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"Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 18:39 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-30 03:21 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 22:05 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-30 12:27 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 18:54 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-31 14:06 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 19:26 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:56 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 00:02 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-30 07:15 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 18:55 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-01-30 09:08 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 22:14 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-01-30 12:49 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-01-30 12:33 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 19:11 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:27 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 00:20 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-30 16:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-30 12:35 -0600
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-06 01:49 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-06 13:38 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-09 10:44 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-18 00:41 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 11:05 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-18 11:57 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-20 15:48 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-20 16:33 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 18:44 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:42 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 20:12 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-02-02 09:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 06:24 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-05 22:28 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-05 22:41 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-05 12:51 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-10 20:35 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-10 10:14 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:42 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:47 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:52 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 21:13 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-11 11:24 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 23:03 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-12 20:58 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-12 10:11 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-12 11:56 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:35 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-12 11:10 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:45 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-13 11:10 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:03 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-14 11:06 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-12 11:27 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:56 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-13 16:19 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:05 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-11 13:47 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 21:00 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 21:08 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-13 16:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-13 22:18 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 16:24 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-17 20:57 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:09 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:37 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 16:06 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-15 20:13 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-11 22:00 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-11 10:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 23:07 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-11 12:25 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-12 21:07 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-12 11:06 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 11:14 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:12 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-06 01:57 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-10 20:53 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:16 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dabe Vlohn <tar@tara.bar> - 2025-03-30 18:32 +0000
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 01:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m0iipeFj8o7U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80892 |
On 30/01/2025 18:35, Char Jackson wrote: > On 30 Jan 2025 16:31:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> > wrote: > >> Ignore the Tethering thing. Is is possible, but needlessly complex for >> what you want to accomplish. >> >> Instead, create a 'mobile hotspot' on your smartphone. It's normally >> in the Settings part for connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooths, Mobile >> (cellular), etc.. If you specify which brand/model and Android version >> you have, we probably can give more specific instructions. >> >> When setting up the mobile hotspot, you give it a name (like for your >> broadband) and password. >> >> Next, you can connect your Windows 11 'desktop' to that mobile >> hotspot, just like you would connect your laptop to a public hotspot, >> for example at Maccas. >> >> The result is that your Windows 11 'desktop' talks to your smartphone >> via Wi-Fi and your smartphone talks to the Internet using mobile data >>from its monthly (?) data bundle. >> >> FYI. I use that setup when we're traveling in Oz. (You're in Oz, >> aren't you?) > > This is the right advice. Do this. Some phone providers charge extra for > hotspot service, so check on that, but otherwise this is the way to go. > USB tethering can be an easy option too. It just depends on whether your mobile phone makes it easy to enable USB tethering. If it does, enable it, disconnect the PC from Wi-Fi (or any other connection) and connect your phone by USB to your PC and that should be all you need to do. It slowly charges your phone too. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 13:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vo2hga.kns.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80925 |
Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > On 30/01/2025 18:35, Char Jackson wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2025 16:31:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> > > wrote: > > > >> Ignore the Tethering thing. Is is possible, but needlessly complex for > >> what you want to accomplish. > >> > >> Instead, create a 'mobile hotspot' on your smartphone. It's normally > >> in the Settings part for connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooths, Mobile > >> (cellular), etc.. If you specify which brand/model and Android version > >> you have, we probably can give more specific instructions. > >> > >> When setting up the mobile hotspot, you give it a name (like for your > >> broadband) and password. > >> > >> Next, you can connect your Windows 11 'desktop' to that mobile > >> hotspot, just like you would connect your laptop to a public hotspot, > >> for example at Maccas. > >> > >> The result is that your Windows 11 'desktop' talks to your smartphone > >> via Wi-Fi and your smartphone talks to the Internet using mobile data > >>from its monthly (?) data bundle. > >> > >> FYI. I use that setup when we're traveling in Oz. (You're in Oz, > >> aren't you?) > > > > This is the right advice. Do this. Some phone providers charge extra for > > hotspot service, so check on that, but otherwise this is the way to go. > > > > USB tethering can be an easy option too. It just depends on whether your > mobile phone makes it easy to enable USB tethering. If it does, enable > it, disconnect the PC from Wi-Fi (or any other connection) and connect > your phone by USB to your PC and that should be all you need to do. It > slowly charges your phone too. As Paul mentioned, USB thethering does not only require setting things up at the phone end, but also at the computer end, so the computer can use the phone as a modem. Not rocket-science, but probably unfamiliar territory for most who have never done it. OTOH, with a mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot, one only needs do configure the hotspot on the phone and the computer end is similar to how it's used for any Wi-Fi connection, i.e. like the existing home Wi-Fi connection. Also setting up the phone end is similar to setting up the Wi-Fi access point of the broadband modem/router, so both ends should be familiar for the user. Besides that, a mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot can be used for multiple devices. USB tethering can only accomodate one device. For example during our last trip with four people, we had a laptop, four phones and three tablets, which could all share my 'big' mobile data bundle.
