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| Started by | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| First post | 2025-02-17 00:39 +1100 |
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So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-17 00:39 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-16 15:06 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-16 15:45 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 19:37 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 19:43 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-18 12:01 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 09:41 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-18 20:32 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 14:51 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-18 21:59 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 09:59 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-16 16:43 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 16:21 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-16 11:33 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 20:00 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 19:56 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 11:17 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 18:02 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-21 12:02 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 22:55 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-21 14:16 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 00:23 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-25 14:38 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-25 14:30 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-21 11:07 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-21 15:19 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 16:04 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 18:15 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-26 07:08 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-26 15:29 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-27 19:00 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-27 03:52 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-27 11:24 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-27 13:57 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-27 09:53 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-27 15:31 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-27 13:27 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-27 19:00 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-27 20:37 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-28 19:38 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-28 11:13 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 02:36 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-02 00:51 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-02 18:59 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-04 23:32 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 22:13 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-03-01 22:27 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 00:41 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-02 01:06 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-03 10:22 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-04 19:26 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-27 14:05 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-28 20:06 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-28 11:24 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-28 14:50 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-16 10:53 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 14:04 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-16 21:52 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-17 19:40 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 20:15 -0600
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-17 21:05 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-18 02:31 -0600
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-18 13:29 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-18 20:29 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-20 21:09 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-20 13:27 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-20 17:46 -0800
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 18:08 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-21 12:11 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:40 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-21 19:30 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-22 04:02 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-22 19:54 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-02-25 12:28 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 03:46 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-21 22:37 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:58 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-25 14:19 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:36 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-21 08:34 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:31 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-22 03:53 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-16 10:54 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-16 17:01 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 09:57 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-16 10:34 -0800
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-17 08:52 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-17 14:49 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 20:17 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-21 10:35 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 12:41 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-02-26 18:53 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-26 20:14 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 02:39 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-21 14:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ouam8lx8mj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81031 |
On 2025-02-21 12:55, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 21/02/2025 10:02 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-02-21 08:02, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from
>>> the PVR's HD to the USB Drive, ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely
>>> remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive,
>>> File Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+)
>>> which started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no
>>> MPEG2 codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if
>>> we have a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>
>> Install VLC.
>>
> Maybe .... after I install Linux ... Dual boot!
It doesn't matter Linux or Windows. Just install VLC.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 00:23 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vpkg7v$207d2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81032 |
On 22/02/2025 12:16 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-02-21 12:55, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 21/02/2025 10:02 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-21 08:02, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program)
>>>> from the PVR's HD to the USB Drive, ejected the USB Drive (i.e.
>>>> 'Safely remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB
>>>> Drive, File Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000'
>>>> (116MB+) which started up Media Player ..... only to find out my
>>>> Win-11 has no MPEG2 codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability.
>>>> We're checking if we have a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>>
>>> Install VLC.
>>>
>> Maybe .... after I install Linux ... Dual boot!
>
> It doesn't matter Linux or Windows. Just install VLC.
>
Installed VLC in Win 11
https://get.videolan.org/vlc/3.0.21/win64/vlc-3.0.21-win64.exe#google_vignette
ran VLC i.e. got the pretty Orange/White Traffic cone, selected 'Media',
"Open File", located my file on the USB drive, clicked on it ...... and
the Traffic cone stayed put!!
What might I be doing wrong??
Note the file that was copied from PVR drive to USB drive was called
'000' .... note no three character file type on the name!!
--
Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-25 14:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2ot09lxs83.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81046 |
On 2025-02-25 14:23, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 12:16 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-02-21 12:55, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2025 10:02 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-21 08:02, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program)
>>>>> from the PVR's HD to the USB Drive, ejected the USB Drive (i.e.
>>>>> 'Safely remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB
>>>>> Drive, File Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled
>>>>> '000' (116MB+) which started up Media Player ..... only to find out
>>>>> my Win-11 has no MPEG2 codec/whatever ("Checking codec
>>>>> availability. We're checking if we have a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>>>
>>>> Install VLC.
>>>>
>>> Maybe .... after I install Linux ... Dual boot!
>>
>> It doesn't matter Linux or Windows. Just install VLC.
