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| First post | 2021-09-20 16:39 +0000 |
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Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-20 16:39 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-21 10:05 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-22 15:17 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-22 18:17 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:07 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-28 00:06 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-10-04 15:36 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-07 15:59 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 18:36 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 16:49 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 12:52 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 12:43 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:56 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:21 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy steve pope <spope384@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 20:18 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-09-27 00:01 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:09 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-09-28 05:34 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-10-04 15:41 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 16:52 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-07 16:03 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-09 15:13 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-12 08:39 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-14 15:51 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-14 22:17 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:46 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:36 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 13:18 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 06:20 -0800
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:07 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:04 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 12:46 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:15 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:06 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 20:16 -0800
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:32 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:23 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-29 22:48 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:52 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:44 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:42 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:06 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:05 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:07 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:40 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:04 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:07 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:50 -0700
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-03 15:22 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 16:58 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:37 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 13:00 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 06:34 -0800
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:52 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:17 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 20:08 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:47 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:38 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-12-08 15:04 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:14 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-16 10:58 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 07:06 -0800
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:30 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 10:58 -0800
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:59 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:56 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:36 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:22 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:52 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-29 12:29 -0800
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:35 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:21 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-12-08 14:54 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-13 15:38 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:08 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:54 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy Chickpea <chickpea@gmx.co.uk> - 2021-11-27 20:08 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:57 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy Chickpea <chickpea@gmx.co.uk> - 2022-01-28 10:17 +0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:25 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:50 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:47 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:41 -0500
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:08 +0000
Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-27 13:35 -0400
Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 12:53 +0000
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| From | Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-02 18:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ZtmdnaYSgoeTdBz8nZ2dnUU7-bnNnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #32497 |
On 11/1/2021 12:44, umar wrote: > On 2021-10-09, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Our lawn is artificial grass. It was good enough to fool a rabbit who >> tried to eat it and ended up confused. Achilles liked watching him. > > That reminds me of a YouTube video someone posted of "the world's > stupidest woodpecker". The bird is sitting on a diagonal strut on > someone's steel ham radio tower, and starts pecking at it. Plink- > plink-plink-plink-plink! My father said that was perfectly normal > woodpecker behavior; the bird was just making noise for its own sake. I > would almost say making a joyful noise unto the Lord, but we are all > agnostics in my family. > I wouldn't call it joyful but annoying. I had a woodpecker pecking on aluminum siding. Gah. -- Freyja the NurseWench http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org Twitter: @FreyjaRN @DuchessHonor Quack, damn you! -Jamie Hyneman, Mythbusters
