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| Subject | Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? |
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On Tue, 2/25/2025 8:23 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 12:16 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-02-21 12:55, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2025 10:02 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-21 08:02, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> So I copied a program ('QI', British half hour 'Comedy' program) from the PVR's HD to the USB Drive, ejected the USB Drive (i.e. 'Safely remove ....'), booted this Win 11 Desktop, inserted the USB Drive, File Explorer, double clicked on the big file titled '000' (116MB+) which started up Media Player ..... only to find out my Win-11 has no MPEG2 codec/whatever ("Checking codec availability. We're checking if we have a codec for this item."). ;-(
>>>>
>>>> Install VLC.
>>>>
>>> Maybe .... after I install Linux ... Dual boot!
>>
>> It doesn't matter Linux or Windows. Just install VLC.
>>
> Installed VLC in Win 11
>
> https://get.videolan.org/vlc/3.0.21/win64/vlc-3.0.21-win64.exe#google_vignette
>
> ran VLC i.e. got the pretty Orange/White Traffic cone, selected 'Media', "Open File", located my file on the USB drive, clicked on it ...... and the Traffic cone stayed put!!
>
> What might I be doing wrong??
>
> Note the file that was copied from PVR drive to USB drive was called '000' .... note no three character file type on the name!!
Like VLC, you can have a play with FFMPEG and the three files it carries.
It is a command line program, but the syntax is not too hard for this task.
The download will cost you 54MB or so.
https://ffmpeg.org/download.html
"Windows EXE Files"
"Windows builds from gyan.dev"
https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/
ffmpeg-2025-02-20-git-bc1a3bfd2c-full_build.7z <=== scroll down a bit, static builds with no DLLs needed
Name: ffmpeg-2025-02-20-git-bc1a3bfd2c-full_build.7z
Size: 54,590,618 bytes (52 MiB)
SHA256: D63054733432866D1BD075C9EE0F0859A36391E8638ABC55C3933A143378EAFE
(matches the sha256 link on the page = d63054733432866d1bd075c9ee0f0859a36391e8638abc55c3933a143378eafe )
Now, Windows 11 has libarchive to extend the reach of .cab/.zip support.
Right click, do "open with" "Windows Explorer" will make
a pseudo-folder of the thing. Navigate to the bin\ in there,
and copy out these three files you see in File Explorer
ffmpeg.exe 145,039KB
ffplay.exe 144,891KB
ffprobe.exe 144,906KB
to another place on your hard drive. You don't need to download a copy
of 7ZIP, due to the inclusion of libarchive. Story may be different on Win10.
How would you use these programs ?
For this purpose, move the "000" file to the hard drive folder
where you put the three EXE files. In a command prompt window (you can
use Powershell window and type "cmd.exe" and run that), you can
navigate to your work folder.
cd /d C:\users\daniel\Downloads\FFMPEG
ffplay 000 # This works like a VLC would, relative path is used to find 000
ffprobe 000 # This attempts analysis of the file, the same way the ffplay
# command would attempt analysis.
Here, I will show the salient parts of the ffprobe of my 000 sample file (much output removed):
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '000':
...
Stream #0:0[0x1](eng): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 125 kb/s (default)
...
Stream #0:1[0x2](eng): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(progressive),
1280x720 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 4869 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 30k tbn (default)
That is a recognizable video track and audio track, so "ffplay" should be able to play it.
If it complains, you can also try:
.\ffplay 000
Help for the command is like this:
ffplay -h
And it includes info like this:
Getting help:
-h -- print basic options
-h long -- print more options
-h full -- print all options (including all format and codec specific options, very long)
-h type=thingy -- (if you know the topic by name already)
It is not a hex editor. And the output is a bit confusing, for example the line with gobs of this junk:
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 ...
Nevertheless, that line is important, when you're looking for "performance". When
converting video between formats, there are hardware accelerator options that only
work if they were included in the build. And that "big line of garbage" is there
to tell you what got included in the build. For example, on Linux, NVENC and NVDEC
are not included -- but, you can recompile from source and include them yourself.
Ubuntu has excellent package alignment, and rebuilding it should not be traumatic
(and including the flags for the things you want). I know, because I did it when
I wanted to compare the performance of Windows versus Linux (since the video card
does all the work, Linux was faster by 1% or so, there was a measurable diff).
In the case of the above file source, Gyan has already done this part for you,
and NVENC and NVDEC would work... if you had a midrange NVidia card. Some
low end cards, lack the video SIP so the acceleration is not available.
But none of these details are necessary, just to "play 000" kind of thing.
Nothing matters... but that it works. If it says anything about "I don't
see a video file", then the file was encrypted.
Paul
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-28 11:13 +0000
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-04 23:32 +1100
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 00:41 +0000
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-28 11:24 +0000
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-18 02:31 -0600
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-18 13:29 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-18 20:29 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-20 21:09 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-20 13:27 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-20 17:46 -0800
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 18:08 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-21 12:11 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:40 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-21 19:30 +0000
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-22 19:54 +0000
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 03:46 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-21 22:37 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:58 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-25 14:19 +0100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:36 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-21 08:34 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:31 +0000
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Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-16 10:54 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-16 17:01 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 09:57 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-16 10:34 -0800
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-17 08:52 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-17 14:49 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 20:17 +1100
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-21 10:35 +0000
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 12:41 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-02-26 18:53 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-26 20:14 -0500
Re: So far OT ..... DVD+R v DVD-R ... What's the difference?? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 02:39 +0000
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