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  Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
      Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-30 12:23 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:22 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0100
            Re: Super Intelligence Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-02 09:21 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-01 22:52 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
            Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
            Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-02 20:37 +1000
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700

#1151582 — Super Intelligence

Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151586

Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?

What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human 
irrationality?

-- 
guido wugi

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#1151587

On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:

>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?

Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.

> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> irrationality?

It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151608

Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
> On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> 
> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.
> 
> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > irrationality?
> 
> It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
> the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
> to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
> safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.


When Albert Einstein builted the atomic bomb he didn't have any
safeguards...


just drop the thing.


kill them all!


You see, what THEY won't tell you..
Albert Einstein didn't believe human beings had any souls.




> 
> --
> Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
> Newcastle, NSW

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151635

On 30/09/2026 10:37, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 30/09/26 18:14, guido wugi wrote:
>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> 
>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> Well, there's Dunning and Kruger.
> 
>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>> irrationality?
> 
> It's hard to tell, because at present we are faced with a combination of
> the two. There is an urgent need to equip AIs with something equivalent
> to the first two laws of robotics, but people who want to put in
> safeguards are being blocked by an incredibly stupid US president.
> 

Hmm, for once I find myself in agreement with the Drumph.

To be clear, he is not blocking safeguards. He is saying slowing done AI
development is not a good idea. He is correct in saying that, because if
the competition (China, Russia) does not conform to those guidelines,
they will end up with far more potent and aggressive AIs than those of
OpenAI and Anthropic.

Have you read Neal Stepheson's cyberpunk novels 'Snow Crash' and
'Cryptonomicon'? In there human agents don headgear and penetrate enemy
cyber-defences, a bit like (virtual) fighter pilots navigating a war
zone. Considering the novels were written in the 1990s - well before
current AI developments - they are quite visionary.

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#1151599

guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> irrationality?
> 

Artificial stupidity, IMHO.

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#1151629

On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:

> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>
> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > 
> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > irrationality?

> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.

What about REAL stupidity?

-- 
Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
		- Julius Caesar

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#1151643

On 01/10/2026 16:22, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>
>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>
>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>> irrationality?
> 
>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?
> 
Like this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx2z23xj555o

"Trump's AI rebrand causes 'unprecedented' demand for Slovenian website 
names"

-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1151667

Den 01.10.2026 kl. 21.07 skrev Sam Plusnet:
> On 01/10/2026 16:22, s|b wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
>>
>>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>>
>>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>>
>>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>>> irrationality?
>>
>>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
>>
>> What about REAL stupidity?
>>
> Like this?
> 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx2z23xj555o
> 
> "Trump's AI rebrand causes 'unprecedented' demand for Slovenian website 
> names"

Has there been a run on domains from Anguilla?

-- 
Bertel, Kolt, Danmark

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#1151644

s|b hat am 01.10.2026 um 17:22 geschrieben:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>
>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>
>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>> irrationality?
> 
>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?


Much less dangerous than artificial stupidity.
Most people recognise real stupidity, but a lot of people don't
recognise artificial stupidity or even think AI must be cleverer in ways
they cannot fathom.

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#1151663

s|b wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
> > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> >
> > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > >
> > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > > irrationality?
> 
> > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?

dat would be Kamala Harris

Kaka Mala.


> 
> --
> Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
>                 - Julius Caesar

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151688

On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:26:33 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> s|b wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> > 
> > > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> > >
> > > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > > >
> > > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > > > irrationality?
> > 
> > > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> > 
> > What about REAL stupidity?
 
> dat would be Kamala Harris

The woman that warned that Drumpf is a fascist and that he would put the
US in an economic depression if he were to be chosen again? That Kamala
Harris?
 
> Kaka Mala.

Thank you for this example of real stupidity.

-- 
Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
		- Julius Caesar

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#1151664

s|b wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
> > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> >
> > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > >
> > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > > irrationality?
> 
> > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?

The majority of physics teachers don't have a physics degree.



> 
> --
> Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
>                 - Julius Caesar

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151665

s|b wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
> 
> > guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> >
> > > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> > >
> > > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > > irrationality?
> 
> > Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> What about REAL stupidity?


Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?

dats real stupidity!

whos idea was dat?



