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  I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 01:47 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> - 2019-06-22 04:31 -0700
      Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:04 +0200
      Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 12:43 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 12:50 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 07:21 -0500
        Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 15:29 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 10:16 -0500
      Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 13:45 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:00 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 15:54 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:08 +0000
              Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 11:37 -0500
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 23:21 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-23 14:44 +0000
                  Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-23 19:44 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-23 17:47 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 16:07 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:33 +0000
              Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:46 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 18:18 +0000
                  Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 20:13 +0000
                    Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-23 11:03 +0000
                      Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-23 11:15 +0000
                        Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 10:05 -0500
                          Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-23 15:33 +0000
                            Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-23 15:34 +0000
                          Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-23 15:53 +0000
                            Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-24 00:58 +0000
                              Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-23 21:33 -0400
                                Re: I Have Found My Editor William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-24 07:35 +0000
                                  Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:45 +0200
                                  Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 07:45 -0400
                                  Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 08:34 -0400
                                  Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-24 14:37 +0200
                                    Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 15:09 +0200
                                    Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 09:46 -0400
                                      Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 12:26 -0400
                                        Re: I Have Found My Editor vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-06-24 18:03 +0000
                                        Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:00 +0200
                                          Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 17:25 -0400
                                            Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-25 16:42 +0000
                                        Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 01:07 +0200
                                          Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-25 04:15 -0400
                                            Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 13:23 +0200
                              Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 04:28 +0000
                      Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-23 14:03 +0000
                        Re: I Have Found My Editor Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-23 16:43 +0200
                      Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-23 17:54 +0200
                      Re: I Have Found My Editor Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:18 +0000
                        Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-24 10:30 +0000
                          Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 13:53 +0200
                            Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-24 12:49 +0000
                              Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 15:14 +0200
                              Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 09:52 -0400
                                Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-24 14:12 +0000
                                  Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 10:43 -0400
                  Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 23:27 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:30 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 14:59 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 14:54 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-22 20:51 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:17 +0200
      Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:50 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 15:55 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 17:43 +0200
    Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-22 20:54 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 03:17 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-23 07:24 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 16:46 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-24 00:56 +0000
              Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 04:26 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-23 10:56 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor azigni <azigni@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-25 21:33 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-26 01:32 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 12:53 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 11:48 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-26 07:39 -0500
              Re: I Have Found My Editor fr314159@gmail.com - 2019-06-26 05:51 -0700
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 18:13 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 13:54 +0200
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-26 12:16 +0000
              Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 15:42 +0200
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 18:18 +0200
              Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 21:07 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 12:26 +0000

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#57099 — I Have Found My Editor

Being a long time user of the Cooledit text editor I long
realized that, in spite of its minor shortcomings, there
was nothing better.

But now I've found something that actually surpasses Cooledit:
Geany.

Geany is now my text editor of choice, although I still would
like to see Cooledit brought up to "modern" standards.

Other text editors are either dinosaurs that refuse to die,
like vim, emacs, joe, etc., or that are entangled in the bloated
nonsense of a DE, like gedit.

However, Geany and Cooledit achieve that perfect balance of modernism
and minimalism while yet expressing comprehensive power.

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#57111

Yes, I've been using geany for quite a while.
I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain columns.
I don't know any FOSS editor that does so.

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#57115

On 22/06/2019 13.31, Pedro Valdez wrote:
> Yes, I've been using geany for quite a while.
> I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain columns.
> I don't know any FOSS editor that does so.
> 

There are editors that do search/replace inside a block; thus you can
select the column in a block, on those editors that support that.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#57117

Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> wrote:
> Yes, I've been using geany for quite a while.
> I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain columns.
> I don't know any FOSS editor that does so.

Vim can do it.
After visually selecting a block:
:%s/\%Vxxx/yyy/g
There is a vim plugin for geany that may or may not work.

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#57118

owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> wrote:
>> Yes, I've been using geany for quite a while.
>> I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain columns.
>> I don't know any FOSS editor that does so.
> 
> Vim can do it.
> After visually selecting a block:
> :%s/\%Vxxx/yyy/g
> There is a vim plugin for geany that may or may not work.
> 

Nevermind about the vim plugin.

https://plugins.geany.org/vimode.html
<quote>
block visual mode is not implemented - probably possible using
Scintilla's multiple selection feature.
</quote>

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#57121

Pedro writes:
> I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain
> columns.

What do you mean by that?
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#57124

John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>:
	
> > I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain
> > columns.

> What do you mean by that?

I think he means S&R within a selected column block.
Not all text editor have this feature. Geany has.

Yrrah

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#57135

Yrrah writes:
> I think he means S&R within a selected column block.  Not all text
> editor have this feature. Geany has.

