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GUI "crash"

Started byphilo <philo@privacy.net>
First post2016-01-22 05:47 -0600
Last post2016-01-25 04:10 +0000
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  GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 05:47 -0600
    Re: GUI "crash" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:17 -0500
      Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 08:27 -0600
        Re: GUI "crash" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 10:53 -0500
          Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 10:18 -0600
      Re: GUI "crash" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-22 07:19 -0800
        Re: GUI "crash" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-22 16:52 +0100
        Re: GUI "crash" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 10:57 -0500
          Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 10:25 -0600
        Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 10:24 -0600
    Re: GUI "crash" Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 15:30 +0000
      Re: GUI "crash" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:02 -0500
        Re: GUI "crash" Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-22 17:22 +0100
          Re: GUI "crash" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-22 11:32 -0500
            Re: GUI "crash" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-22 19:46 +0100
          Re: GUI "crash" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 12:01 -0500
        Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 10:29 -0600
          Re: GUI "crash" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-22 19:47 +0100
            Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 12:58 -0600
              Re: GUI "crash" mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-22 19:20 -0500
                Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 18:29 -0600
                  Re: GUI "crash" mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-22 20:42 -0500
                    Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 21:53 -0600
                      Re: GUI "crash" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-23 10:13 +0100
                        Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-23 06:23 -0600
                          Re: GUI "crash" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-23 16:40 +0100
                            Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-23 10:16 -0600
      Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 10:26 -0600
      Re: GUI "crash" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-22 11:29 -0500
    Re: GUI "crash" ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2016-01-22 15:47 +0000
      Re: GUI "crash" philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 10:30 -0600
    Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 13:40 -0600
      Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-22 20:11 -0600
        Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-22 21:32 -0600
          Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 11:36 +0000
            Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-23 06:24 -0600
    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-24 12:05 -0600
      Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 13:24 -0500
        Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-24 12:30 -0600
          Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 13:36 -0500
            Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-24 18:46 +0000
          Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-24 19:18 +0000
            Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-24 13:56 -0600
              Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 21:52 +0100
                Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-24 14:58 -0600
                  Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 23:03 +0100
                    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-24 17:23 -0600
              Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 18:11 -0500
              Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-25 01:04 +0000
                Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-24 19:22 -0600
                  Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-25 08:39 +0000
                    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-25 04:33 -0600
                Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-24 23:06 -0600
                  Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 00:15 -0500
                    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-24 23:42 -0600
                  Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-25 10:41 +0000
                    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-25 09:51 -0600
                      Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-25 10:03 -0600
                        Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 11:06 -0500
                        Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-25 10:54 -0600
                          Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 12:07 -0500
                  Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-25 05:49 -0500
                    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:50 -0500
                Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:42 -0500
                Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:42 -0500
                Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-25 10:09 -0800
                  Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-26 09:00 +0000
                    Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-26 05:26 -0500
            Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 18:09 -0500
              Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:10 +0000

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#186508

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-22 18:29 -0600
Message-ID<n7uhcr$r5s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186507
On 01/22/2016 06:20 PM, mike antipasto wrote:
X
X
>>
>>
>> I don't want to chance it but may look into another file manager
>
> You should look into another operating system.
> Desktop Linux is a disaster.
>



Already have done that...
I have two main machines and a KVM switch.

My main machine runs Linux and my 2nd machine Win7


I run them simultaneously and use each machine for what it does best.

Linux is used almost 100% for email and accessing the web.


The Windows machine is close to impossible to used on-line. No many how 
many pop-up and ad-ware blockers I try, the web pages load impossibly 
slow...Under Linux everything runs smooth and fast.


In the 15 years I've been using Linux I've had few problems and if I do, 
I usually get a good answer pretty fast just by posting on Usenet.


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#186509

Frommike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org>
Date2016-01-22 20:42 -0500
Message-ID<n7ulla$6jf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186508
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:29:53 -0600, philo wrote:

> On 01/22/2016 06:20 PM, mike antipasto wrote:
> X
> X
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to chance it but may look into another file manager
>>
>> You should look into another operating system.
>> Desktop Linux is a disaster.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Already have done that...
> I have two main machines and a KVM switch.
> 
> My main machine runs Linux and my 2nd machine Win7

Ok.
 