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| From | Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-09 10:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <voa0v3$3j2qo$1@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> |
| In reply to | #80927 |
On 2025-02-06, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: >> On 30/01/2025 18:35, Char Jackson wrote: >> > On 30 Jan 2025 16:31:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Ignore the Tethering thing. Is is possible, but needlessly complex for >> >> what you want to accomplish. >> >> >> >> Instead, create a 'mobile hotspot' on your smartphone. It's normally >> >> in the Settings part for connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooths, Mobile >> >> (cellular), etc.. If you specify which brand/model and Android version >> >> you have, we probably can give more specific instructions. >> >> >> >> When setting up the mobile hotspot, you give it a name (like for your >> >> broadband) and password. >> >> >> >> Next, you can connect your Windows 11 'desktop' to that mobile >> >> hotspot, just like you would connect your laptop to a public hotspot, >> >> for example at Maccas. >> >> >> >> The result is that your Windows 11 'desktop' talks to your smartphone >> >> via Wi-Fi and your smartphone talks to the Internet using mobile data >> >>from its monthly (?) data bundle. >> >> >> >> FYI. I use that setup when we're traveling in Oz. (You're in Oz, >> >> aren't you?) >> > >> > This is the right advice. Do this. Some phone providers charge extra for >> > hotspot service, so check on that, but otherwise this is the way to go. >> > >> >> USB tethering can be an easy option too. It just depends on whether your >> mobile phone makes it easy to enable USB tethering. If it does, enable >> it, disconnect the PC from Wi-Fi (or any other connection) and connect >> your phone by USB to your PC and that should be all you need to do. It >> slowly charges your phone too. > > As Paul mentioned, USB thethering does not only require setting things > up at the phone end, but also at the computer end, so the computer can > use the phone as a modem. Not rocket-science, but probably unfamiliar > territory for most who have never done it. It took me longer to unplug the enthernet cable than to set up USB tethering (fist time ever), the phone showed up as a USB ethernet device and "network manager" automated everything. Without the GUI network manager it would no doubt been considerable effort. -- Jasen. 🇺🇦 Слава Україні
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 00:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1i3amFl3n4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80927 |
On 06/02/2025 13:38, Frank Slootweg wrote: > As Paul mentioned, USB thethering does not only require setting things > up at the phone end, but also at the computer end, so the computer can > use the phone as a modem. Not rocket-science, but probably unfamiliar > territory for most who have never done it. Maybe with ancient out of date mobile devices and ancient out of date versions of Windows. But it just worked when I did it recently. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 11:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vp1t2l.qgc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81001 |
Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > On 06/02/2025 13:38, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > As Paul mentioned, USB thethering does not only require setting things > > up at the phone end, but also at the computer end, so the computer can > > use the phone as a modem. Not rocket-science, but probably unfamiliar > > territory for most who have never done it. > > Maybe with ancient out of date mobile devices and ancient out of date > versions of Windows. But it just worked when I did it recently. I hadn't any problem either, but then I've been doing this stuff since the early 2000's. But for someone who has never done it and is unfamilar with the subject matter, the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot route is much more natural, because, as I said, the Windows side is the same as setting up a connection in your home, to a public hotspot (I mentioned Maccas), etc..