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 17:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5vig5i-0h8.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32500 |
Freyja wrote: > On 11/1/2021 12:44, umar wrote: >> On 2021-10-09, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Our lawn is artificial grass. It was good enough to fool a rabbit who >>> tried to eat it and ended up confused. Achilles liked watching him. >> >> That reminds me of a YouTube video someone posted of "the world's >> stupidest woodpecker". The bird is sitting on a diagonal strut on >> someone's steel ham radio tower, and starts pecking at it. Plink- >> plink-plink-plink-plink! My father said that was perfectly normal >> woodpecker behavior; the bird was just making noise for its own sake. I >> would almost say making a joyful noise unto the Lord, but we are all >> agnostics in my family. >> > > I wouldn't call it joyful but annoying. I had a woodpecker pecking on > aluminum siding. Gah. haha! yep! :) songbird
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 17:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9uig5i-0h8.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32497 |
umar wrote: > On 2021-10-09, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Our lawn is artificial grass. It was good enough to fool a rabbit who >> tried to eat it and ended up confused. Achilles liked watching him. > > That reminds me of a YouTube video someone posted of "the world's > stupidest woodpecker". The bird is sitting on a diagonal strut on > someone's steel ham radio tower, and starts pecking at it. Plink- > plink-plink-plink-plink! My father said that was perfectly normal > woodpecker behavior; the bird was just making noise for its own sake. I > would almost say making a joyful noise unto the Lord, but we are all > agnostics in my family. woodpeckers sometimes plink on things to make noises to attract their mates and to deter the competition if they can make a bigger sound they'll win. sometimes they'll use hollow spaces on the walls/sides of houses to get that done. it can be annoying, but also amusing. songbird
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-16 14:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsp7epa.trq.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32508 |
On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > woodpeckers sometimes plink on things to make noises > to attract their mates and to deter the competition if > they can make a bigger sound they'll win. sometimes > they'll use hollow spaces on the walls/sides of houses > to get that done. it can be annoying, but also amusing. Quite so. I came home from work the other day to find a downy woodpecker on my front steps. That was cool. umar
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-01 19:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnso0gln.a88.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32486 |
On 2021-10-07, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > i think it would be very disheartening when so many people are not > taking very good care of themselves or following the recommendations > given. They are getting it all through the media, and the media are no longer trusted, mostly because they have become untrustworthy. As a broadcaster, I'm a part of that problem. I thought I could make a difference as a radio station owner. But, in fact, to stay in business you have to play the hits. And in news/talk, that means telling people what they want to hear, as opposed to what they need to know. Is it any wonder no one trusts the media? No, they don't understand that viruses evolve. The concept of biological evolution in general is not generally understood. When someone tells them they don't need to wear a mask, and two months later tells them differently, they see it as just another example of the media lying to them. They think it's like diet fads: eggs are bad for you; no, they're good for you; wine drinkers live longer; no, they don't. And so on. They remember the fable about the boy who cried "wolf", but don't remember the bit where there really was a wolf and no one believed him. > i've certainly become a lot less charitable myself during this > pandemic and the past election cycle sure didn't help either. i feel > like as a nation we've squandered trillions of dollars for education > and still ended up with a nation of people who don't even understand > basic math or reason let alone many other things Over the weekend, I was looking through one of my old course catalogs from my college days, looking at the descriptions of all the courses I could have taken but didn't. I could have taken courses in history from Doris Kearns Goodwin -- she was just Doris Kearns back then -- or in evolution from Stephen Jay Gould and Edward O. Wilson. And it was only $5,000 a year back then. It costs more than ten times that now. People go to college not to learn but to get a piece of paper. I had a conversation a few years ago with someone considering pursuing a master's degree at the [mumble] School of Education. I opined that I hoped the [mumble] School of Education's reputation was better these days than it had been in my youth, but zie said zie didn't care. Zie only wanted a master's degree, any master's degree, because that was the key that opened doors in the field of non-profit management. It's just another example of the subtle corruption I call "social entropy". Money is being spent and work being more to enrich the caretakers than to provide actual care. umar - but then don't > get me started... "Get off my lawn!" <-- joke, we don't > really have much of a lawn any more. :) > > > songbird
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 17:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <brig5i-0h8.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32496 |
