Re: They are faking used HD as new

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: They are faking used HD as new
Date	2025-03-18 14:26 +0100
Message-ID	<et8oalxpgr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References	<g24jalx3nv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vrbpn8$2gtek$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2025-03-18 13:42, Woozy Song wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X]
> 
> You need smartctl 7.4 to read FARM.

I have 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530

FARM is news to me. On this desktop machine I have four Seagate disks, 
two of them don't have FARM, and the other two do. But on one of those, 
the time is useless on some parameters:

		Power on Hours: 17325
		Spindle Power on Hours: 577863279123
		Head Flight Hours: 577863279093

> an English story:

Ah, good :-)

> https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-hard-drive- 
> controversy-persists-as-scammers-discover-methods-to-alter-reliability- 
> metrics

By Kunal Khullar published March 8, 2025

And this other, older:

<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/german-seagate-customers-say-their-new-hard-drives-were-actually-used-resold-hdds-reportedly-used-for-tens-of-thousands-of-hours>

German Seagate customers say their 'new' hard drives were actually used 
– resold HDDs reportedly used for tens of thousands of hours

«The initial retailer eventually stopped selling the 14TB and 16TB HDDs 
at some point and even canceled an order that Heise.de had anonymously 
placed.»

Why would "Chinese Chia mining farms" use disks that large?

And links to further info:

<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagates-fraudulent-hard-drives-scandal-deepens-as-clues-point-at-chinese-chia-mining-farms>

Fraudulent hard drive scandal deepens at Seagate: Clues point at Chinese 
Chia mining farms

By Anton Shilov published February 8, 2025

«Buyers concerned about their purchases can verify the true HDD usage 
history. SMART parameters are sometimes unreliable, but the true 
operational time can be checked using FARM values. To do this, one has 
to use the Smartmontools application version 7.4 or higher (via command: 
smartctl -l farm /dev/sda) or Seagate's Seatools software.»

But now it has been found that FARM values were altered.

<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-responds-to-fraudulent-hard-drives-scandal-says-resellers-should-only-buy-from-certified-partners>

Seagate responds to fraudulent hard drives scandal, says resellers 
should only buy from certified partners

By Matthew Connatser published January 30, 2025

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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They are faking used HD as new "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-16 15:33 +0100
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    Re: They are faking used HD as new "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 14:26 +0100

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