>>
> Installed VLC in Win 11
>
> https://get.videolan.org/vlc/3.0.21/win64/vlc-3.0.21-
> win64.exe#google_vignette
>
> ran VLC i.e. got the pretty Orange/White Traffic cone, selected 'Media',
> "Open File", located my file on the USB drive, clicked on it ...... and
> the Traffic cone stayed put!!
>
> What might I be doing wrong??
>
> Note the file that was copied from PVR drive to USB drive was called
> '000' .... note no three character file type on the name!!
On Linux it doesn't matter if there is no extension, I just tried. I
Windows, I can't say. Try with another video that you know that play,
and rename it with no extension, then try again with vlc.
If vlc doesn't play the file, chances are it is not an standard video
file or it is encrypted.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-25 14:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpl5on$2589s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81046 |
On Tue, 2/25/2025 8:23 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 12:16 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-02-21 12:55, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2025 10:02 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-21 08:02, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from the PVR's HD to the USB Drive, ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2 codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>>>
>>>> Install VLC.
>>>>
>>> Maybe .... after I install Linux ... Dual boot!
>>
>> It doesn't matter Linux or Windows. Just install VLC.
>>
> Installed VLC in Win 11
>
> https://get.videolan.org/vlc/3.0.21/win64/vlc-3.0.21-win64.exe#google_vignette
>
> ran VLC i.e. got the pretty Orange/White Traffic cone, selected 'Media', "Open File", located my file on the USB drive, clicked on it ...... and the Traffic cone stayed put!!
>
> What might I be doing wrong??
>
> Note the file that was copied from PVR drive to USB drive was called '000' .... note no three character file type on the name!!
Like VLC, you can have a play with FFMPEG and the three files it carries.
It is a command line program, but the syntax is not too hard for this task.
The download will cost you 54MB or so.
https://ffmpeg.org/download.html
"Windows EXE Files"
"Windows builds from gyan.dev"
https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/
ffmpeg-2025-02-20-git-bc1a3bfd2c-full_build.7z <=== scroll down a bit, static builds with no DLLs needed
Name: ffmpeg-2025-02-20-git-bc1a3bfd2c-full_build.7z
Size: 54,590,618 bytes (52 MiB)
SHA256: D63054733432866D1BD075C9EE0F0859A36391E8638ABC55C3933A143378EAFE
(matches the sha256 link on the page = d63054733432866d1bd075c9ee0f0859a36391e8638abc55c3933a143378eafe )
Now, Windows 11 has libarchive to extend the reach of .cab/.zip support.
Right click, do "open with" "Windows Explorer" will make
a pseudo-folder of the thing. Navigate to the bin\ in there,
and copy out these three files you see in File Explorer
ffmpeg.exe 145,039KB
ffplay.exe 144,891KB
ffprobe.exe 144,906KB
to another place on your hard drive. You don't need to download a copy
of 7ZIP, due to the inclusion of libarchive. Story may be different on Win10.
How would you use these programs ?
For this purpose, move the "000" file to the hard drive folder
where you put the three EXE files. In a command prompt window (you can
use Powershell window and type "cmd.exe" and run that), you can
navigate to your work folder.
cd /d C:\users\daniel\Downloads\FFMPEG
ffplay 000 # This works like a VLC would, relative path is used to find 000
ffprobe 000 # This attempts analysis of the file, the same way the ffplay
# command would attempt analysis.
Here, I will show the salient parts of the ffprobe of my 000 sample file (much output removed):
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '000':
...
Stream #0:0[0x1](eng): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 125 kb/s (default)
...
Stream #0:1[0x2](eng): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(progressive),
1280x720 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 4869 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 30k tbn (default)
That is a recognizable video track and audio track, so "ffplay" should be able to play it.
If it complains, you can also try:
.\ffplay 000
Help for the command is like this:
ffplay -h
And it includes info like this:
Getting help:
-h -- print basic options
-h long -- print more options
-h full -- print all options (including all format and codec specific options, very long)
-h type=thingy -- (if you know the topic by name already)
It is not a hex editor. And the output is a bit confusing, for example the line with gobs of this junk:
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 ...
Nevertheless, that line is important, when you're looking for "performance". When
converting video between formats, there are hardware accelerator options that only
work if they were included in the build. And that "big line of garbage" is there
to tell you what got included in the build. For example, on Linux, NVENC and NVDEC
are not included -- but, you can recompile from source and include them yourself.