> 
> I run them simultaneously and use each machine for what it does best.

Good idea.
 
> Linux is used almost 100% for email and accessing the web.

Good application for Linux.
> 
> The Windows machine is close to impossible to used on-line. No many how 
> many pop-up and ad-ware blockers I try, the web pages load impossibly 
> slow...Under Linux everything runs smooth and fast.

I don't have those problems.
Never have.
What kind of sites are you visiting?
I use Adblock with Chrome and Opera.
> 
> In the 15 years I've been using Linux I've had few problems and if I do, 
> I usually get a good answer pretty fast just by posting on Usenet.

Well I gave you one, VLC for your video/ avi corruption :)

I'm not anti-Linux at all and in fact I run my home media server on Linux.
However when it comes to mainstream applications, multimedia, support for
things like tablets, smart phones, hardware and so forth, nothing comes
close to Windows and especially in terms of applications.
Context sensitive help is just one area where Linux fails.

The truth is, Linux applications are like something out of the mid 90's.
Take away the freedom factor and charge for Linux and zero people would be
running Linux.

Most of the people running Linux hate corporations, hate Microsoft, loath
Apple and so forth. And they are willing to put up with half baked unstable
user unfriendly Linux applications just so they can toss the middle finger
at Microsoft.

It's basically cutting off ones nose to spite ones face.

As for support, take a look at this group as an example. It's pathetic. The
people are nasty, ignorant and childish. Is this really the kind of support
you want to depend upon? And you can extrapolate this to any Linux group.
Same crazy people.

Linux is great in theory but terrible in practice. Seriously. Unless you
are some kind of command line junkie circa 1985 running Linux applications
is a huge step in the wrong direction and ignoring their faults for the
sake of freedom fighting is a losing battle.

Why?

Did you see that the FSF just sold out to corporations?
Yep.
They are abandoning the Linux community and following the money.
Wonder how all the suckers who give away their software and time feel about
that.

http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/71148-linux-foundation-
shows-it-backs-corporates-not-community

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html

It's your choice, but just take a look at what photography applications are
available for Windows or OSX vs Linux and honestly look at the features
before deciding.

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#186514

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-22 21:53 -0600
Message-ID<n7utaf$s3c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186509
On 01/22/2016 07:42 PM, mike antipasto wrote:
>

>> The Windows machine is close to impossible to used on-line. No many how
>> many pop-up and ad-ware blockers I try, the web pages load impossibly
>> slow...Under Linux everything runs smooth and fast.
>
> I don't have those problems.
> Never have.
> What kind of sites are you visiting?
> I use Adblock with Chrome and Opera.


Mainly just Facebook. Either Firefox or Chrome.
>>
>> In the 15 years I've been using Linux I've had few problems and if I do,
>> I usually get a good answer pretty fast just by posting on Usenet.
>
> Well I gave you one, VLC for your video/ avi corruption :)


Yep that was damn good advice and VLC is an incredibly good application
>
> I'm not anti-Linux at all and in fact I run my home media server on Linux.
> However when it comes to mainstream applications, multimedia, support for
> things like tablets, smart phones, hardware and so forth, nothing comes
> close to Windows and especially in terms of applications.
> Context sensitive help is just one area where Linux fails.

For quite some time I was using Linux for just about everything
but have been scanning my old slides and negatives for the last three 
months. Though I can use Viewscan to get the slide/film scanning portion 
of my scanner working...using it with the actual Epson (Windows) drivers 
considerably reduces my workload.

Like I said...I could care less what OS I use...so I use Windows and 
Linux and even own a few Macs.