umar wrote: ... > It's just another example of the subtle corruption I call "social > entropy". Money is being spent and work being more to enrich the > caretakers than to provide actual care. yes, IMO that is the wrong turn to take in any health-care situation. if it is for a profit then that no longer qualifies as care. then you look at the non-profit organisations and see how actual care they provide vs. how much they spend on overhead and perks. if we had just one overall system of health-care we could eliminate a lot of useless overhead and spending that isn't really needed to get actual care done. songbird
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-01 19:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnso0emk.a88.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32484 |
On 2021-10-05, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > On 10/4/2021 08:41, umar wrote: >> On 2021-09-28, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > The burnout is bad and getting worse. Out here, salaries are in six > digits, yet retention is still an issue. This damned pandemic came along at the worst possible time. It may still prove the USA's undoing, the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. The scale of the ugliness it seems to have revealed in people is shocking. The problem with living through a punctuation in history is that one rarely perceives all of what's going on except in the rear-view mirror. We shall see where this takes us. umar
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| From | Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-02 18:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0oudnaHUIsNldxz8nZ2dnUU7-fPNnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #32495 |
On 11/1/2021 12:07, umar wrote: > On 2021-10-05, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 10/4/2021 08:41, umar wrote: >>> On 2021-09-28, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > >> The burnout is bad and getting worse. Out here, salaries are in six >> digits, yet retention is still an issue. > > This damned pandemic came along at the worst possible time. It may still > prove the USA's undoing, the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's > back. The scale of the ugliness it seems to have revealed in people is > shocking. > > The problem with living through a punctuation in history is that one > rarely perceives all of what's going on except in the rear-view mirror. > We shall see where this takes us. Our time has seldom been scarier. Health care and even our democracy is at risk. -- Freyja the NurseWench http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org Twitter: @FreyjaRN @DuchessHonor My husband and I are either going to buy a dog or have a child; we can’t decide whether to ruin our carpet or ruin our lives. -Rita Rudner
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-03 15:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnso5aa0.h14.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32501 |
On 2021-11-03, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > Our time has seldom been scarier. Health care and even our democracy is > at risk. I recently read a book called _War and Peace and War: The Rise and Fall of Empires_ by Peter Turchin. He talks about empires going through "integrative" and "disintegrative" cycles throughout their histories. The United States is certainly an empire, and I think we are living through a "disintegrative" phase that began about the time Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon. Vietnam, Watergate, deregulation, deindustrialization, the increase in economic inequality, the loss of public confidence in government: these all suggest the old order is breaking down. But what will replace it? umar
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 16:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <hhig5i-0h8.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32502 |
umar wrote: ... > deregulation, deindustrialization, the increase in economic inequality, > the loss of public confidence in government: these all suggest the old > order is breaking down. But what will replace it? social media? just kidding... i don't know but i think world problems we currently have are not able to be solved by the current nations without some overall control structure which makes them responsible to agreements and rulings made by the international courts. as long as we maintain the status quo we're just wasting a huge amount of resources for weapons that should never be used. we could solve so many of the world's problems if we all worked together instead of apart, but there's no way that any country other than the very tiny ones want to give up their control to any world body. in space we cannot survive with crazy people given rights that we have here on this planet. things like guns and explosives very easily available. just won't work "Up There" so it will be very interesting to see if we can make any kind of transition to beings in space and still be able to survive the nutcases. i think the next 500yrs will be very interesting and i wish i could stick around long enough to see what happens next. :) songbird
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-16 14:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsp7ggj.trq.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32505 |
On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > umar wrote: > ... >> deregulation, deindustrialization, the increase in economic inequality, >> the loss of public confidence in government: these all suggest the old >> order is breaking down. But what will replace it? > social media? just kidding... Well, Facebook certainly seems to have more power influence on the media landscape than the FCC. > i don't know but i think world problems we currently have are not able > to be solved by the current nations without some overall control > structure which makes them responsible to agreements and rulings made > by the international courts. In other words, a universal empire. Can such a thing exist? I asked a Europhile friend the other day if she thought the EU could exist without the protective hegemony of the United States. > as long as we maintain the status quo we're just wasting a huge amount > of resources for weapons that should never be used. One of the courses I did take back in college was one on arms control and disarmament, taught by Albert Carnesale. He seemed to think that universal deterrence driven by the sure knowledge that in a nuclear war there can be no winner was the key to lasting peace. This was back in the 1970s, when the Cold War was still happening. > we could solve so many of