Ubuntu has excellent package alignment, and rebuilding it should not be traumatic
(and including the flags for the things you want). I know, because I did it when
I wanted to compare the performance of Windows versus Linux (since the video card
does all the work, Linux was faster by 1% or so, there was a measurable diff).
In the case of the above file source, Gyan has already done this part for you,
and NVENC and NVDEC would work... if you had a midrange NVidia card. Some
low end cards, lack the video SIP so the acceleration is not available.
But none of these details are necessary, just to "play 000" kind of thing.
Nothing matters... but that it works. If it says anything about "I don't
see a video file", then the file was encrypted.
Paul
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-21 11:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vp9mpb$3c25o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81024 |
On 2025-02-21 07:02, Daniel70 wrote:
>
> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from
> the PVR's HD to the USB Drive, ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely
> remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File
> Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which
> started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2
> codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have
> a codec for this item."). ;-(
Try playing it with VLC (you can install it on Windows or Linux).
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-21 15:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vpa92h.fi0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81024 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
[...]
> This afternoon, I switched off my PVR (just to be sure!), inserted my
> USB drive into the appropriate socket on the PVR's back panel, turned on
> the PVR and went looking!!
>
> When I saw, in the PVR settings, the "Safely remove the USB drive."
> setting was still greyed out, I figured I'd done something wrong ... So
> PVR off, USB drive out, tried inserting it elsewhere (fail), re-inserted
> the USB Drive in the same socket .... and Success!!
>
> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from
> the PVR's HD to the USB Drive,
Good on you! I didn't expect the PVR to allow to copy videos from its
HDD to external media, but luckily I was wrong.
> ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely
> remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File
> Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which
> started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2
> codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have
> a codec for this item."). ;-(
Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows
11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't
already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.)
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-26 16:04 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vpm7d2$2e82s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81033 |
On 22/02/2025 2:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> [...]
>> This afternoon, I switched off my PVR (just to be sure!), inserted my
>> USB drive into the appropriate socket on the PVR's back panel, turned on
>> the PVR and went looking!!
>>
>> When I saw, in the PVR settings, the "Safely remove the USB drive."
>> setting was still greyed out, I figured I'd done something wrong ... So
>> PVR off, USB drive out, tried inserting it elsewhere (fail), re-inserted
>> the USB Drive in the same socket .... and Success!!
>>
>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from
>> the PVR's HD to the USB Drive,
>
> Good on you! I didn't expect the PVR to allow to copy videos from its
> HDD to external media, but luckily I was wrong.
>
>> ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely
>> remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File
>> Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which
>> started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2
>> codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have
>> a codec for this item."). ;-(
>
> Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows
> 11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't
> already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.)
>
Installed WMPL, pointed to the video on the USB stick ....
interestingly, WMPL listed the file as "000 0 seconds Unrated"!
Zweo Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play!
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-26 18:15 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vpmf2e$2f6qd$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81049 |
On 26/02/2025 4:04 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 2:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> This afternoon, I switched off my PVR (just to be sure!), inserted my
>>> USB drive into the appropriate socket on the PVR's back panel, turned on
>>> the PVR and went looking!!
>>>
>>> When I saw, in the PVR settings, the "Safely remove the USB drive."
>>> setting was still greyed out, I figured I'd done something wrong ... So
>>> PVR off, USB drive out, tried inserting it elsewhere (fail), re-inserted
>>> the USB Drive in the same socket .... and Success!!
>>>
>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from
>>> the PVR's HD to the USB Drive,
>>
>> Good on you! I didn't expect the PVR to allow to copy videos from its
>> HDD to external media, but luckily I was wrong.
>>
>>> ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely
>>> remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File
>>> Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which
>>> started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2
>>> codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have
>>> a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>
>> Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows
>> 11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't
>> already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.)
>>
> Installed WMPL, pointed to the video on the USB stick ....
> interestingly, WMPL listed the file as "000 0 seconds Unrated"!
>
> Zweo Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play!
Woops!! Should have read "Zero Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play!"
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-26 07:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpn07f$2i6ic$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81050 |
On Wed, 2/26/2025 2:15 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 26/02/2025 4:04 pm, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 22/02/2025 2:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> This afternoon, I switched off my PVR (just to be sure!), inserted my
>>>> USB drive into the appropriate socket on the PVR's back panel, turned on
>>>> the PVR and went looking!!
>>>>
>>>> When I saw, in the PVR settings, the "Safely remove the USB drive."
