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Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale

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  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-17 06:59 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 01:21 -0600
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-17 23:14 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-18 05:24 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-21 04:51 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-17 11:45 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 07:03 -0600
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-17 13:47 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 08:52 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-17 14:58 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 09:08 -0600

#52703 — Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2019-01-17 06:59 +0000
SubjectRe: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale
Message-ID<q1p94e$5n9$3@dont-email.me>
On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
> On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>
>> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving forward.
>
> If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
> Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the sentence?

It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.

>

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#52705

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-17 01:21 -0600
Message-ID<20190117012107.1f46b2e6@WizardsTower>
In reply to#52703
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:59:27 -0000 (UTC)
William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
> > On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving forward.  
> >
> > If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
> > Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the sentence?  
> 
> It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.
> 
It is also nonsensical if we are to believe that, "moving forward,"
refers to doing so in time since there currently is no other way to
move in that particular partial medium.   

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
We are all traveling forward in time at the rate of one second per
second.

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#52728

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-17 23:14 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9DABA1356F86HT1@0A9u8145Ld3j29ofnDyw06k9.3s3Cj82wg.TgG680>
In reply to#52705
"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
news:20190117012107.1f46b2e6@WizardsTower Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:21:07
GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:59:27 -0000 (UTC)
> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
>> > On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> >  
>> >> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving forward.  
>> >
>> > If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
>> > Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the
>> > sentence?  
>> 
>> It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.
>> 
> It is also nonsensical if we are to believe that, "moving
> forward," refers to doing so in time since there currently is no
> other way to move in that particular partial medium.   
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard

One must also consider the fact Arlen hasn't solved their mapping a 
local drive letter to Android internal/external memory, either. Far 
too adult for them to apologize and get the help they wanted, for 
free. Instead, they'd rather continue with petty insults and name 
calling and proceed to make a complete arse of themselves as they 
tried and failed, numerous times, to mount a drive letter for their 
android device. That's some uber smart thinking on their part, 
wouldn't you agree? :)


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#52736

Fromarlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date2019-01-18 05:24 +0000
Message-ID<q1rnu4$gad$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#52728
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> they tried and failed, numerous times, to mount a drive letter 
> for their android device.

Hehhehheh... 

THANK YOU Diesel for perfectly proving my very point!
o I don't have to prove you lack even the most basic of comprehension
o I only need to refer to your own words (which prove the point for me).

*Your post is a _perfect_ example for the left-side DK cognitive bias!*
o It's not that you are pulling our leg (you actually _believe_ what you write!)
o And, it's not that you're unfathomably stupid (you are - but it's worse, sadly)
... the sad fact is ...
o We _always_ had this capability - we were simply trying to improve it!

That! You can't possibly comprehend.
o We _always_ had drive-letter mapping (Always!)
o We only wished to _improve_ upon the process.

You misunderstand something as _simple_ as that!
o You _think_ you comprehend - just as the lemon-juice robber did!
o Where no amount of "lemon-juice" chemistry fact - will change your mind.

You are the epitome of the DK lemon-juice bank robber's cognitive bias!

*Hence, no amount of  fact _can_ work with you, and with people like you!*
o That! Is my epiphany!

_MOUNT REFERENCES FACTS follow (not for Diesel - for tribal knowledge):_

o How to mount the entire mobile device file system on Linux/Windows
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/6PQmYWSk34I/9kz19EkZCQAJ>

o How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/IFC52JXBQ1c>

o How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/YtpKpDhWm_s/1z7AO3jQCAAJ>

o What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc/eIts5lSSCwAJ>

o Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/IswZ5yEcpYA/wWuqoICZBgAJ>

o Tutorial to run any Windows command directly on Android over either USB or Wi-Fi
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/JrWLPRYO-TU/2gn6KqccBwAJ>

o What method you use to backup & share your installed apps on Android?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/FsRRoQbdKeo/biXD3Zv0AwAJ>

o Why doesn't Ubuntu 18.04 ask to install next to Windows 10 Pro single HDD as a dual boot?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/D7E7FQ1NLNk/B4xroB8rCAAJ>

o Proactive setup instructions for dual boot with Windows & Ubuntu via Grub using legacy keyboards
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/WltumTFjzU8/98HTzaNuCAAJ>

o Freeware to access your Android hosts file from Windows without being root
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/LTQtwSGROw8/XePw-iPuAgAJ>
etc.

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#52850

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2019-01-21 04:51 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9DDF34C94869HT1@tiM3M.m6o9fu8xr89l97AE0sk20s4yC1cygu36nA0R6>
In reply to#52736
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q1rnu4$gad$1@news.mixmin.net
Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:24:21 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
> 
>> they tried and failed, numerous times, to mount a drive letter 
>> for their android device.
> 
> Hehhehheh... 
> 
> THANK YOU Diesel for perfectly proving my very point!
> o I don't have to prove you lack even the most basic of
> comprehension o I only need to refer to your own words (which
> prove the point for me). 

What is it you're trying to prove with this reply? You don't have a 
mounted drive letter to access either your Androids internal or 
external memory. You've been trying to do it for months now, but, so 
far, have come up with nothing. The work arounds others including 
myself have provided you are not the same as a mounted drive letter.

And, you know this. You'd have to be a real fucking idiot to assume 
others have forgotten your long tirades and effort already spent in 
accomplishing it. It's also a known fact, that you so far, haven't 
been able to pull it off.

> o We _always_ had drive-letter mapping (Always!)
> o We only wished to _improve_ upon the process.