the world's problems if we all worked > together instead of apart, but there's no way that any country other > than the very tiny ones want to give up their control to any world > body. It seems to me the problem is not so much governments but market forces. Capitalism is driving the climate change problem; the more governments try to impose rules and limits, the more the captains of finance cheat. An enormous amount of energy is being wasted "mining" bitcoin, which is literally nothing. It's the hottest commodity right now, and a whole economy is emerging around it that no government will ever be able to regulate. > in space we cannot survive with crazy people given rights that > we have here on this planet. things like guns and explosives > very easily available. just won't work "Up There" so it will be > very interesting to see if we can make any kind of transition to > beings in space and still be able to survive the nutcases. Space is fast becoming the playground of billionaires. The future may see the wealthy and privileged looking down upon the rest of us from mansions in the sky. > i think the next 500yrs will be very interesting and i wish i could > stick around long enough to see what happens next. :) That's my greatest regret about growing old. I won't be around to see the next chapter, to find out how it all comes out. umar
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-17 13:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <hisf6i-gp7.ln1@anthive.com> |
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umar wrote: > On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: >> umar wrote: >> ... >>> deregulation, deindustrialization, the increase in economic inequality, >>> the loss of public confidence in government: these all suggest the old >>> order is breaking down. But what will replace it? > >> social media? just kidding... > > Well, Facebook certainly seems to have more power influence on the media > landscape than the FCC. i don't really spend any time on FB or many other things but i do enjoy watching music reaction videos for some of my favorite groups. it is fun watching younger people discover some great music. >> i don't know but i think world problems we currently have are not able >> to be solved by the current nations without some overall control >> structure which makes them responsible to agreements and rulings made >> by the international courts. > > In other words, a universal empire. > > Can such a thing exist? > > I asked a Europhile friend the other day if she thought the EU could > exist without the protective hegemony of the United States. currently it looks like they're looking away for too many things so i don't have much actual faith in their willingness to take a stand. >> as long as we maintain the status quo we're just wasting a huge amount >> of resources for weapons that should never be used. > > One of the courses I did take back in college was one on arms control > and disarmament, taught by Albert Carnesale. He seemed to think that > universal deterrence driven by the sure knowledge that in a nuclear war > there can be no winner was the key to lasting peace. This was back in > the 1970s, when the Cold War was still happening. in recent years i don't think it has improved at all. :( >> we could solve so many of the world's problems if we all worked >> together instead of apart, but there's no way that any country other >> than the very tiny ones want to give up their control to any world >> body. > > It seems to me the problem is not so much governments but market forces. > Capitalism is driving the climate change problem; the more governments > try to impose rules and limits, the more the captains of finance cheat. > An enormous amount of energy is being wasted "mining" bitcoin, which is > literally nothing. It's the hottest commodity right now, and a whole > economy is emerging around it that no government will ever be able to > regulate. based upon how much energy is currently being used to mine and support these things i consider it an environmental crime and it should be made illegal and no banks should be allowed to use them or any other uses either. none of this makes any sense at all. >> in space we cannot survive with crazy people given rights that >> we have here on this planet. things like guns and explosives >> very easily available. just won't work "Up There" so it will be >> very interesting to see if we can make any kind of transition to >> beings in space and still be able to survive the nutcases. > > Space is fast becoming the playground of billionaires. The future may > see the wealthy and privileged looking down upon the rest of us from > mansions in the sky. likely they'll end up killing themselves off by doing something very stupid. it will take a very disciplined person to really understand what it will mean to live in space and from what i've seen most of the billionaires are not that. if instead they take up learning how to mine and build within a moon colony or a large enough asteroid they may have a better chance of carrying it off but so far i don't see encouraging signs that humanity has any idea what kind of a bind they're in so ... >> i think the next 500yrs will be very interesting and i wish i could >> stick around long enough to see what happens next. :) > > That's my greatest regret about growing old. I won't be around to see > the next chapter, to find out how it all comes out. as an avid reading of science fiction there are so many ways this can all go. :) songbird
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| From | Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-18 06:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <kuednUgB4uAN-Qv8nZ2dnUU7-cfNnZ2d@supernews.com> |