>>>> setting was still greyed out, I figured I'd done something wrong ... So
>>>> PVR off, USB drive out, tried inserting it elsewhere (fail), re-inserted
>>>> the USB Drive in the same socket .... and Success!!
>>>>
>>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from
>>>> the PVR's HD to the USB Drive,
>>>
>>> Good on you! I didn't expect the PVR to allow to copy videos from its
>>> HDD to external media, but luckily I was wrong.
>>>
>>>> ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely
>>>> remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File
>>>> Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which
>>>> started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2
>>>> codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have
>>>> a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>>
>>> Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows
>>> 11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't
>>> already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.)
>>>
>> Installed WMPL, pointed to the video on the USB stick .... interestingly, WMPL listed the file as "000 0 seconds Unrated"!
>>
>> Zweo Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play!
>
> Woops!! Should have read "Zero Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play!"
There are two programs specific to identifying video files. One
program hasn't been updated in more than ten years, while this one
is still supported.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/MediaInfo
Download Portable and other versions
Download MediaInfo 24.12 Portable Windows 64-bit 5MB <=== reasonably small
Win64 Win Portable Portable
When the program starts (from its portable folder), it will first put
up a preference dialog. You can turn off the File Explorer integration
if you want, as that isn't necessary. I had none of the preferences ticked
when I was finished.
Dropping a file onto the open pane of the program, looks like this.
This is a movie close to 3 hours, and it's the BUILD Conference from Microsoft.
It is a valid MP4 file with a sound track. That's what a proper movie detection
should look like.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/4xFPbJ06/Media-Info-Check-of-000.gif
That may help you decide whether it is encrypted or not, as
that program cannot decrypt content for you.
Paul
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-26 15:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vpnfgt.egk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81049 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > On 22/02/2025 2:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] > > Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows > > 11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't > > already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.) > > > Installed WMPL, pointed to the video on the USB stick .... > interestingly, WMPL listed the file as "000 0 seconds Unrated"! > > Zweo Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play! Huh!? "Installed WMPL,"? Wasn't 'Windows Media Player Legacy' already on your Windows 11 system? (It was/is on mine.) Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer, select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height, Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs. If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is probably your best bet.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 19:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vpp63d$31dna$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81052 |
On 27/02/2025 2:29 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> On 22/02/2025 2:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > [...] > >>> Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows >>> 11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't >>> already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.) >>> >> Installed WMPL, pointed to the video on the USB stick .... >> interestingly, WMPL listed the file as "000 0 seconds Unrated"! >> >> Zweo Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play! > > Huh!? "Installed WMPL,"? Wasn't 'Windows Media Player Legacy' already > on your Windows 11 system? (It was/is on mine.) > > Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer, > select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video > file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height, > Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs. General Details vid000.mp4 (name changed as suggested by others) Type of file: TS file (.ts) Open with: Media Player (Button "Change" which gives option to use Media Player, VLC Media Player, Windows Media Player Legacy, Firefox, Notepad, Word) Location: On a sub-directory of my USB Drive Size: 113MB (118,876,060 bytes) Size on Disk: 113MB (118,882,304 bytes) Created: Last Friday Modified: Last Friday Accessed: Yesterday > > If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is > probably your best bet. > -- Daniel70
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 03:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpp94j$31svr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81055 |
