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"40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed

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First post2024-11-16 05:48 +0000
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  "40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> - 2024-11-16 05:48 +0000
    Re: "40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-18 08:51 -0600
      Re: "40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed Michael Ejercito <MEjercit@HotMail.com> - 2024-11-22 08:07 -0800
    Re: "40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed D. Ray <d@ray> - 2024-11-22 07:22 +0000
      Re: "40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed hello there <no-spam-thank-you@not.home> - 2024-11-22 09:13 +0000

#49730 — "40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed

FromNefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
Date2024-11-16 05:48 +0000
Subject"40", or... 4? (Re: At Least 40 Killed
Message-ID<vh9bn9$pf6$3@pcls7.std.com>
How Hamas counts victims...

1) A rocket hit the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza.

2) Within minutes, the Gaza Health Ministry accused the
IDF, and claimed that "over 500" were killed.

3) It turned out that the hospital was hit by an Islamic
Jihad rocket.

4) The number of victims turned out to be about 50.

Do the Math. 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion

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#49743

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-11-18 08:51 -0600
Message-ID<vhflgd$1a2fq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#49730

"NefeshBarYochai" <void@invalid.noy> wrote in message 
news:vh9bn9$pf6$3@pcls7.std.com...
>
> How Hamas counts victims...

It doesn't. They were simply made into martyrs as needed to advance Hamas' 
desire to exterminate Jews due to their irrational hatred of Jews.

If they weren't Jews then Allah will give them their reward for being good 
Muslims willing to die for their cause, if they weren't then as infidels 
they aren't counted
 

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#49748

FromMichael Ejercito <MEjercit@HotMail.com>
Date2024-11-22 08:07 -0800
Message-ID<vhqa8h$185vo$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#49743
Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "NefeshBarYochai" <void@invalid.noy> wrote in message 
> news:vh9bn9$pf6$3@pcls7.std.com...
>>
>> How Hamas counts victims...
> 
> It doesn't. They were simply made into martyrs as needed to advance 
> Hamas' desire to exterminate Jews due to their irrational hatred of Jews.
> 
> If they weren't Jews then Allah will give them their reward for being 
> good Muslims willing to die for their cause, if they weren't then as 
> infidels they aren't counted
> 
> 
     Gaza made the same kind of choice Japan made on December 7, 1941.

    Gaza will soon face the same kind of choice Japan faced the evening 
of August 5, 1945!


  Michael

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#49746

FromD. Ray <d@ray>
Date2024-11-22 07:22 +0000
Message-ID<sBOiugbtclovhGuPYATJAnEihqCArILZ@news.usenet.farm>
In reply to#49730
NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote:
> 
> How Hamas counts victims...
> 
> 1) A rocket hit the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza.
> 
> 2) Within minutes, the Gaza Health Ministry accused the
> IDF, and claimed that "over 500" were killed.

From your own source: “International media initially reported that over 500
Palestinians were killed according to the Gaza Health Ministry, but this
was a mistranslation of a report that had mentioned over 500 total victims,
including injured.”

Nothing about “minutes.”

> 3) It turned out that the hospital was hit by an Islamic
> Jihad rocket.

No, no. Turned out Jews claimed it was hit by “Islamic Jihad rocket.”

From your own source: “In its investigation on 20 October 2023, Forensic
Architecture concluded the blast was the result of a munition fired from
the direction of Israel, and in subsequent visual investigations published
on 15 February 2024 and 17 October 2024, with the latter including situated
testimony from doctors, it cast further doubt on the errant rocket launch
theory.”

> 4) The number of victims turned out to be about 50.

From your own source: “The Anglican Diocese of Jerusalem, which manages the
hospital, reported 200 people killed, while the US assessed a figure
between 100 and 300.”

Even Americans don’t agree with you.

> Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ahli_Arab_Hospital_explosion

Do you really think no one is going to read it? Everyone is just going to
believe your lies?

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#49747

Fromhello there <no-spam-thank-you@not.home>
Date2024-11-22 09:13 +0000
Message-ID<vhpi0b$3b9$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#49746
In article <sBOiugbtclovhGuPYATJAnEihqCArILZ@news.usenet.farm>,
D. Ray  <d@ray> wrote:

>> 2) Within minutes, the Gaza Health Ministry accused the
>> IDF, and claimed that "over 500" were killed.

> From your own source: "International media initially reported that over 500
> Palestinians were killed according to the Gaza Health Ministry, but this
> was a mistranslation of a report that had mentioned over 500 total victims,
> including injured."

"The Gaza Health Ministry later reported a more precise figure of 471[sic]
killed and 342 wounded." 

This tells much about the "accuracy" of Gaza losses, as reported by
Hamas and other sources in Gaza. 

>> 3) It turned out that the hospital was hit by an Islamic
>> Jihad rocket.

> No, no. Turned out Jews claimed it was hit by “Islamic Jihad rocket.”

No, no, it was an Islamic Jihad rocket, which exploded in Gaza, as
have numerous other IJ and Hamas rockets.

"The Associated Press (AP) concluded on 20 October, from analyzing "more than a dozen videos from the 
moments before, during and after the hospital explosion, as well as satellite imagery and photos", that 
a rocket was "fired from within Palestinian territory"

"AP reported that its preliminary conclusion was supported by experts in open-source intelligence, 
geolocation, and rocketry, "who all agreed the most likely scenario was a rocket from within Gaza that 
veered off and came apart seconds before the explosion."

"Other factors cited by AP (sometimes attributed to identified experts) include the fact that Palestinian 
rockets would fail and fall inside Gaza in the past, the inconsistency of the damage and crater with 
Israeli air strikes (clarified further to be inconsistency with the use of "large bombs"), the 
inconsistency with other weapons such as artillery, mortars, car bombs or suicide vests, and the 
inability of Palestinians to produce evidence of Israeli munitions at Al-Ahli. AP quoted N.R. 
Jenzen-Jones as saying "the most likely explanation would be a failed militant rocket that was still 
full of highly flammable propellent"

etc. etc. etc.

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