is inhabited by selfish lemmings like yourself who don’t give a rats about future generations, not even your own. ____ Xeno
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 11:39 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsp5d6FstmhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71521 |
On 22/12/2024 9:41 am, Noddy wrote: > On 22/12/2024 8:09 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: > >>> At first the above report was scoffed at. Then it began to look real. >>> Now it looks like they might have been a tad optimistic, maybe they >>> didn't account for accelerative effects - like permafrost thawing. >> >> **Indeed. Methane is a big problem. > > So we kill all the animals and become vegan. Is that it? **That was not we're discussing you boob. Permafrost thawing. Look it up. It is becoming a HUGE problem. > > For fuck's sake, the planet is going to die, and we will along with it. > There's nothing we can do about that, and the sooner you accept that > reality the less stressed your life will be. **We could a planet that can support human life for another approximately 2 billion years, IF we make some changes now. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Noddy <me@home.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 12:09 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vk7ors$a0tg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71523 |
On 22/12/2024 11:39 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 22/12/2024 9:41 am, Noddy wrote: ng. >>> >>> **Indeed. Methane is a big problem. >> >> So we kill all the animals and become vegan. Is that it? > > **That was not we're discussing you boob. Permafrost thawing. Look it > up. It is becoming a HUGE problem. Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do they not? >> >> For fuck's sake, the planet is going to die, and we will along with >> it. There's nothing we can do about that, and the sooner you accept >> that reality the less stressed your life will be. > > **We could a planet that can support human life for another > approximately 2 billion years, IF we make some changes now. Cite your evidence, and as you often claim, be *precise* :) -- -- -- Regards, Noddy.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 12:45 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsp9amFtdurU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71524 |
On 22/12/2024 12:09 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/12/2024 11:39 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/12/2024 9:41 am, Noddy wrote:
> ng.
>>>>
>>>> **Indeed. Methane is a big problem.
>>>
>>> So we kill all the animals and become vegan. Is that it?
>>
>> **That was not we're discussing you boob. Permafrost thawing. Look it
>> up. It is becoming a HUGE problem.
>
> Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do they
> not?
What does *becoming a huge problem* mean to you? Likely nothing to an
illiterate clown like yourself.
As permafrost thaws, the microbes within consume the frozen
organic matter and release carbon dioxide and methane into
the atmosphere. This *accelerates warming*, precipitating even
*more permafrost thaw* in an *irreversible cycle*.
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-permafrost
Permafrost warming is deemed an *accelerator* of climate change best
described as a doom loop.
>>>
>>> For fuck's sake, the planet is going to die, and we will along with
>>> it. There's nothing we can do about that, and the sooner you accept
>>> that reality the less stressed your life will be.
>>
>> **We could a planet that can support human life for another
>> approximately 2 billion years, IF we make some changes now.
>
> Cite your evidence, and as you often claim, be *precise* :)
How about some evidence of your trade qualifications - you first!
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 13:51 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lspd68Fu2e9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71524 |
On 22/12/2024 12:09 pm, Noddy wrote: > On 22/12/2024 11:39 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 22/12/2024 9:41 am, Noddy wrote: > ng. >>>> >>>> **Indeed. Methane is a big problem. >>> >>> So we kill all the animals and become vegan. Is that it? >> >> **That was not we're discussing you boob. Permafrost thawing. Look it >> up. It is becoming a HUGE problem. > > Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do they > not? **Perhaps you failed to read what was written. Here it is once more: Permafrost thawing. Look it up. It is becoming a HUGE problem. > >>> >>> For fuck's sake, the planet is going to die, and we will along with >>> it. There's nothing we can do about that, and the sooner you accept >>> that reality the less stressed your life will be. >> >> **We could a planet that can support human life for another >> approximately 2 billion years, IF we make some changes now. > > Cite your evidence, and as you often claim, be *precise* :) **Sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth It appears that I was entirely far too optimistic. We have around ONE billion years. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Noddy <me@home.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vk875g$fvb4$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71529 |
On 22/12/2024 1:51 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 22/12/2024 12:09 pm, Noddy wrote: >> Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do >> they not? > > **Perhaps you failed to read what was written. No, I read. I just wasn't ignoring others. -- -- -- Regards, Noddy.
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 16:22 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsplvtFosjU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71531 |
On 22/12/2024 4:13 pm, Noddy wrote: > On 22/12/2024 1:51 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 22/12/2024 12:09 pm, Noddy wrote: > >>> Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do >>> they not? >> >> **Perhaps you failed to read what was written. > > No, I read. I just wasn't ignoring others. **Then you really need to read about the melting permafrost. It is a REALLY big deal. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Noddy <me@home.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 17:15 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vk8aq0$ghd2$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71532 |
On 22/12/2024 4:22 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 22/12/2024 4:13 pm, Noddy wrote: >> On 22/12/2024 1:51 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 22/12/2024 12:09 pm, Noddy wrote: >> >>>> Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do >>>> they not? >>> >>> **Perhaps you failed to read what was written. >> >> No, I read. I just wasn't ignoring others. > > **Then you really need to read about the melting permafrost. It is a > REALLY big deal. No, I really don't. The planet is fucked, and there is no amount of electric car buyers like you who are going to save it. -- -- -- Regards, Noddy.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-22 16:42 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lspn6qF11miU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71531 |
On 22/12/2024 4:13 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 22/12/2024 1:51 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 22/12/2024 12:09 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Livestock represent a large portion of methane producing world, do
>>> they not?
>>
>> **Perhaps you failed to read what was written.
>
> No, I read. I just wasn't ignoring others.
>
You might have *read* but you certainly didn't *comprehend*!
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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| From | alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 07:34 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vka0m2$q6fk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71524 |
Noddy wrote: > On 22/12/2024 11:39 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> >> **We could a planet that can support human life for another >> approximately 2 billion years, IF we make some changes now. > > Cite your evidence, and as you often claim, be *precise* :) LOL! Fraudster, the eternal hypocrite. You gave up the right to demand anyone prove their claim years ago Fraudster.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 13:02 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsrumbFc06lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71539 |
On 23/12/2024 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 22/12/2024 11:39 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>>
>>> **We could a planet that can support human life for another
>>> approximately 2 billion years, IF we make some changes now.
>>
>> Cite your evidence, and as you often claim, be *precise* :)
>
> LOL!
> Fraudster, the eternal hypocrite.
>
> You gave up the right to demand anyone prove their claim years ago
> Fraudster.
Darren, the clown prince of aus.cars, has a *huge backlog* of
*obligations* to prove his myriad claims over decades past. The temerity
of the clown to actually demand others prove their claims, especially
when they had previously done so and subsequently prove their claims
again - as Trev did.
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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