I was working 40 -60 hours a week for three full months scanning and 
organizing my photos and those of my father's going all the way back 
1950. I got the attention of a fine arts dealer here in town and now at 
the age of 66 I can be considered a professional.

WOW!

>
> The truth is, Linux applications are like something out of the mid 90's.
> Take away the freedom factor and charge for Linux and zero people would be
> running Linux.
>
> Most of the people running Linux hate corporations, hate Microsoft, loath
> Apple and so forth. And they are willing to put up with half baked unstable
> user unfriendly Linux applications just so they can toss the middle finger
> at Microsoft.
>
> It's basically cutting off ones nose to spite ones face.
>
> As for support, take a look at this group as an example. It's pathetic. The
> people are nasty, ignorant and childish. Is this really the kind of support
> you want to depend upon? And you can extrapolate this to any Linux group.
> Same crazy people.


Actually I get great advice on Usenet. All I do is put the buffoons in 
the kill-file and that's that.
>
> Linux is great in theory but terrible in practice. Seriously. Unless you
> are some kind of command line junkie circa 1985 running Linux applications
> is a huge step in the wrong direction and ignoring their faults for the
> sake of freedom fighting is a losing battle.


Though I can use the command line I don't have to.  In general I've 
found Linux to work well but don't stew on it if I need to use 
Windows...for example...to run my scanner.

While I was doing the scanning it did go through my mind that...sheesh 
isn't it kind of silly for me to be using Linux? So while I was scanning 
on my Windows machine and between scans checking Facebook etc I did not 
at first see the need to turn on my Linux machine...but it just got too 
frustrating.


>
> Why?
>
> Did you see that the FSF just sold out to corporations?
> Yep.
> They are abandoning the Linux community and following the money.
> Wonder how all the suckers who give away their software and time feel about
> that.
>

I don't care anything about the politics behind operating system...all I 
want is something that works for me...and no one OS can do it all.
> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/71148-linux-foundation-
> shows-it-backs-corporates-not-community
>
> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/39546.html
>
> It's your choice, but just take a look at what photography applications are
> available for Windows or OSX vs Linux and honestly look at the features
> before deciding.
>

Once I have my photo scanned my philosophy to keep it simple.

Since, like I said all I care about is "What's the simplest and easiest 
way for me to do my job?"

I do not do extensive photo-editing. Most of my photography is unposed 
candids and I don't believe in doing much post-processing.

Possibly converting a color image to grayscale...adjusting contrast and 
gamma a bit.

Many years ago I purchased ACDsee 3.0 and still use it today.

It works (in anything) better under WINE on Linux than it does on 
Windows. Since I have a lot of photos here, I can't spend all day 
working on them,,,and can probably have three images edited before 
Photoshop would even open.


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#186518

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2016-01-23 10:13 +0100
Message-ID<56a3443e$0$23801$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#186514
Op 23-01-16 om 04:53 write philo:
> For quite some time I was using Linux for just about everything
> but have been scanning my old slides and negatives for the last three
> months. Though I can use Viewscan to get the slide/film scanning portion
> of my scanner working...using it with the actual Epson (Windows) drivers
> considerably reduces my workload.

I have an Epson V600 that I use under Linux for both positives and 
negatives.
To get most out of it I bought a licence to Hamrick's Vuescan and like 
it so much I even use it on the company's Windows computer :)

It's not only what work flow you get used to, at the end of the day 
Linux (Kubuntu) is faster, more flexible and offers better reliability.

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#186520

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-23 06:23 -0600
Message-ID<n7vr66$f7m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186518
On 01/23/2016 03:13 AM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> Op 23-01-16 om 04:53 write philo:
>> For quite some time I was using Linux for just about everything
>> but have been scanning my old slides and negatives for the last three
>> months. Though I can use Viewscan to get the slide/film scanning portion
>> of my scanner working...using it with the actual Epson (Windows) drivers
>> considerably reduces my workload.
>
> I have an Epson V600 that I use under Linux for both positives and
> negatives.
> To get most out of it I bought a licence to Hamrick's Vuescan and like
> it so much I even use it on the company's Windows computer :)
>
> It's not only what work flow you get used to, at the end of the day
> Linux (Kubuntu) is faster, more flexible and offers better reliability.