On Thu, 2/27/2025 3:00 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 27/02/2025 2:29 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>> On 22/02/2025 2:19 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> [...] >> >>>> Others have advised VLC, which is probably you best bet, but Windows >>>> 11 also has 'Windows Media Player Legacy', so try that, if you haven't >>>> already done so. (Just right click the file and select 'Open with'.) >>>> >>> Installed WMPL, pointed to the video on the USB stick .... >>> interestingly, WMPL listed the file as "000 0 seconds Unrated"! >>> >>> Zweo Seconds?? No wonder it doesn't play! >> >> Huh!? "Installed WMPL,"? Wasn't 'Windows Media Player Legacy' already >> on your Windows 11 system? (It was/is on mine.) >> >> Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer, >> select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video >> file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height, >> Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs. > > General Details > vid000.mp4 (name changed as suggested by others) > Type of file: TS file (.ts) > Open with: Media Player (Button "Change" which gives option to use Media Player, VLC Media Player, Windows Media Player Legacy, Firefox, Notepad, Word) > Location: On a sub-directory of my USB Drive > Size: 113MB (118,876,060 bytes) > Size on Disk: 113MB (118,882,304 bytes) > Created: Last Friday > Modified: Last Friday > Accessed: Yesterday > >> >> If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is >> probably your best bet. If it was Transport Stream, and the "Type of file" field says .ts then I would try an extension of .ts and feed it to VLC. https://recoverit.wondershare.com/video-recovery/what-is-ts-file.html vid000.ts # It's actually MPEG2, but who knows if this format has a header or not And this makes sense, because MPEG2 is how TV is transmitted over the airwaves, and the beauty of Digital Television design, is the possibility of just receiving the packets and writing them directly to the hard drive in the PVR. One thing I don't understand, is why nobody mentions ffplay. But if you have already downloaded VLC, just try that, as that will have most of what FFMPEG has. That should be on the order of 59 seconds worth, at a guess. ******* To calibrate on my end, I can try this. https://tsduck.io/streams/?name=australia-dttv https://tsduck.io/streams/australia-dttv/Nine.ts # 600KB/sec , 171.83MB , ~ 5 minute download Name: Nine.ts Size: 180,179,388 bytes (171 MiB) SHA256: 6CC445C0F04BB400A5B373D66D2FB0D132CC5E8CAE89378734E82B396F7CDA49 Unfortunately, it looks like cricket :-) But it plays in VLC. Sticking that in a hex editor, it does kinda look stream-like. Not a strong sense of a header in there, although you can (eventually) easily recognize there is some structure in there. For example, there are a few characters of Guide Data in the sample, presumably indicating what the next few programs on Nine would be. So *IF* you had the available bandwidth, and you were unable to play your vid000.ts file, then you can practice with that Nine.ts sample and see how a (known, unencrypted) Transport Stream plays. From what you've shown so far, there's a chance renaming as "vid000.ts" is all that is required for it to work. Paul
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 11:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <34r59lx11o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81056 |
On 2025-02-27 09:52, Paul wrote: ... > One thing I don't understand, is why nobody mentions ffplay. But if you have > already downloaded VLC, just try that, as that will have most of what > FFMPEG has. Unknown to me till you mentioned it. I have installed ffmpeg-3 package, and ffplay is not included. This has made me realize that my Linux distro has available ffmpeg-4, -6, and -7. I don't know what are the differences and whether I should change to a newer version or which. Perhaps the -6. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 13:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vppuh4.d0o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81056 |
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 2/27/2025 3:00 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > > On 27/02/2025 2:29 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] > >> Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer, > >> select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video > >> file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height, > >> Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs. > > > > General Details > > vid000.mp4 (name changed as suggested by others) > > Type of file: TS file (.ts) > > Open with: Media Player (Button "Change" which gives option to use Media Player, VLC Media Player, Windows Media Player Legacy, Firefox, Notepad, Word) > > Location: On a sub-directory of my USB Drive > > Size: 113MB (118,876,060 bytes) > > Size on Disk: 113MB (118,882,304 bytes) > > Created: Last Friday > > Modified: Last Friday > > Accessed: Yesterday > > > >> If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is > >> probably your best bet. > > If it was Transport Stream, and the "Type of file" field says .ts > then I would try an extension of .ts and feed it to VLC. > > https://recoverit.wondershare.com/video-recovery/what-is-ts-file.html I don't think it's an actual Transport Stream file. AFAIK, the 'Type of file:' field in Properties of a file just echoes the *extension*, not the *content*. For example, if I rename an actual MP4 file to .ts, Properties says "Type of file: TS file (.ts)", i.e. matching the extesion, not the actual content. The thumbnail in File Explorer changes (from showing the picture) to an Media Player icon. And when open the file, it plays just fine in Media Player. So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties. Of course I *hope* I'm wrong and that a rename to .ts will solve Daniel's problem. [...]
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 09:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vppu8j$35d6t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81058 |
On Thu, 2/27/2025 8:57 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2/27/2025 3:00 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 27/02/2025 2:29 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> [...]
>>>> Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer,
>>>> select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video
>>>> file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height,
>>>> Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs.