Emacs can certainly do that.  Just select your block and apply whatever
operations you wish to it.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#57125

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:31:34 -0700, Pedro Valdez wrote:

> I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain columns.
> I don't know any FOSS editor that does so.
>

The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.

Therefore, find & replace tools for "columns" would very
understandably not be available.

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#57127

F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:31:34 -0700, Pedro Valdez wrote:
> 
>> I would like to see an editor that does find&replace only in certain columns.
>> I don't know any FOSS editor that does so.
>>
> 
> The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
> 

Says you.

> Therefore, find & replace tools for "columns" would very
> understandably not be available.
> 

anon@lowtide:~$ cat afile
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
anon@lowtide:~$ sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' afile
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||XXX||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
anon@lowtide:~$ 

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#57132

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:00:55 +0000, owl wrote:

>> 
>> The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
>> 
> 
> Says you.
> 

Must I always have to repeat the obvious?

The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
A text file is composed of "lines" with each line separated
by, guess what, an end of line (EOL) character.

That's all there is. Nothing more.

You may wish to establish columns in some fashion but you
will be entirely on your own.  The rest of the world won't
know what you are doing.

You are venturing into territory known as "rich text format"
(RTF) which is not nearly the same as text.

So if you want columns, or formatting, or italics, etc.
then go with RTF and an RTF editor:

https://www.nllgg.nl/Ted

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#57134

F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:00:55 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
>>> 
>> 
>> Says you.
>> 
> 
> Must I always have to repeat the obvious?
> 
> The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
> A text file is composed of "lines" with each line separated
> by, guess what, an end of line (EOL) character.
> 
> That's all there is. Nothing more.
> 

Character positions within a line constitute natural columns, blockhead.
But chosing a delimiter makes things a bit more useful.

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#57140

owl writes:
> Character positions within a line constitute natural columns

Assuming fixed pitch.  Which, of course we obviously are or we wouldn't
be talking about columns of characters.

Note that "column" in this context could also refer to the columns of
text in a multicolumn format as in newspapers.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#57147

On 22/06/2019 18.37, John Hasler wrote:
> owl writes:
>> Character positions within a line constitute natural columns
> 
> Assuming fixed pitch.  Which, of course we obviously are or we wouldn't
> be talking about columns of characters.

We are all assuming fixed pitch since post number 1.

> 
> Note that "column" in this context could also refer to the columns of
> text in a multicolumn format as in newspapers.

Which can be done in plain text. Rare, but possible, if the editor is
capable. You see tables in readme files, and tables are a form of
columns. I have written columns in plain text sometimes, and it was very
awkward because my editor did not support it.



-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#57175

John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:87d0j5r2yo.fsf@dhh.gt.org: 

> owl writes:
>> Character positions within a line constitute natural columns
> 
> Assuming fixed pitch.  Which, of course we obviously are or we
> wouldn't be talking about columns of characters.
> 
> Note that "column" in this context could also refer to the columns
> of text in a multicolumn format as in newspapers.

Might as well use a spreadsheet to keep things where you want them and 
make them accessible.

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#57192

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote in
> news:87d0j5r2yo.fsf@dhh.gt.org: 
> 
>> owl writes:
>>> Character positions within a line constitute natural columns
>> 
>> Assuming fixed pitch.  Which, of course we obviously are or we
>> wouldn't be talking about columns of characters.
>> 
>> Note that "column" in this context could also refer to the columns
>> of text in a multicolumn format as in newspapers.
> 
> Might as well use a spreadsheet to keep things where you want them and 
> make them accessible.

sc FTW!

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#57180

Il 22/06/19 17:54, F. Russell ha scritto:
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:00:55 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
>>>
>>
>> Says you.
>>
> 
> Must I always have to repeat the obvious?
> 
> The concept of a "column" does not apply to a text file.
> A text file is composed of "lines" with each line separated
> by, guess what, an end of line (EOL) character.
> 
> That's all there is. Nothing more.
> 
> You may wish to establish columns in some fashion but you
> will be entirely on your own.  The rest of the world won't
> know what you are doing.

not completely true.
Both in win/office and in linux/LbO or Oo

newlines (\n) / CR (\r) are "major" parsing items
but tabular form is supported by "minor" parsing items,
like "\t" (TAB) character

most editors of high level supporting tables, and not using 
interlally pure ascii, can still parse TAB delimited plain 
text, and they also place in selections/clipboard ascii 
representation of the internal data using TABs
I had to use this a lot of time, as I write docs with high 
level editors, but often have to submit some "true" tables 
to basic progarms to calculations, and they "see" the 
selection/clipboard as TAB separated fields (columns) and LF 
separated rows handy to be split by native array functions, 
nested.