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On 11/17/2021 10:00, songbird wrote: > umar wrote: >> On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: >>> umar wrote: >>> ... >>>> deregulation, deindustrialization, the increase in economic inequality, >>>> the loss of public confidence in government: these all suggest the old >>>> order is breaking down. But what will replace it? >> >>> social media? just kidding... >> >> Well, Facebook certainly seems to have more power influence on the media >> landscape than the FCC. > > i don't really spend any time on FB or many other things > but i do enjoy watching music reaction videos for some of > my favorite groups. it is fun watching younger people > discover some great music. > > >>> i don't know but i think world problems we currently have are not able >>> to be solved by the current nations without some overall control >>> structure which makes them responsible to agreements and rulings made >>> by the international courts. >> >> In other words, a universal empire. >> >> Can such a thing exist? >> >> I asked a Europhile friend the other day if she thought the EU could >> exist without the protective hegemony of the United States. > > currently it looks like they're looking away for too > many things so i don't have much actual faith in their > willingness to take a stand. > > >>> as long as we maintain the status quo we're just wasting a huge amount >>> of resources for weapons that should never be used. >> >> One of the courses I did take back in college was one on arms control >> and disarmament, taught by Albert Carnesale. He seemed to think that >> universal deterrence driven by the sure knowledge that in a nuclear war >> there can be no winner was the key to lasting peace. This was back in >> the 1970s, when the Cold War was still happening. > > in recent years i don't think it has improved at all. :( > > >>> we could solve so many of the world's problems if we all worked >>> together instead of apart, but there's no way that any country other >>> than the very tiny ones want to give up their control to any world >>> body. >> >> It seems to me the problem is not so much governments but market forces. >> Capitalism is driving the climate change problem; the more governments >> try to impose rules and limits, the more the captains of finance cheat. >> An enormous amount of energy is being wasted "mining" bitcoin, which is >> literally nothing. It's the hottest commodity right now, and a whole >> economy is emerging around it that no government will ever be able to >> regulate. > > based upon how much energy is currently being used to > mine and support these things i consider it an environmental > crime and it should be made illegal and no banks should be > allowed to use them or any other uses either. none of this > makes any sense at all. > > >>> in space we cannot survive with crazy people given rights that >>> we have here on this planet. things like guns and explosives >>> very easily available. just won't work "Up There" so it will be >>> very interesting to see if we can make any kind of transition to >>> beings in space and still be able to survive the nutcases. >> >> Space is fast becoming the playground of billionaires. The future may >> see the wealthy and privileged looking down upon the rest of us from >> mansions in the sky. > > likely they'll end up killing themselves off by doing > something very stupid. it will take a very disciplined > person to really understand what it will mean to live in > space and from what i've seen most of the billionaires > are not that. if instead they take up learning how to > mine and build within a moon colony or a large enough > asteroid they may have a better chance of carrying it off > but so far i don't see encouraging signs that humanity > has any idea what kind of a bind they're in so ... Some do, but not enough. Certainly not enough of the right ones. >>> i think the next 500yrs will be very interesting and i wish i could >>> stick around long enough to see what happens next. :) >> >> That's my greatest regret about growing old. I won't be around to see >> the next chapter, to find out how it all comes out. > > as an avid reading of science fiction there are so many > ways this can all go. :) I agree. I'm an avid reader. -- Freyja the NurseWench http://freyjaw.dreamwidth.org Twitter: @FreyjaRN @DuchessHonor Get it right, you're a star. Get it half-right, you're a gas giant. -Joe Quigley
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-23 17:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnspqaj1.n45.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32520 |
On 2021-11-17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > i don't really spend any time on FB or many other things > but i do enjoy watching music reaction videos for some of > my favorite groups. it is fun watching younger people > discover some great music. In my 40+ years in the radio business, I've helped introduce a variety of music to myriad new listeners. It's always a joy to hear from them. (re: bitcoin) > based upon how much energy is currently being used to > mine and support these things i consider it an environmental > crime and it should be made illegal and no banks should be > allowed to use them or any other uses either. none of this > makes any sense at all. I couldn't agree more. It only makes sense to speculators, who are driving the whole cryptocurrency thing. But the sad thing is that in a world of finite resources, there and fewer and fewer opportunities to generate wealth, so investors have largely become speculators. Speculation strikes me as a zero-sum game; for someone to win, someone else has to lose. It's like casinos, which people in my part of the country support wholeheartedly. They don't actually generate any wealth; they just rob Peter to pay Paul. That brand new casino in Everett, just north of Boston, is little more than a black hole into which people pour their money. Yes, some of it does support some local jobs, and the state takes its pound of flesh, but at the end of the day Massachusetts is that much poorer, it seems to me. (billionaires in space) > likely they'll end up killing themselves off by doing > something very stupid. it will take a very disciplined > person to really understand what it will mean to live in > space and from what i've seen most of the billionaires > are not that. if instead they take up learning how to > mine and build within a moon colony or a large enough > asteroid they may have a better chance of carrying it off > but so far i don't see encouraging signs that humanity > has any idea what kind of a bind they're in so ... I think Musk, Bezos et al. imagine themselves watching the world implode from the safety of space-bourne mansions. They don't care what happens to the rest of us, I think. > as an avid reading of science fiction there are so many > ways this can all go. :) As an avid reader of history, I agree. umar
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-23 18:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0e907i-2r2.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32528 |