>>>
>>> General Details
>>> vid000.mp4 (name changed as suggested by others)
>>> Type of file: TS file (.ts)
>>> Open with: Media Player (Button "Change" which gives option to use Media Player, VLC Media Player, Windows Media Player Legacy, Firefox, Notepad, Word)
>>> Location: On a sub-directory of my USB Drive
>>> Size: 113MB (118,876,060 bytes)
>>> Size on Disk: 113MB (118,882,304 bytes)
>>> Created: Last Friday
>>> Modified: Last Friday
>>> Accessed: Yesterday
>>>
>>>> If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is
>>>> probably your best bet.
>>
>> If it was Transport Stream, and the "Type of file" field says .ts
>> then I would try an extension of .ts and feed it to VLC.
>>
>> https://recoverit.wondershare.com/video-recovery/what-is-ts-file.html
>
> I don't think it's an actual Transport Stream file. AFAIK, the 'Type
> of file:' field in Properties of a file just echoes the *extension*, not
> the *content*.
>
> For example, if I rename an actual MP4 file to .ts, Properties says
> "Type of file: TS file (.ts)", i.e. matching the extesion, not the
> actual content. The thumbnail in File Explorer changes (from showing the
> picture) to an Media Player icon. And when open the file, it plays just
> fine in Media Player.
>
> So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of
> file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties.
>
> Of course I *hope* I'm wrong and that a rename to .ts will solve
> Daniel's problem.
>
> [...]
>
Even when the file extension is .mp4, MediaInfo says it is MPEG-ts.
You have to stretch the window nice and wide, as the person who wrote the
program, wasn't too worried about formatting.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/bwBKGDcy/MPEG-ts-detection.gif
what's neat about this, is the Linux "file" command calls it "Data",
so the structure is irregular enough to not be detected. With no magic bytes,
and (usually) a 1024 byte sniffing range into the file, it would have needed
to read too much of the file to sync up to it. I'm not seeing 4CC codes in
MPEG2, and the "spectrum" when I used the hex editor, I'd never seen that
before. But I could tell instantly it wasn't encrypted, because there
was a bit of text in there that looked like Guide Data. Scrolling through it,
you can see the odd bit of padding added too.
Paul
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 15:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vpq2u9.11dg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81060 |
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 2/27/2025 8:57 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2/27/2025 3:00 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > >>> On 27/02/2025 2:29 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > [...] > >>>> Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer, > >>>> select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video > >>>> file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height, > >>>> Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs. > >>> > >>> General Details > >>> vid000.mp4 (name changed as suggested by others) > >>> Type of file: TS file (.ts) > >>> Open with: Media Player (Button "Change" which gives option to use Media Player, VLC Media Player, Windows Media Player Legacy, Firefox, Notepad, Word) > >>> Location: On a sub-directory of my USB Drive > >>> Size: 113MB (118,876,060 bytes) > >>> Size on Disk: 113MB (118,882,304 bytes) > >>> Created: Last Friday > >>> Modified: Last Friday > >>> Accessed: Yesterday > >>> > >>>> If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is > >>>> probably your best bet. > >> > >> If it was Transport Stream, and the "Type of file" field says .ts > >> then I would try an extension of .ts and feed it to VLC. > >> > >> https://recoverit.wondershare.com/video-recovery/what-is-ts-file.html > > > > I don't think it's an actual Transport Stream file. AFAIK, the 'Type > > of file:' field in Properties of a file just echoes the *extension*, not > > the *content*. > > > > For example, if I rename an actual MP4 file to .ts, Properties says > > "Type of file: TS file (.ts)", i.e. matching the extesion, not the > > actual content. The thumbnail in File Explorer changes (from showing the > > picture) to an Media Player icon. And when open the file, it plays just > > fine in Media Player. > > > > So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of > > file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties. > > > > Of course I *hope* I'm wrong and that a rename to .ts will solve > > Daniel's problem. > > > > [...] > > Even when the file extension is .mp4, MediaInfo says it is MPEG-ts. > You have to stretch the window nice and wide, as the person who wrote the > program, wasn't too worried about formatting. > > [Picture] > > https://i.postimg.cc/bwBKGDcy/MPEG-ts-detection.gif Thanks. So let's hope that File Explorer's Properties "Type of file:" is smarter than I thought it is, and is looking at the *content* of the file, not at the *extension*. Could you do a (File Explorer) 'Properties' on your 'Nine.mp4' file and report what it says under "Type of file:"? That would tell us one way or the other whether (FE) 'Properties' is smart or dumb. [...]
