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  [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-11 08:54 +0200
    Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-08-11 08:53 +0100
      Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-11 09:30 +0000
        Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-08-11 10:36 +0000
          Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 13:26 +0100
      Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-11 09:41 +0000
        Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 11:42 +0100
        Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 11:52 +0100
          Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 12:03 +0100
          Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-11 17:56 +0100
        Re: [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 10:01 +0200

#1148565 — [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival

Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe
Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.

I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY

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#1148571

On 11/08/2026 07:54, occam wrote:
> Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe
> Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.
> 
> I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
> will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY

It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

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#1148579

John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:

> On 11/08/2026 07:54, occam wrote:
> > Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe
> > Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.
> > 
> > I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
> > will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY
> 
> It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

I was amazed that Occam wrote that, and thought that even in darkest Luxemburg
he would know what Scotland's capital is called. I wondered if it was some sort
of obscure joke.
> 
> And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

It depends on who is pronouncing it. I say Edinbrə /'edɪnbrə/, where ə is a 
schwa, in ordinary conversation, or Edinbərə /'edɪnbərə/ if I want to be more 
formal. 


-- 
athel

Living in Marseilles for 39 years; mainly in England before that,
with long periods in Singapore, California, Chile and Canada 

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#1148585

athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

> John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:

> > On 11/08/2026 07:54, occam wrote:
> > > Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe
> > > Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.

> > > I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
> > > will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.

> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY
> > 
> > It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

> I was amazed that Occam wrote that, and thought that even in darkest
> Luxemburg he would know what Scotland's capital is called. I wondered
> if it was some sort of obscure joke.

> > And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

Where I live, it gets pronounced "Ay-din-boorg".  It took me some while
to stop trying to correct people.  If they're wrong pronouncing it thus,
then the entire English speaking world is even worse pronouncing
Nürnberg as "Nyoor-m-b'rg".

> It depends on who is pronouncing it. I say Edinbrə /'edɪnbrə/, where ə
> is a schwa, in ordinary conversation, or Edinbərə /'edɪnbərə/ if I want
> to be more formal. 


> -- 
> athel

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#1148590

Le 11/08/2026 à 11:36, Alan Mackenzie a écrit :
> 
> Where I live, it gets pronounced "Ay-din-boorg".  It took me some while
> to stop trying to correct people.  If they're wrong pronouncing it thus,
> then the entire English speaking world is even worse pronouncing
> Nürnberg as "Nyoor-m-b'rg".


I think we must be allowed to tailor names to our language, and extend 
the same privilege to foreigners. Should we pronounce 'Paris' the French 
way, say 'Deutschland' not 'Germany', call China 'Zhōngguó'?

Plaster of Paree? Perhaps not.

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#1148582

In article <ne02ntFcc8dU1@mid.individual.net>,
John Armstrong  <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
>
>And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

"Embra", with a long m.

-- Richard

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#1148586

 Ar an t-aonú lá déag de mí Lúnasa, scríobh Richard Tobin: 

 > In article <ne02ntFcc8dU1@mid.individual.net>,
 > John Armstrong  <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
 > 
 > >It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
 > >
 > >And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
 > 
 > "Embra", with a long m.

So, Eّmbra, with tashdid. (I’ve put the tashdid after the <E>, where
semantically it should be after the <m>; wonder is there a way to force Unicode
to put an RTL diacritic above a preceding LTR character.)

-- 
‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
(C. Moore)

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#1148588

Le 11/08/2026 à 10:41, Richard Tobin a écrit :
> John Armstrong  wrote:
>>
>> It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
>>
>> And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
> 
> "Embra", with a long m.


"Edinbrugh" for me - when it's not Auld Reekie.

Ah wis never any gud at the phonetic alphabet, but if you click on the 
little UK speaker here - like that:
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/edinburgh>

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#1148589

Le 11/08/2026 à 11:52, Hibou a écrit :
> Le 11/08/2026 à 10:41, Richard Tobin a écrit :
>> John Armstrong  wrote:
>>>
>>> It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
>>>
>>> And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
>>
>> "Embra", with a long m.
> 
> 
> "Edinbrugh" for me - when it's not Auld Reekie.
> 
> Ah wis never any gud at the phonetic alphabet, but if you click on the 
> little UK speaker here - like that:
> <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/edinburgh>
> 


Which reminds me of:

"But Edinburgh pays cruelly for her high seat in one of the vilest 
climates under heaven.  She is liable to be beaten upon by all the winds 
that blow, to be drenched with rain, to be buried in cold sea fogs out 
of the east, and powdered with the snow as it comes flying southward 
from the Highland hills.  The weather is raw and boisterous in winter, 
shifty and ungenial in summer, and a downright meteorological purgatory 
in the spring.  The delicate die early, and I, as a survivor, among 
bleak winds and plumping rain, have been sometimes tempted to envy them 
their fate. For all who love shelter and the blessings of the sun, who 
hate dark weather and perpetual tilting against squalls, there could 
scarcely be found a more unhomely and harassing place of residence" -
Stevenson, 'Edinburgh - Picturesque Notes', 1903.

Global warming has made it a little less bleak - and the authorities 
have reworked Waverley Steps, taming the boisterous wind that loved to 
play with skirts and kilts - people are soft these days! Come to think 
of it, the weather is still shifty and ungenial in 'summer' (♪Always 
look on the bright side of life.♪)

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#1148593

On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 11:52:51 +0100
Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> Le 11/08/2026 à 10:41, Richard Tobin a écrit :
> > John Armstrong  wrote:
> >>
> >> It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
> >>
> >> And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
> > 
> > "Embra", with a long m.
> 
> 
> "Edinbrugh" for me - when it's not Auld Reekie.
> 
> Ah wis never any gud at the phonetic alphabet, but if you click on the 
> little UK speaker here - like that:
> <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/edinburgh>
> 

It was easier when it was Caeredin! </antigael grudge from a few
centuries back>

-- 
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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#1148603

On 11/08/2026 11:41, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article <ne02ntFcc8dU1@mid.individual.net>,
> John Armstrong  <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
>>
>> And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
> 
> "Embra", with a long m.
> 
<smile>.  A long 'm' and a few 'r's.

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