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USB server install problem

Started byMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
First post2019-01-30 08:19 -0800
Last post2019-01-30 12:03 -0800
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  USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 08:19 -0800
    Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 08:52 -0800
    Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 17:27 +0000
      Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 09:48 -0800
        Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 18:15 +0000
          Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 10:25 -0800
            Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 10:45 -0800
            Re: USB server install problem "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 14:55 -0600
              Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 13:03 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-30 15:47 -0600
                  Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 16:00 -0800
                    Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 16:20 -0800
                      Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 17:01 -0800
                        Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 07:00 -0800
                          Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 09:01 -0800
                            Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 11:04 -0800
                          Re: USB server install problem Lucifer <LuciferMorningstar@bigpond.com> - 2019-02-02 06:17 +1100
                            Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-01 11:47 -0800
                      Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 17:19 -0800
                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-02 08:55 +0100
                  Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-02 01:05 -0800
                    Re: USB server install problem Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-02 10:50 -0500
                      Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-02 08:39 -0800
                    Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-02 21:38 +0100
                      Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-03 14:01 -0800
                        Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-04 21:58 +0100
                          Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-04 15:33 -0800
                            Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-02-05 12:29 +0000
                              Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 09:34 -0800
                                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 20:27 +0100
                            Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 20:29 +0100
                              Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 13:04 -0800
                                Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 13:29 -0800
                                Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 23:44 +0100
                                  Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-05 23:47 +0100
                                    Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 15:58 -0800
                                  Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 16:16 -0800
                                    Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 16:57 -0800
                                      Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-05 17:25 -0800
                                        Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-06 20:17 +0100
            Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 21:44 +0000
              Re: USB server install problem Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-30 21:56 +0000
                Re: USB server install problem Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-30 22:04 +0000
            Re: USB server install problem Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2019-02-02 08:52 +0100
          Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 12:32 -0800
    Re: USB server install problem Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-01-30 12:03 -0800

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#53408

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-30 21:44 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq546lj.61d.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#53395
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Mike Easter wrote:
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>
>>> I wanted to play with the AH concept of using a caldev and samba server
>>> for a LAN without using a desktop distro to do so; using the Ub server
>>> v. instead.  I was going to enhance the Ub server with some lightweight
>>> WM such as openbox and GUI as described in one of my earlier links, then
>>> use Radicale for the caldev.
>> 
>> Is a VM out of the question?  Would be significantly easier than trying
>> to run the server off USB.  Not to mention, faster.
>> 
>[...]
>   - I also think that Ub or Deb should make a server edition that is 
> more like a desktop edition; with a lightweight DE/WM such as openbox 
> and lacking all of the typical installed programs, sorta like pclos 
> minime, except that comes with KDE and no apps instead of 'lightweight' DE
>

Unlike Windows, the vast makority of Linux servers are intended to run
ehtirely headless.  

Making a "server edition" that ships with a DE, however light, is such a
small usecase, we might as well call it zero.

Also, theres nothing stopping you from using a remote X Server, such as
your workstation.  IIRC, you need to enable X Forwarding in
/etc/sshd.conf ... but once you do (and restart sshd), you should be
good.  Just (re)connect using ssh -Y .
>


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#53411

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2019-01-30 21:56 +0000
Message-ID<87d0od6c7r.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#53408
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> I also think that Ub or Deb should make a server edition that is more
>> like a desktop edition; with a lightweight DE/WM such as openbox and
>> lacking all of the typical installed programs, sorta like pclos
>> minime, except that comes with KDE and no apps instead of
>> 'lightweight' DE
>
> Unlike Windows, the vast makority of Linux servers are intended to run
> ehtirely headless.  
>
> Making a "server edition" that ships with a DE, however light, is such a
> small usecase, we might as well call it zero.
>
> Also, theres nothing stopping you from using a remote X Server, such as
> your workstation.  IIRC, you need to enable X Forwarding in
> /etc/sshd.conf ... but once you do (and restart sshd), you should be
> good.  Just (re)connect using ssh -Y .

There is also nothing to stop you installing a desktop environment after
doing the initial install from a server ISO, or installing whatever
server packages you wanted after installing from a desktop ISO. The
distinctions here are rather arbitrary.

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#53412

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-30 22:04 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq547r0.61d.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#53411
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Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> I also think that Ub or Deb should make a server edition that is more
>>> like a desktop edition; with a lightweight DE/WM such as openbox and
>>> lacking all of the typical installed programs, sorta like pclos
>>> minime, except that comes with KDE and no apps instead of
>>> 'lightweight' DE
>>
>> Unlike Windows, the vast makority of Linux servers are intended to run
>> ehtirely headless.  
>>
>> Making a "server edition" that ships with a DE, however light, is such a
>> small usecase, we might as well call it zero.
>>
>> Also, theres nothing stopping you from using a remote X Server, such as
>> your workstation.  IIRC, you need to enable X Forwarding in
>> /etc/sshd.conf ... but once you do (and restart sshd), you should be
>> good.  Just (re)connect using ssh -Y .
>
> There is also nothing to stop you installing a desktop environment after
> doing the initial install from a server ISO, or installing whatever
> server packages you wanted after installing from a desktop ISO. The
> distinctions here are rather arbitrary.
>

Indeed, or using a "Desktop" distro for a server.

Ultimately, the distinction is "comes with a DE preinstalled" (or not).
And, by extension, burning CPU cycles on an unused DE (or not).


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#53491

FromPascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2019-02-02 08:52 +0100
Message-ID<q33i72$a3f$1@saria.nerim.net>
In reply to#53395
Le 30/01/2019 à 19:25, Mike Easter a écrit :
> 
>   - the USB or other, such as SD flash storage could alternatively be 
> used on such as a Pi, which I have lying around purchased on sale and 
> never unboxed.

Won't work. Not the same architectures (x86/ARM).

>   - I didn't think the business about installing an Ub server to USB 
> should be any more difficult than installing an Ub desktop to USB.

>   - I also think that Ub or Deb should make a server edition that is 
> more like a desktop edition;

Debian does not have desktop/server editions.

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#53404

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-01-30 12:32 -0800
Message-ID<gbefv4ForgiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53393
Dan Purgert wrote:
> Is a VM out of the question?

Another strategy for getting a Ub server installed to bootable USB is to 
install it to a VM and clone the VM to the USB and then make the USB 
bootable.

7 years old  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904557
  [SOLVED] Ubuntu in Virtual Box and now want to clone to bootable USB

Process Overview:
1. Main system is Windows (or whatever)
2. Create a VM using VirtualBox
3. Install Ubuntu 11.04 into a VirtualBox VM
4. Set up the installed ubuntu the way we want (settings/programs)
5. Prepare the USB Drive
6. Clone the ubuntu install to a USB drive
7. Make the USB drive bootable


-- 
Mike Easter

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#53400

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-01-30 12:03 -0800
Message-ID<gbee92FoefgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53386
Mike Easter wrote:
> how to make an installed version of a server on USB

This is a lengthy but educational article:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/16988/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-to-a-usb-key-without-using-startup-disk-creator#942312 


It starts 8 years ago, but there are recent contributions.

-- 
Mike Easter

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