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-27 13:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpqaq5$37lmr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81061 |
On Thu, 2/27/2025 10:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >> On Thu, 2/27/2025 8:57 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2/27/2025 3:00 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> On 27/02/2025 2:29 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> [...] >>>>>> Anyway, have you tried to just right-click the file in File Explorer, >>>>>> select Properties and look at the 'Details' tab? For a normal video >>>>>> file, File Explorer will mention the Length, Frame width and height, >>>>>> Data rate, Total bitrate, Frame rate and Audio specs. >>>>> >>>>> General Details >>>>> vid000.mp4 (name changed as suggested by others) >>>>> Type of file: TS file (.ts) >>>>> Open with: Media Player (Button "Change" which gives option to use Media Player, VLC Media Player, Windows Media Player Legacy, Firefox, Notepad, Word) >>>>> Location: On a sub-directory of my USB Drive >>>>> Size: 113MB (118,876,060 bytes) >>>>> Size on Disk: 113MB (118,882,304 bytes) >>>>> Created: Last Friday >>>>> Modified: Last Friday >>>>> Accessed: Yesterday >>>>> >>>>>> If that does not help, the MediaInfo utility mentioned by Paul is >>>>>> probably your best bet. >>>> >>>> If it was Transport Stream, and the "Type of file" field says .ts >>>> then I would try an extension of .ts and feed it to VLC. >>>> >>>> https://recoverit.wondershare.com/video-recovery/what-is-ts-file.html >>> >>> I don't think it's an actual Transport Stream file. AFAIK, the 'Type >>> of file:' field in Properties of a file just echoes the *extension*, not >>> the *content*. >>> >>> For example, if I rename an actual MP4 file to .ts, Properties says >>> "Type of file: TS file (.ts)", i.e. matching the extesion, not the >>> actual content. The thumbnail in File Explorer changes (from showing the >>> picture) to an Media Player icon. And when open the file, it plays just >>> fine in Media Player. >>> >>> So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of >>> file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties. >>> >>> Of course I *hope* I'm wrong and that a rename to .ts will solve >>> Daniel's problem. >>> >>> [...] >> >> Even when the file extension is .mp4, MediaInfo says it is MPEG-ts. >> You have to stretch the window nice and wide, as the person who wrote the >> program, wasn't too worried about formatting. >> >> [Picture] >> >> https://i.postimg.cc/bwBKGDcy/MPEG-ts-detection.gif > > Thanks. So let's hope that File Explorer's Properties "Type of file:" > is smarter than I thought it is, and is looking at the *content* of the > file, not at the *extension*. > > Could you do a (File Explorer) 'Properties' on your 'Nine.mp4' file > and report what it says under "Type of file:"? That would tell us one > way or the other whether (FE) 'Properties' is smart or dumb. > > [...] > I tried it. I named my sample file from the Internet Nine.mp4 and File Explorer says File Type: MP4 That is because Windows "trusts" the file extension. If I remove the extension entirely, File Explorer says File Type: file so it hasn't a clue what it is then. The object-oriented launching of an application, based on the file type, in Windows, is centered around the declared extension. ******* However, when I change the extension back to the original (download) value Nine.ts now, suddenly, doing a Properties in File Explorer, gives this Video Length: 00:01:02 (Sixty two seconds) Frame width: 720 Frame height: 576 (Aussie PAL TV) Data rate: 5291 kbps (Must be on a multiplex, multiple streams on one 6MHz channel) Total bitrate: 5387 kbps Frame rate: 25.00 frames/second Audio Bit rate: 96 kbps Channels: 2 (stereo) Audio Sample Rate: 48.000 kHz And that means, Windows applied a TS specific filter, to collect that metadata about the video. Such metadata would also show up if you used Indexed Search and asked for "width=720" and then that item would show up in the list. When the file extension was MP4, it applied the MP4 filter which failed to find anything. And Windows doesn't have filters for everything, and even applying the correct extension might elicit no useful response at all. It's a "best effort" not a guarantee, and that's true of most multimedia topics anyway. Paul
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-27 19:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vpqg88.puc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81062 |