No, you haven't. You haven't been able to mount Android internal or 
external memory as a usable drive letter for your Windows based 
machine. You have made use of the MTP protocol via console and gui 
several times to alter data on your Android device, but, you have 
failed (and failed quite nicely for months now) to turn what you've 
learned into a drive letter mapping.

> You misunderstand something as _simple_ as that!

I misunderstood nothing. You specifically wanted drive letters 
pointing to your Android device shares. You have not been able to get 
that working.

[snip thread links]

None of which result in a drive letter mapped to any Android device 
shares for you, so far, Arlen.



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#52709

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-17 11:45 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq40qm2.vve.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#52703
William Unruh wrote:
> On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
>> On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving forward.
>>
>> If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
>> Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the sentence?
>
> It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.

(stripped out everyone else, I think we're all a.o.l people here anyway)

There has to be a defined term for this somewhere, proving there's a
logical fallacy in arlen's statement.

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#52710

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-17 07:03 -0600
Message-ID<20190117070301.6236e010@WizardsTower>
In reply to#52709
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:45:06 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> William Unruh wrote:
> > On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:  
> >> On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving forward.  
> >>
> >> If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
> >> Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the sentence?  
> >
> > It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.  
> 
> (stripped out everyone else, I think we're all a.o.l people here
> anyway)
> 
> There has to be a defined term for this somewhere, proving there's a
> logical fallacy in arlen's statement.
> 
"Logically, grammatically, and factually incorrect?"

Cybe R. Wizard
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#52711

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-17 13:47 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq411r4.vve.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#52710
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:45:06 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>
>> William Unruh wrote:
>> > On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:  
>> >> On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>> >>  
>> >>> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving forward.  
>> >>
>> >> If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
>> >> Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the sentence?  
>> >
>> > It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.  
>> 
>> (stripped out everyone else, I think we're all a.o.l people here
>> anyway)
>> 
>> There has to be a defined term for this somewhere, proving there's a
>> logical fallacy in arlen's statement.
>> 
> "Logically, grammatically, and factually incorrect?"

Well, yeah, but I mean something like "begging the question" or
something.  Although 'ad hominem' is definitely a favorite of his.


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#52712

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-17 08:52 -0600
Message-ID<20190117085212.3a2bb585@WizardsTower>
In reply to#52711
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:47:16 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:45:06 -0000 (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
> >  
> >> William Unruh wrote:  
> >> > On 2019-01-17, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:    
> >> >> On 2019-01-16, arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> >> >>    
> >> >>> We're going to have far shorter discussions, moving
> >> >>> forward.    
> >> >>
> >> >> If the goal is shorer discussions you're wasting words. 
> >> >> Other then length what does "moving forward" add to the
> >> >> sentence?    
> >> >
> >> > It gives the lie to the rest of the sentence.    
> >> 
> >> (stripped out everyone else, I think we're all a.o.l people here
> >> anyway)
> >> 
> >> There has to be a defined term for this somewhere, proving there's
> >> a logical fallacy in arlen's statement.
> >>   
> > "Logically, grammatically, and factually incorrect?"  
> 
> Well, yeah, but I mean something like "begging the question" or
> something.  Although 'ad hominem' is definitely a favorite of his.

OK, then, where's my list...
 
Often he's guilty of a false dichotomy, or refusing to acknowledge
alternate views.  ...may apply.

Regularly he's guilty of a repetition fallacy, but not, I think, here.

Often he's guilty of a strawman argument by trying to move off-point.
...maybe this applies.

Of course, his first reply to Jolly Rodger was an ad hominem wherein he
attacked the person, not the argument.

He tried dismissing Jolly's argument with no proof, thereby appealing
to the stone.

Assuming his premise to be automatically correct, he is almost always
begging the question.

He snips facts that don't support his argument and that's cherry
picking.

When he offers no supporting evidence he is using circular logic.

He so wants his assertions to be true but that doesn't mean they are.
That's known as a divine fallacy.

DANG, it looks like he uses almost the entire list of fallacious
arguments in his posts.

Cybe R. Wizard -thinks Ben was describing Arler Holden here:
-- 
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#52713

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2019-01-17 14:58 +0000
Message-ID<slrnq415vs.vve.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#52712
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:47:16 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> > "Logically, grammatically, and factually incorrect?"  
>> 
>> Well, yeah, but I mean something like "begging the question" or
>> something.  Although 'ad hominem' is definitely a favorite of his.
>
> [...]
> DANG, it looks like he uses almost the entire list of fallacious
> arguments in his posts.

Now that was a good laugh, Cybe.  I'm eagerly anticipating his "now Cybe
R. Wizard, you are a child.  You don't know why you are a child Cybe R.
Wizard, so I will tell you..."

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#52715

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2019-01-17 09:08 -0600
Message-ID<20190117090811.4252b36e@WizardsTower>
In reply to#52713
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:58:04 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:47:16 -0000 (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:  
> >> > "Logically, grammatically, and factually incorrect?"    
> >> 
> >> Well, yeah, but I mean something like "begging the question" or
> >> something.  Although 'ad hominem' is definitely a favorite of
> >> his.  
> >
> > [...]
> > DANG, it looks like he uses almost the entire list of fallacious
> > arguments in his posts.  
> 
> Now that was a good laugh, Cybe.  I'm eagerly anticipating his "now
> Cybe R. Wizard, you are a child.  You don't know why you are a child
> Cybe R. Wizard, so I will tell you..."

+1

I can hardly wait.  ...for heaven's (or Jesus') sake!  I like sake!

Cybe R. Wizard -feeling younger already
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