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 11:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvr8td0.983.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #81008 |
On 2025-02-18, Frank Slootweg wrote: > [...] a public hotspot (I mentioned Maccas), etc.. Which always sounds good until you realize it's just McDonalds :( Curse the internet making the world a small place ;) -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-20 15:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1p15qFmd9tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81008 |
On 18/02/2025 11:05, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: >> On 06/02/2025 13:38, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> As Paul mentioned, USB thethering does not only require setting things >>> up at the phone end, but also at the computer end, so the computer can >>> use the phone as a modem. Not rocket-science, but probably unfamiliar >>> territory for most who have never done it. >> >> Maybe with ancient out of date mobile devices and ancient out of date >> versions of Windows. But it just worked when I did it recently. > > I hadn't any problem either, but then I've been doing this stuff since > the early 2000's. > > But for someone who has never done it and is unfamilar with the > subject matter, the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot route is much more natural, > because, as I said, the Windows side is the same as setting up a > connection in your home, to a public hotspot (I mentioned Maccas), etc.. There was literally nothing extra to do. It was easier than using hotspot because I didn't need to enter a password or anything. Turn on USB tethering on the mobile device when connected to the PC with USB and a Windows driver called "Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device" auto installs and you're ready to go. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-20 16:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vp7p1q.uv8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81021 |
Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > On 18/02/2025 11:05, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote: > >> On 06/02/2025 13:38, Frank Slootweg wrote: > >>> As Paul mentioned, USB thethering does not only require setting things > >>> up at the phone end, but also at the computer end, so the computer can > >>> use the phone as a modem. Not rocket-science, but probably unfamiliar > >>> territory for most who have never done it. > >> > >> Maybe with ancient out of date mobile devices and ancient out of date > >> versions of Windows. But it just worked when I did it recently. > > > > I hadn't any problem either, but then I've been doing this stuff since > > the early 2000's. > > > > But for someone who has never done it and is unfamilar with the > > subject matter, the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot route is much more natural, > > because, as I said, the Windows side is the same as setting up a > > connection in your home, to a public hotspot (I mentioned Maccas), etc.. > > There was literally nothing extra to do. It was easier than using > hotspot because I didn't need to enter a password or anything. > > Turn on USB tethering on the mobile device when connected to the PC with > USB and a Windows driver called "Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing > Device" auto installs and you're ready to go. Sigh! No offense, but you're preaching to the converted! For you, me and probably many others, this is natural and a piece of cake. For *others* who have never done any of this stuff, it's all Greek. If you don't believe me, come over to comp.mobile.android and see for yourself what kind of 'stupid' problems/questions some people are having/asking. EOD.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 18:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vnkjcb$723$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80891 |
On 31/01/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> This post is cross-posted to both alt.comp.os.windows-11 and >> alt.os.linux to increase my chances of getting an answer. >> >> Some of you may have read that my HP 6730b Dual-boot Win7/Linux Laptop >> has died/is dieing so I've resorted to this HP Win-11 Desktop that I am >> tring to get up and running. >> >> However, in updating the Win-11 OS and all the bits and pieces of this >> HP 24-cr0002a 24 All-in-One N100 8GB/256GB Desktop Computer, I've used >> up all my monthly Data allowance ..... which doesn't get renewed until >> about 20 Feb so, until then my download speed is limited to about 35kB/sec. >> >> However .... (as I was trying to drift off to sleep last night), I >> thought "What about if I use a PrePaid chip (like I use in my >> Mobilephone), could I connect via the chip in a USB dongle (after >> disabling my Wi-Fi)??" >> >> Back in the day (2000 - 2010'ish), I used to connect via a USB dongle so >> it must be possible .... >> >> But, then I thought .... If I can connect like this using a chip in a >> Dongle .... when I connect my Mobile Phone (via USB to9 recharge my >> phone) to my Computer can't I effectively use my mobile phone, using >> it's Data allocation, to do my Web Browsing?? >> >> Is this what 'they' call "Tethering"?? >> >> If so how, on this HP Win11 Computer, do I disable Wi-Fi and then enable >> USB Tethering?? > > Ignore the Tethering thing. Is is possible, but needlessly complex for > what you want to accomplish. > > Instead, create a 'mobile hotspot' on your smartphone. It's normally > in the Settings part for connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooths, Mobile > (cellular), etc.. If you specify which brand/model and Android version > you have, we probably can give more specific instructions. (I typed this up last night .... but my system wouldn't 'Send' it!! Here's hoping tonight ......) Aspera Jazz 2 Android version 9 Custom Build version AsperaJazz2_S005_17092019 Build number P00610 release-keys (whatever that might mean.) If it matters/helps Wi-Fi MAC address 02:00:00:00:00:00 > > When setting up the mobile hotspot, you give it a name (like for your > broadband) and password. > > Next, you can connect your Windows 11 'desktop' to that mobile > hotspot, just like you would connect your laptop to a public hotspot, > for example at Maccas. (Maccas ... YUCK!!) ;-P > > The result is that your Windows 11 'desktop' talks to your smartphone > via Wi-Fi and your smartphone talks to the Internet using mobile data > from its monthly (?) data bundle. > > FYI. I use that setup when we're traveling in Oz. (You're in Oz, > aren't you?) > Yeap, about a half hour north of Melbourne. ;-P And thanks for all this attention, everyone, for my little problem!! -- Daniel70