TAB are the default vertical parsing items independently of 
the fixed field size used in the (ASTONISHING !) example of OWL.
A visually impressive example like that is still possible 
using non proportional fonts and padding with other blanks 
(spaces, dots or else) with no particular control meaning to 
editors.
I found TAB useful as the information don't go lost even 
during multiple editors of low / high level (provided one, 
expecially in CODE editors, do not enable some special 
options for indentation like replace tabs with spaces or so).

> 
> You are venturing into territory known as "rich text format"
> (RTF) which is not nearly the same as text.

but TAB is a character supported by every editor, even 
mousepad and leafpad

in CODE oriented editors TABS acquire another meaning : 
indent (I met scintilla using OpenSCAD)

> 
> So if you want columns, or formatting, or italics, etc.
> then go with RTF and an RTF editor:

surely more handy, but in need also padding with blanks and 
use of fixed size fonts is reasonable. Expecially in 
"sprintf / printf" generated output give good looking pure ascii

> 
> https://www.nllgg.nl/Ted
> 


-- 
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

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#57133

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:00:55 +0000, owl wrote:

> sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' afile
>

Try it on this text file:

[#] cat birdbrain.txt
Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.

They contain silly "ooo" content.

Here they be:

|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||

This ends the "ooo" silly column nonsense.

Now accept text as the limited format which it is.


Result:

[#] sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' birdbrain.txt

Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.

They contain silly "XXX" content.

Here they be:
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||XXX||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||

This ends the "XXX" silly column nonsense.

Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
[#]

Oops!  It appears that the concept of a column has been
erroneously to non-column areas.

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#57136

F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:00:55 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>> sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' afile
>>
> 
> Try it on this text file:
> 
> [#] cat birdbrain.txt
> Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.
> 
> They contain silly "ooo" content.
> 
> Here they be:
> 
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> 
> This ends the "ooo" silly column nonsense.
> 
> Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
> 
> 
> Result:
> 
> [#] sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' birdbrain.txt
> 
> Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.
> 
> They contain silly "XXX" content.
> 
> Here they be:
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||XXX||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
> 
> This ends the "XXX" silly column nonsense.
> 
> Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
> [#]
> 
> Oops!  It appears that the concept of a column has been
> erroneously to non-column areas.
> 

Nope.  It worked correctly.  Columns with a given delimiter
need not line up visually.  In fact, not forcing columns to
line up gives you much greater flexibility.

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owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:00:55 +0000, owl wrote:
>> 
>>> sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' afile
>>>
>> 
>> Try it on this text file:
>> 
>> [#] cat birdbrain.txt
>> Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.
>> 
>> They contain silly "ooo" content.
>> 
>> Here they be:
>> 
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> 
>> This ends the "ooo" silly column nonsense.
>> 
>> Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
>> 
>> 
>> Result:
>> 
>> [#] sed -e 's/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g' birdbrain.txt
>> 
>> Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.
>> 
>> They contain silly "XXX" content.
>> 
>> Here they be:
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||XXX||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
>> 
>> This ends the "XXX" silly column nonsense.
>> 
>> Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
>> [#]
>> 
>> Oops!  It appears that the concept of a column has been
>> erroneously to non-column areas.
>> 
> 
> Nope.  It worked correctly.  Columns with a given delimiter
> need not line up visually.  In fact, not forcing columns to
> line up gives you much greater flexibility.
> 

And of course, you could always do this...

anon@lowtide:~$ cat -n birdbrain.txt
     1  Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.
     2
     3  They contain silly "ooo" content.
     4
     5  Here they be:
     6
     7  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
     8  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
     9  |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    10  |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    11  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    12  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    13  |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| ||||||||||
    14  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    15  |||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||ooo||||| ||||||||||
    16  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    17  |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
    18
    19  This ends the "ooo" silly column nonsense.
    20
    21  Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
anon@lowtide:~$ sed -i '7,17{s/\(.* .* .* .*\)\(ooo\)\(.* .*\)/\1XXX\3/g}' birdbrain.txt
anon@lowtide:~$ cat birdbrain.txt
Here cometh a bunch of ersatz columns.

They contain silly "ooo" content.

Here they be:

|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo|||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| ||||ooo||| |||||||||| ||||XXX||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||ooo|||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||XXX||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||
|||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| |||||||||| ||||||||||

This ends the "ooo" silly column nonsense.

Now accept text as the limited format which it is.
anon@lowtide:~$ 

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