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 2/27/2025 10:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] > > Thanks. So let's hope that File Explorer's Properties "Type of file:" > > is smarter than I thought it is, and is looking at the *content* of the > > file, not at the *extension*. > > > > Could you do a (File Explorer) 'Properties' on your 'Nine.mp4' file > > and report what it says under "Type of file:"? That would tell us one > > way or the other whether (FE) 'Properties' is smart or dumb. > > > > [...] > > > > I tried it. I named my sample file from the Internet > > Nine.mp4 > > and File Explorer says > > File Type: MP4 > > That is because Windows "trusts" the file extension. > > If I remove the extension entirely, File Explorer says > > File Type: file > > so it hasn't a clue what it is then. The object-oriented > launching of an application, based on the file type, in Windows, > is centered around the declared extension. > > ******* > > However, when I change the extension back to the original (download) value > > Nine.ts > > now, suddenly, doing a Properties in File Explorer, gives this > > Video > > Length: 00:01:02 (Sixty two seconds) > Frame width: 720 > Frame height: 576 (Aussie PAL TV) > Data rate: 5291 kbps (Must be on a multiplex, multiple streams on one 6MHz channel) > Total bitrate: 5387 kbps > Frame rate: 25.00 frames/second > > Audio > > Bit rate: 96 kbps > Channels: 2 (stereo) > Audio Sample Rate: 48.000 kHz > > And that means, Windows applied a TS specific filter, to collect > that metadata about the video. Such metadata would also show > up if you used Indexed Search and asked for "width=720" > and then that item would show up in the list. > > When the file extension was MP4, it applied the MP4 filter > which failed to find anything. Thanks. So File Explorer is smart if a Transport Stream file is named .ts, but dumb if it's named .mp4. But that still does not explain: <me> > >>> So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of > >>> file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties. </me> Bottom line: We need more details/feedback from Daniel. > And Windows doesn't have filters for everything, and even > applying the correct extension might elicit no useful response > at all. It's a "best effort" not a guarantee, and that's > true of most multimedia topics anyway.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-27 20:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpr40q$3bqp4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81063 |
On Thu, 2/27/2025 2:00 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > <me> >>>>> So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of >>>>> file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties. > </me> > > Bottom line: We need more details/feedback from Daniel. Was the information from MediaInfo ? Paul
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-28 19:38 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vprsm6$3j8ec$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81063 |
On 28/02/2025 6:00 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >> On Thu, 2/27/2025 10:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > [...] >>> Thanks. So let's hope that File Explorer's Properties "Type of file:" >>> is smarter than I thought it is, and is looking at the *content* of the >>> file, not at the *extension*. >>> >>> Could you do a (File Explorer) 'Properties' on your 'Nine.mp4' file >>> and report what it says under "Type of file:"? That would tell us one >>> way or the other whether (FE) 'Properties' is smart or dumb. >>> >>> [...] >>> >> >> I tried it. I named my sample file from the Internet >> >> Nine.mp4 >> >> and File Explorer says >> >> File Type: MP4 >> >> That is because Windows "trusts" the file extension. >> >> If I remove the extension entirely, File Explorer says >> >> File Type: file >> >> so it hasn't a clue what it is then. The object-oriented >> launching of an application, based on the file type, in Windows, >> is centered around the declared extension. >> >> ******* >> >> However, when I change the extension back to the original (download) value >> >> Nine.ts >> >> now, suddenly, doing a Properties in File Explorer, gives this >> >> Video >> >> Length: 00:01:02 (Sixty two seconds) >> Frame width: 720 >> Frame height: 576 (Aussie PAL TV) >> Data rate: 5291 kbps (Must be on a multiplex, multiple streams on one 6MHz channel) >> Total bitrate: 5387 kbps >> Frame rate: 25.00 frames/second >> >> Audio >> >> Bit rate: 96 kbps >> Channels: 2 (stereo) >> Audio Sample Rate: 48.000 kHz >> >> And that means, Windows applied a TS specific filter, to collect >> that metadata about the video. Such metadata would also show >> up if you used Indexed Search and asked for "width=720" >> and then that item would show up in the list. >> >> When the file extension was MP4, it applied the MP4 filter >> which failed to find anything. > > Thanks. So File Explorer is smart if a Transport Stream file is named > .ts, but dumb if it's named .mp4. > > But that still does not explain: > > <me> >>>>> So I don't understand why Daniel's vid000.mp4 file would say "Type of >>>>> file: TS file (.ts)" in Properties. > </me> > > Bottom line: We need more details/feedback from Daniel. Sorry, Frank, what more information can I provide?? Just to get back to square ONE, when I finish recording Live T.V. onto the PVR tonight, I'll copy a new file onto the USB Drive. -- Daniel70
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