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 16:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vnlmdl.jbs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80898 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > On 31/01/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] > > Ignore the Tethering thing. Is is possible, but needlessly complex for > > what you want to accomplish. > > > > Instead, create a 'mobile hotspot' on your smartphone. It's normally > > in the Settings part for connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooths, Mobile > > (cellular), etc.. If you specify which brand/model and Android version > > you have, we probably can give more specific instructions. > > (I typed this up last night .... but my system wouldn't 'Send' it!! > Here's hoping tonight ......) > > Aspera Jazz 2 Android version 9 > Custom Build version AsperaJazz2_S005_17092019 > Build number P00610 release-keys (whatever that might mean.) > > If it matters/helps Wi-Fi MAC address 02:00:00:00:00:00 Have you found the place in Settings on your phone where it says 'Mobile Hotspot' or something similar? If so, configuration should be trivial (see my (quoted) comments below). If not, Android 9 is quite old, but I have used a mobile hotspot on an Android 4 smartphone (from Telstra! :-)), so your phone should have it. Android Settings are mostly brand/model and Android version dependent, so there is little point telling you how it's on my phone. At least one reader has an Android 9 phone, so perhaps he could post instruction for his phone (but very likely a different brand). > > When setting up the mobile hotspot, you give it a name (like for your > > broadband) and password. > > > > Next, you can connect your Windows 11 'desktop' to that mobile > > hotspot, just like you would connect your laptop to a public hotspot, > > for example at Maccas. > > (Maccas ... YUCK!!) ;-P Well, the *Wi-Fi* is great and the coffee is quite good. Didn't say anything about the 'food', did I!? :-) > > The result is that your Windows 11 'desktop' talks to your smartphone > > via Wi-Fi and your smartphone talks to the Internet using mobile data > > from its monthly (?) data bundle. > > > > FYI. I use that setup when we're traveling in Oz. (You're in Oz, > > aren't you?) > > > Yeap, about a half hour north of Melbourne. ;-P > > And thanks for all this attention, everyone, for my little problem!! You're very welcome.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-02 20:12 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80903 |
On 2/02/2025 3:42 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> On 31/01/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > [...] >>> Ignore the Tethering thing. Is is possible, but needlessly >>> complex for what you want to accomplish. >>> >>> Instead, create a 'mobile hotspot' on your smartphone. It's >>> normally in the Settings part for connections (Wi-Fi, Bluetooths, >>> Mobile (cellular), etc.. If you specify which brand/model and >>> Android version you have, we probably can give more specific >>> instructions. >> >> (I typed this up last night .... but my system wouldn't 'Send' >> it!! Here's hoping tonight ......) >> >> Aspera Jazz 2 Android version 9 Custom Build version >> AsperaJazz2_S005_17092019 Build number P00610 release-keys >> (whatever that might mean.) >> >> If it matters/helps Wi-Fi MAC address 02:00:00:00:00:00 > > Have you found the place in Settings on your phone where it says > 'Mobile Hotspot' or something similar? If so, configuration should > be trivial (see my (quoted) comments below). Under "Network & Internet", one option is "Hotspot & Tethering", I am offered 1. 'Wi-Fi hotspot' which says "Not sharing internet or content with other devices" 2. (Greyed out) 'USB Tethering' "Share phone's internet connection via USB" and the associated slide switch is also Greyed Out. 3. 'Bluetooth tethering' Share phone's Internet connection via Bluetooth .. and that slide switch is turned off but can be turned on. And the note at the bottom of that screen states "Use hotspot or tethering to provide internet to other devices through your mobile data connection. Apps can also create a hotspot to share content with nearby devices." So to this under-educated User this seems to be where I want to be ..... except I can't turn the Wi-Fi hotspot capability ON!! ;-( O.K., just as I was leaving that screen, I clicked on option 1, above, which brought up another screen where I could turn the Wi-Fi hotspot *ON* with the name "Aspera Jazz 2", Security WPA2 PSK, about a dozen dots under the "Hotspot Password" heading (Did I set that password some time ago?? No problem, tapping on that setting shows the Hotspot Password. YEAH!!) .... then under the "Advanced settings" ... 1. Turn off Hotspot automatically if no devices connected. 