umar wrote: > On 2021-11-17, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > >> i don't really spend any time on FB or many other things >> but i do enjoy watching music reaction videos for some of >> my favorite groups. it is fun watching younger people >> discover some great music. > > In my 40+ years in the radio business, I've helped introduce a variety > of music to myriad new listeners. It's always a joy to hear from them. :) as a young listener of 12yrs old way back when it was the local Public Broadcasting Station that got me going on classical and then there was W3Soul out of Saginaw that i could listen to for that and then the pop station which i also listened to at times for rock. when i went up north we had our local college radio classical station that i would listen to which had the primary feed from Minnesota Public Radio and i also had the other alternative station that came from the attic of a residence hall and my roommate of the time was also a disk jockey for them and a Jazz drummer and a Punk Rock drummer. here i was a classical music and rock and roll and soul music loving kid and they put me in the same room with him and it turned out great because we both agreed that we didn't like REO Speedwagon (which the guys next to us played every night for a year - we even went as far as taking an REO album, heating it up with a lighter and impressing various things into the record and then when it cooled off we broke it up into pieces and made a mobile that we hung in our room. it was a small bit of resistance but we were happy about it :) ). i pretty much agree with the rest of your comments but i don't have time to write back on them for now. cheers and i hope you have a nice holiday if you get any time off. :) songbird
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 20:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsqacp7.eol.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32535 |
On 2021-11-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > here i was a classical music and rock and roll and soul music loving > kid and they put me in the same room with him and it turned out great > because we both agreed that we didn't like REO Speedwagon REO S**twagon, as a colleague at WBOS used to call it. DJs paid to play records over and over again on the radio tend to develop their own names for songs and artists. Purcell's opera "Dido and Aeneas", for instance, one WCRB colleague begain calling "Dildo and an Anus". Not on the air, though. > (which the guys next to us played every night for a year - we even > went as far as taking an REO album, heating it up with a lighter and > impressing various things into the record and then when it cooled off > we broke it up into pieces and made a mobile that we hung in our room. > it was a small bit of resistance but we were happy about it :) ). Some college radio colleagues made a very funny parody of "I Wanna Be Sedated" by The Ramones. Part of it went: "Get me to the whorehouse, and hit me with a chain; Hurry hurry hurry, I need to feel some pain." > cheers and i hope you have a nice holiday if you get any time > off. :) Thanks. I hope your holiday was a pleasant one. umar
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 12:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qm4i7i-mv7.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32554 |
umar wrote: > On 2021-11-23, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote: > >> here i was a classical music and rock and roll and soul music loving >> kid and they put me in the same room with him and it turned out great >> because we both agreed that we didn't like REO Speedwagon > > REO S**twagon, as a colleague at WBOS used to call it. > > DJs paid to play records over and over again on the radio tend to > develop their own names for songs and artists. Purcell's opera "Dido and > Aeneas", for instance, one WCRB colleague begain calling "Dildo and an > Anus". Not on the air, though. i'd never want to say that because i'd be afraid of saying it by accident on the air when tired or distracted. some things for me are certainly best left unsaid or even unthought. :) >> (which the guys next to us played every night for a year - we even >> went as far as taking an REO album, heating it up with a lighter and >> impressing various things into the record and then when it cooled off >> we broke it up into pieces and made a mobile that we hung in our room. >> it was a small bit of resistance but we were happy about it :) ). > > Some college radio colleagues made a very funny parody of "I Wanna Be > Sedated" by The Ramones. Part of it went: > > "Get me to the whorehouse, and hit me with a chain; > Hurry hurry hurry, I need to feel some pain." haha! >> cheers and i hope you have a nice holiday if you get any time >> off. :) > > Thanks. I hope your holiday was a pleasant one. it was ok. sometimes with family it works out well if i just fade into the background. i ended up watching tv (Home Alone and Home Alone 2) and that reminded me of how much i hated commercial tv. something i never do here as we have no cable tv or other service other than what comes over the air from any local stations that still care to transmit. Mom often ends up watching cartoons on PBS because they don't have things on she wants to watch otherwise, and she also gets DVDs through the library to watch. she's been rewatching the Fargo series the past week and that i listen to and have seen parts of it and at least i'll say this for them that they are interesting. i'm not really into anything gorey so i don't usuall watch but Mom can handle it - she's much tougher than i am. :) the best part is that we stayed overnight so i didn't have to drive home in the dark. songbird
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-12-06 14:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsqs82a.6qh.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32560 |
On 2021-11-30, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
(re: "Dildo and an Anus"
> i'd never want to say that because i'd be afraid of
> saying it by accident on the air when tired or distracted.
> some things for me are certainly best left unsaid or even
> unthought. :)
There few things more dangerous in radio than a person who doesn't know
that the microphone in front of him or her is live.