> 
> --
> Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
>                 - Julius Caesar

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151677

Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:
> s|b wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
>>
>>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>>
>>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>>
>>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>>> irrationality?
>>
>>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
>>
>> What about REAL stupidity?
> 
> 
> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
> 
> dats real stupidity!
> 
> whos idea was dat?

That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An 
artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil 
engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal 
systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?

-- 
guido wugi

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#1151682

[Crank groups deleted]

On 02/10/26 19:37, wugi wrote:
> Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:

>> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
>>
>> dats real stupidity!
>>
>> whos idea was dat?
>
> That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An
> artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil
> engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal
> systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?

On the other hand, consider the following examples of intelligent design.

1. Our arms are exactly long enough to reach our genitals.

2. A well-formed turd is the same size and shape as an erect penis.

This gives some insight into the thinking of the designer.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151691

On 10/2/2026 5:37 PM, wugi wrote:
> Op 2/10/2026 om 7:30 schreef The Starmaker:
>> s|b wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 12:23:07 +0200, Silvano wrote:
>>>
>>>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>>>>
>>>>> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>>>>>> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>>>>>
>>>>> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>>>>> irrationality?
>>>
>>>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
>>>
>>> What about REAL stupidity?
>>
>>
>> Putting a peeing devise in the same place of a vagina?
>>
>> dats real stupidity!
>>
>> whos idea was dat?
> 
> That's the joke about God's profession as creator of personkind. An 
> artist? (the beauty of it all!) An architect? (monumental!) A civil 
> engineer of course: who else is capable of laying the waste disposal 
> systems through and along the leisure/pleasure areas?
> 

It is quite obvious that you are posting this from some other group than
sci.physics.relativity.  Because when we turn our pages in the nearest
book of Newtonian physics [1] -- please forgive me, I don't have one
handy -- to practical applications of /gravity/, we see that the planet
helps with both bowel movements and childbirth.  The latter of course
only if you're a woman, pregnant, and in labor [3].

Of course, western style toilets [4] do not make it easy to apply the
practicality of a graviton [5] to bowel movements, so it's best to stand
on the toilet seat, and then squat down in order to align the last end
of the rectal intestine perfectly perpendicular to the horizon, and let
the nearest graviton pull it down at its leisure rather than have to
strain [6] to get rid of some extraneous fecal matter.

People who have never had pleasurable bowel movements of course don't
know this trick, and will in error and confusion not understand the mind
of /the creator/ of humanity.  Simply because the are using western loos
wrong.  Please don't be that guy, and apply wisdom and experience to the
simple things in life, rather than post something utterly inane and id-
iotic on Usenet like a character from Black Adder [7].

Now, wugi can simply direct us to the nearest chapter in his or her You-
Tube station, where he or she explains the best way to have a bowel
movement like the character in Black Adder he or she is.

I mean, it /has/ to be funny, because nobody is intentionally that
stupid, right?


Best wishes, and happy reruns of Black Adder!


[1] An Englishman isn't a real [2] patriot unless he has a copy of New-
tonian physics on his bookshelf.

[2] For some value of real.  Perhaps /real/ value'd variable in Fortran
77?

[3] And hopefully not in a labor camp, but possibly a labor union;
though I don't recommend communism for obvious reasons.

[4] But not toiletry.  We are posting in alt.usage.english, of course.

[5] The members of sci.physics.relativity will have to comment on which
graviton, and whether that spelling is considered scientifically
correct.  My copy of a speling [sic] chequer [sic] does not have that
word in its vocabulary.

[6] But not a viral strain.  Not even on social media.

[7] People of rec.arts.tv will have to have something to imitate.  Isn't
rec.arts.tv about creating new shows for television?  So I presume all
posters of rec.arts.tv not only have their own YouTube station, but make
better jokes than the ones we enjoy in Black Adder!
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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#1151662

Silvano wrote:
> 
> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> >
> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > irrationality?
> >
> 
> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.

dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show,
or any tvee show with a laugh track.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#1151687

On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:22:45 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Silvano wrote:
>> 
>> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
>> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
>> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
>> >
>> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
>> > irrationality?

Have you considered 'negative' intelligence?

>> >
>> >
>> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.
> 
> dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show,
> or any tvee show with a laugh track.

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#1151607

guido wugi wrote:
> 
> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> irrationality?

It's not Ai, it's Si.


and the universe is irrationality.

> 
> --
> guido wugi

guena? leave the gun, take the cannoli.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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