2. AP band 2.4GHz 3. Reset 00B 4. Max connections 6 users 5. Connected Users Zero (Greyed out) 6. Blocked users Zero (Greyed out) > > If not, Android 9 is quite old, but I have used a mobile hotspot on > an Android 4 smartphone (from Telstra! :-)), so your phone should > have it. > > Android Settings are mostly brand/model and Android version > dependent, so there is little point telling you how it's on my phone. > At least one reader has an Android 9 phone, so perhaps he could post > instruction for his phone (but very likely a different brand). > >>> When setting up the mobile hotspot, you give it a name (like for >>> your broadband) and password. >>> >>> Next, you can connect your Windows 11 'desktop' to that mobile >>> hotspot, just like you would connect your laptop to a public >>> hotspot, for example at Maccas. >> >> (Maccas ... YUCK!!) ;-P > > Well, the *Wi-Fi* is great and the coffee is quite good. Didn't say > anything about the 'food', did I!? :-) Only been to Macca's three times (count them ... three time) and all I learnt was that the Thick-Shakes are good!! >>> The result is that your Windows 11 'desktop' talks to your >>> smartphone via Wi-Fi and your smartphone talks to the Internet >>> using mobile data from its monthly (?) data bundle. >>> >>> FYI. I use that setup when we're traveling in Oz. (You're in Oz, >>> aren't you?) >>> >> Yeap, about a half hour north of Melbourne. ;-P >> >> And thanks for all this attention, everyone, for my little >> problem!! > > You're very welcome. > ;-) -- Daniel70
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| From | "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-02 09:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0p1kkx6e1xo5300g@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80905 |
On 02/02/2025 in message <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> Daniel70 wrote: [snipped] Don't keep us in suspense, did you get online with the hotspot :-) -- Jeff Gaines Dorset UK Remember, the Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-02 06:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vnnkm2$lman$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80907 |
On Sun, 2/2/2025 4:31 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote: > On 02/02/2025 in message <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> Daniel70 wrote: > > [snipped] > > Don't keep us in suspense, did you get online with the hotspot :-) > I don't think he is hardware-rich, and cutting over his desktop, if the desktop does not immediately work on the tether arrangement (over Wifi), then he won't be able to post back until he restored the cable for the original setup. The network interfaces on Windows, would use metrics, and some interface has a higher priority than some other interface, and if he leaves the NIC connected and the Wifi enabled, if one of them is not working, the other one should allow him to post at least. I've tested the Windows hotspot capability between two Windows desktops (with the downstream desktop disconnected from wired Ethernet), and it all worked OK. Initially, I couldn't figure out where the password was, but after a couple tries I spotted where the password had got to, and once the password was entered in the other machine, it was working. Paul
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 22:28 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vnvi0g$2c598$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80907 |
On 2/02/2025 8:31 pm, Jeff Gaines wrote: > On 02/02/2025 in message <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> Daniel70 wrote: > > [snipped] > > Don't keep us in suspense, did you get online with the hotspot :-) > Unfortunately NO, and what Connection I do have is becoming more and more 'iffy' .... no getting any response over the last couple of days. But I haven't given up hope!! ;-P -- Daniel70
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 22:41 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vnviqa$2ca9l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80917 |
On 5/02/2025 10:28 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > On 2/02/2025 8:31 pm, Jeff Gaines wrote: >> On 02/02/2025 in message <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> Daniel70 wrote: >> >> [snipped] >> >> Don't keep us in suspense, did you get online with the hotspot :-) >> > Unfortunately NO, and what Connection I do have is becoming more and > more 'iffy' .... no getting any response over the last couple of days. > > But I haven't given up hope!! ;-P .... and it's just struck me .....When I am unable to connect, rather than giving up and playing Microsoft Games to keep me amused .... I have copies of ALL my replies to your post in my "Sent" folder so I can gainfully make use of my time re-reading what you've posted that I have replied to. Guess what I might be doing tomorrow Afternoon?? ;-P -- Daniel70
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 12:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vnvmsf$2cvft$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80917 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 2/02/2025 8:31 pm, Jeff Gaines wrote: >> On 02/02/2025 in message <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> Daniel70 wrote: >> >> [snipped] >> >> Don't keep us in suspense, did you get online with the hotspot :-) >> > Unfortunately NO, and what Connection I do have is becoming more and > more 'iffy' .... no getting any response over the last couple of days. > > But I haven't given up hope!! ;-P So tell us why the hotspot failed. Does the hotspot device actually have an internet connection itself? Is it 2G/3G/4G/5G or some sort of point-to-point wireless? Have you followed the instructions for setting up the hotspot? What do you see from your PC when you try to connect to the hotspot? Is there any error message? -- Graham J
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 20:35 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <voch9n$1580t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80919 |