> it was ok. sometimes with family it works out well if i just
> fade into the background. i ended up watching tv (Home Alone
> and Home Alone 2) and that reminded me of how much i hated
> commercial tv. something i never do here as we have no cable
> tv or other service other than what comes over the air from
> any local stations that still care to transmit. Mom often ends
> up watching cartoons on PBS because they don't have things on
> she wants to watch otherwise,
You know what I've been watching in the way of TV lately? YouTube.
That's where I discovered an old Soviet cartoon called "Nu, pogodi"
("Well, just you wait!") that features two main characters called Zayats
("Hare") and Volk ("Wolf"). It's very funny and more sophisticated than
most cartoons of its ilk. It ranks with the best of the classic Warner
Brothers Looney Tunes, in my opinion. There is almost no dialogue, so
not knowing Russian isn't much of a handicap.
I sent a link to it to an old friend who was struggling with ALS, whom I
knew was a conoisseur of classic cartoons. Alas, he has since passed
away. There's that death thing again; sorry about that.
> she's been rewatching the Fargo series the past week and that i listen
> to and have seen parts of it and at least i'll say this for them that
> they are interesting. i'm not really into anything gorey so i don't
> usuall watch but Mom can handle it - she's much tougher than i am. :)
I'm not familiar with Fargo, although I've heard of it.
> the best part is that we stayed overnight so i didn't have
> to drive home in the dark.
Lately, driving in the dark, especially on unfamiliar roads, has started
bothing me more than it used to.
umar
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2021-12-08 15:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rmf78i-av5.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #32564 |
umar wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
> You know what I've been watching in the way of TV lately? YouTube.
i watch reaction videos to my favorite songs and also try
to find some new music that i can actually enjoy.
we watched the movie _Fargo_ the other night. i'd seen
it before a few times, but Mom had not seen it yet. it is
so nice to not have any commercial interruptions at all.
> That's where I discovered an old Soviet cartoon called "Nu, pogodi"
> ("Well, just you wait!") that features two main characters called Zayats
> ("Hare") and Volk ("Wolf"). It's very funny and more sophisticated than
> most cartoons of its ilk. It ranks with the best of the classic Warner
> Brothers Looney Tunes, in my opinion. There is almost no dialogue, so
> not knowing Russian isn't much of a handicap.
>
> I sent a link to it to an old friend who was struggling with ALS, whom I
> knew was a conoisseur of classic cartoons. Alas, he has since passed
> away. There's that death thing again; sorry about that.
we had a close friend die from that too. such a loss.
as you get older i don't consider it bad to feel the
losses and to cherish the memories, but you do have to
remember to pay attention to what you're doing now too.
don't want to walk into a light pole or step off a curb
into a puddle or something... :)
>> she's been rewatching the Fargo series the past week and that i listen
>> to and have seen parts of it and at least i'll say this for them that
>> they are interesting. i'm not really into anything gorey so i don't
>> usuall watch but Mom can handle it - she's much tougher than i am. :)
>
> I'm not familiar with Fargo, although I've heard of it.
the first three seasons are worth it if you like that
sort of thing. the writing is good the characters are
interesting. the 2nd and 3rd season are not as good as
the first. the fourth season we've not seen yet. it
didn't get very good reviews and while i tend to not even
read reviews i came across that when i was looking up
something else. the movie Fargo was good fun, especially
if you've visited or lived in the upper midwest for any
length of time. quite funny and dark humor which i can
enjoy. the violence and swearing i can always do without.
>> the best part is that we stayed overnight so i didn't have
>> to drive home in the dark.
>
> Lately, driving in the dark, especially on unfamiliar roads, has started
> bothing me more than it used to.
there's just too many deer around at night so i don't
want to risk it. between the two of us we have deer and
car collisions enough already. a simple body slam from
a deer running into the side of the car ran $4500 to fix
and that wasn't the worst one we've had so far.
songbird
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| From | umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-16 14:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsp7f5q.trq.866013149e@python.interpring.com> |
| In reply to | #32501 |
On 2021-11-03, Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> wrote: > Our time has seldom been scarier. Health care and even our democracy is > at risk. I read yesterday on the New York Times Web site that control of the U.S. House of Representatives has already been decided, by state legislators redrawing maps. No one has cast a vote; many candidates haven't even announced they're running; but we already know the winner. I was reading through an old course catalog from my college years the other day. The Government Department had a course listed on the future of the American republic. I wish I had taken that course. There are so many courses I wish I could go back in time and take. umar
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