Re: Busy, busy, busy

From	umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com>
Newsgroups	alt.polyamory
Subject	Re: Busy, busy, busy
Date	2021-11-16 14:37 +0000
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On 2021-11-05, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> umar wrote:
> ...
>> deregulation, deindustrialization, the increase in economic inequality, 
>> the loss of public confidence in government: these all suggest the old 
>> order is breaking down. But what will replace it?

>   social media?  just kidding...

Well, Facebook certainly seems to have more power influence on the media
landscape than the FCC.

> i don't know but i think world problems we currently have are not able 
> to be solved by the current nations without some overall control 
> structure which makes them responsible to agreements and rulings made 
> by the international courts.

In other words, a universal empire.

Can such a thing exist? 

I asked a Europhile friend the other day if she thought the EU could 
exist without the protective hegemony of the United States.

> as long as we maintain the status quo we're just wasting a huge amount 
> of resources for weapons that should never be used.

One of the courses I did take back in college was one on arms control 
and disarmament, taught by Albert Carnesale. He seemed to think that 
universal deterrence driven by the sure knowledge that in a nuclear war 
there can be no winner was the key to lasting peace. This was back in 
the 1970s, when the Cold War was still happening.

> we could solve so many of the world's problems if we all worked 
> together instead of apart, but there's no way that any country other 
> than the very tiny ones want to give up their control to any world 
> body.

It seems to me the problem is not so much governments but market forces. 
Capitalism is driving the climate change problem; the more governments 
try to impose rules and limits, the more the captains of finance cheat. 
An enormous amount of energy is being wasted "mining" bitcoin, which is 
literally nothing. It's the hottest commodity right now, and a whole 
economy is emerging around it that no government will ever be able to 
regulate.

> in space we cannot survive with crazy people given rights that
> we have here on this planet.  things like guns and explosives 
> very easily available.  just won't work "Up There" so it will be
> very interesting to see if we can make any kind of transition to
> beings in space and still be able to survive the nutcases.

Space is fast becoming the playground of billionaires. The future may 
see the wealthy and privileged looking down upon the rest of us from 
mansions in the sky.

> i think the next 500yrs will be very interesting and i wish i could 
> stick around long enough to see what happens next.  :)

That's my greatest regret about growing old. I won't be around to see 
the next chapter, to find out how it all comes out.

umar

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Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-20 16:39 +0000
  Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-21 10:05 -0400
    Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-22 15:17 +0000
      Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-22 18:17 -0400
        Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:07 +0000
          Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-28 00:06 -0400
            Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-10-04 15:36 +0000
              Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-07 15:59 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 18:36 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 16:49 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 12:52 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 12:43 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:56 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:21 -0500
    Re: Busy, busy, busy steve pope <spope384@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 20:18 -0700
      Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-09-27 00:01 -0700
        Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:09 +0000
          Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-09-28 05:34 -0700
            Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-10-04 15:41 +0000
              Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 16:52 -0700
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-07 16:03 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-12 08:39 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-10-14 15:51 -0700
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-14 22:17 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:46 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:36 -0700
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 13:18 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 06:20 -0800
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:07 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:04 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 12:46 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:15 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:06 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 20:16 -0800
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:32 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:23 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-29 22:48 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:52 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:44 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:42 -0700
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:06 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:05 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:07 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:40 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 17:04 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-01 19:07 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-02 18:50 -0700
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-03 15:22 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-05 16:58 -0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:37 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-17 13:00 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 06:34 -0800
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:52 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 18:17 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 20:08 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:47 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:38 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-12-08 15:04 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 14:14 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-16 10:58 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-18 07:06 -0800
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:30 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 10:58 -0800
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:59 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:56 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:36 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:22 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:52 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Freyja <FreyjaW@despam.yahoo.com> - 2021-11-29 12:29 -0800
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:35 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:21 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-12-08 14:54 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-13 15:38 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-12-06 14:08 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:54 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Chickpea <chickpea@gmx.co.uk> - 2021-11-27 20:08 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:57 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy Chickpea <chickpea@gmx.co.uk> - 2022-01-28 10:17 +0400
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-23 17:25 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-23 17:50 -0500
                Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-29 19:47 +0000
                Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-11-30 12:41 -0500
      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-09-27 19:08 +0000
      Re: Busy, busy, busy songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-09-27 13:35 -0400
      Re: Busy, busy, busy umar <866013149e@python.interpring.com> - 2021-11-16 12:53 +0000

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