On 5/02/2025 11:51 pm, Graham J wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 2/02/2025 8:31 pm, Jeff Gaines wrote: >>> On 02/02/2025 in message <vnncu8$k9p2$1@dont-email.me> Daniel70 wrote: >>> >>> [snipped] >>> >>> Don't keep us in suspense, did you get online with the hotspot :-) >>> >> Unfortunately NO, and what Connection I do have is becoming more and >> more 'iffy' .... no getting any response over the last couple of days. >> >> But I haven't given up hope!! ;-P > > So tell us why the hotspot failed. Lack of knowledge/experience, I'm guessing!! > Does the hotspot device actually have an internet connection itself? Is > it 2G/3G/4G/5G or some sort of point-to-point wireless? I can turn on 4G access on the phone and use it for web-browsing. > Have you followed the instructions for setting up the hotspot? It seems I have failed, over and over again, to connect my Computer to the phones Wi-Fi. Indeed, now I find the phone will not Wi-Fi connect to the Computer directly. The phone's Wi-Fi connects to the Telco's Modem and then tries to use my (throttled) Telco account .... sure. But Wi-Fi connect to my mobile phone (which is sitting on the same table as the Computer), NOPE, don't want to do that. ;-( > What do you see from your PC when you try to connect to the hotspot? Is > there any error message? > The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. -- Daniel70
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 10:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vocjib$15ju2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80932 |
Daniel70 wrote: [snip] >> > The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals ..... > but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi connecting > on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you. "Wi-Fi connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, (probably one in a router)". What you want is "make phone function as a wireless access point". To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the terminology may vary from one phone to another. So exactly what make and model of phone do you have? Once you have enabled the hotspot you should see a new WiFi signal on your computer. The name of this WiFi signal will be something relating to the make and model of phone. -- Graham J
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-11 20:42 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vof62b$1ne5v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80934 |
On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: > > [snip] > >>> >> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals >> ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi >> connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. > > You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you. "Wi-Fi > connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, > (probably one in a router)". What you want is "make phone function as a > wireless access point". > > To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the > terminology may vary from one phone to another. So exactly what make > and model of phone do you have? Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi hotspot 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that mean anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is using the 2.4GHz AP Band > > Once you have enabled the hotspot you should see a new WiFi signal on > your computer. The name of this WiFi signal will be something relating > to the make and model of phone. .... and what do you know .... there is a 'Aspera Jazz 2' Hotspot device showing up on my Computers list of possible connections ..... so here I go!!!! It seems to suggest it has connected via 'Aspera JAZZ 2' and the Mobile phone is now showing 'Android system Tethering or Hotspot active 1 connected 0 blocked'. But ..... "Sending of the message failed. The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." So I've re-enabled the Telco Modem Wi-Fi and here we are!! (I hope!!) -- Daniel70
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-11 20:47 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vof6b8$1nfn6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80940 |
On 11/02/2025 8:42 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote: >> Daniel70 wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>> >>> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals >>> ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi >>> connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. >> >> You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you. "Wi-Fi >> connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, >> (probably one in a router)". What you want is "make phone function as >> a wireless access point". >> >> To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the >> terminology may vary from one phone to another. So exactly what make >> and model of phone do you have? > > Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi hotspot > 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that mean > anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is using the > 2.4GHz AP Band >> >> Once you have enabled the hotspot you should see a new WiFi signal on >> your computer. The name of this WiFi signal will be something >> relating to the make and model of phone. > > .... and what do you know .... there is a 'Aspera Jazz 2' Hotspot device > showing up on my Computers list of possible connections ..... so here I > go!!!! > > It seems to suggest it has connected via 'Aspera JAZZ 2' and the Mobile > phone is now showing 'Android system    Tethering or Hotspot active 1 > connected 0 blocked'. > > But ..... > "Sending of the message failed. > The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server > failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please > verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." > > So I've re-enabled the Telco Modem Wi-Fi and here we are!! (I hope!!) Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone to turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't actually turned ON the phone's mobile data function .... so, second time around ..... -- Daniel70
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