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  They are faking used HD as new "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-16 15:33 +0100
    Re: They are faking used HD as new Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2025-03-18 20:42 +0800
      Re: They are faking used HD as new "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 14:26 +0100

#81122 — They are faking used HD as new

The information I have is from links in Spanish and German, so you have 
to use the automated translator.

      Note: you can obtain the FARM data (Field Accessible
      Reliability  Metrics) using smartctl:

        smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X]

<https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2025/01/detectan-estafa-hdd-tiendas-discos-duros-usados-como-nuevos/>

Seagate hard drive scam detected: some shops are selling used HDDs as 
new, with up to 50,000 hours of use!


<https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2025/03/discos-duros-hdd-seagate-usados-valores-farm/>

Used Seagate hard drives case escalates: counterfeiters are already 
altering FARM values


<https://www.heise.de/news/Gebrauchte-Seagate-Festplatten-als-Neuware-im-Umlauf-10254276.html>

Beware of fraud: Used hard drives sold as new


<https://www.computerbase.de/news/storage/auch-farm-werte-gefaelscht-betrug-bei-seagate-hdds-wird-immer-raffinierter.91694/>

FARM values ​​also falsified: Seagate HDD fraud is becoming increasingly 
sophisticated



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Carlos E.R. wrote:
> smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X]

You need smartctl 7.4 to read FARM.

an English story:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-hard-drive-controversy-persists-as-scammers-discover-methods-to-alter-reliability-metrics

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#81135

On 2025-03-18 13:42, Woozy Song wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X]
> 
> You need smartctl 7.4 to read FARM.

I have 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530

FARM is news to me. On this desktop machine I have four Seagate disks, 
two of them don't have FARM, and the other two do. But on one of those, 
the time is useless on some parameters:


		Power on Hours: 17325
		Spindle Power on Hours: 577863279123
		Head Flight Hours: 577863279093


> an English story:

Ah, good :-)

> https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-hard-drive- 
> controversy-persists-as-scammers-discover-methods-to-alter-reliability- 
> metrics

By Kunal Khullar published March 8, 2025


And this other, older:

<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/german-seagate-customers-say-their-new-hard-drives-were-actually-used-resold-hdds-reportedly-used-for-tens-of-thousands-of-hours>

German Seagate customers say their 'new' hard drives were actually used 
– resold HDDs reportedly used for tens of thousands of hours


«The initial retailer eventually stopped selling the 14TB and 16TB HDDs 
at some point and even canceled an order that Heise.de had anonymously 
placed.»

Why would "Chinese Chia mining farms" use disks that large?




And links to further info:

<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagates-fraudulent-hard-drives-scandal-deepens-as-clues-point-at-chinese-chia-mining-farms>

Fraudulent hard drive scandal deepens at Seagate: Clues point at Chinese 
Chia mining farms

By Anton Shilov published February 8, 2025

«Buyers concerned about their purchases can verify the true HDD usage 
history. SMART parameters are sometimes unreliable, but the true 
operational time can be checked using FARM values. To do this, one has 
to use the Smartmontools application version 7.4 or higher (via command: 
smartctl -l farm /dev/sda) or Seagate's Seatools software.»


But now it has been found that FARM values were altered.


<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-responds-to-fraudulent-hard-drives-scandal-says-resellers-should-only-buy-from-certified-partners>

Seagate responds to fraudulent hard drives scandal, says resellers 
should only buy from certified partners

By Matthew Connatser published January 30, 2025








-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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