It's possible I did not give Vuescan a fair chance as I only used the 
trial version.


If you scan two strips of negatives can you scan each frame into an 
individual jpg ? If so then it probably would have worked for me.


Also with Viewscan what's the highest resolution you can scan at?

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#186524

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2016-01-23 16:40 +0100
Message-ID<56a39ed6$0$23792$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#186520
Op 23-01-16 om 13:23 schreef philo:
>> I have an Epson V600 that I use under Linux for both positives and
>> negatives.
>> To get most out of it I bought a licence to Hamrick's Vuescan and like
>> it so much I even use it on the company's Windows computer :)
>>
>> It's not only what work flow you get used to, at the end of the day
>> Linux (Kubuntu) is faster, more flexible and offers better reliability.
>
>
>
> It's possible I did not give Vuescan a fair chance as I only used the
> trial version.
Except for the watermark it should work the same.

2011 I bought the life long updates version.
A few months later there was a structural change in (K)Ubuntu 11.10 to 
where certain 64-bit libs were (/usr/lib/iscan) and Vuescan would no 
longer work.

After a couple of mails and tests it was fixed.
>
>
> If you scan two strips of negatives can you scan each frame into an
> individual jpg ? If so then it probably would have worked for me.

Yes each frame will become a separate jpg.
You can set it to automatic or manual framing.
The maximum strip size is 2x6 frames.
>
>
> Also with Viewscan what's the highest resolution you can scan at?

The highest this scanner can do is 6400, I've done a few at 4800 but 
that was over the resolution of the lens I used.
Most are at 2400-3600.

By modern standards it is not the prettiest application, it is business 
like and I find it easy to navigate.

The frequent updates are easy to implement, unpack the .tgz and copy the 
content over the original files in ~/.vuescan.

The trolls will claim us Linux and OSS users want everything for free 
but I'm happy to spend on good software, even if it is closed source 
like Vuescan.

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#186525

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-23 10:16 -0600
Message-ID<n808rb$k6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186524
On 01/23/2016 09:40 AM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> O
>
> 2011 I bought the life long updates version.
> A few months later there was a structural change in (K)Ubuntu 11.10 to
> where certain 64-bit libs were (/usr/lib/iscan) and Vuescan would no
> longer work.
>
> After a couple of mails and tests it was fixed.
>>
>>
>> If you scan two strips of negatives can you scan each frame into an
>> individual jpg ? If so then it probably would have worked for me.
>
> Yes each frame will become a separate jpg.
> You can set it to automatic or manual framing.
> The maximum strip size is 2x6 frames.
>>
>>
>> Also with Viewscan what's the highest resolution you can scan at?
>
> The highest this scanner can do is 6400, I've done a few at 4800 but
> that was over the resolution of the lens I used.
> Most are at 2400-3600.
>
> By modern standards it is not the prettiest application, it is business
> like and I find it easy to navigate.
>
> The frequent updates are easy to implement, unpack the .tgz and copy the
> content over the original files in ~/.vuescan.
>
> The trolls will claim us Linux and OSS users want everything for free
> but I'm happy to spend on good software, even if it is closed source
> like Vuescan.



Thanks for the info...I certainly do not mind paying for things that work.

Now that my scanning project is done though I'm not sure if it would now 
be worth it...but I better have a better look at the trial version

thanks

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#186491

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-22 10:26 -0600
Message-ID<n7tl2s$7s7$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186481
On 01/22/2016 09:30 AM, Edmund wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 05:47:14 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> Using Ubuntu 15.10 (64bit) Dual core AMD / 8 gigs RAM and lower end
>> nVidia. System has had zero problems until recently when organizing my
>> extensive photo archives. I've been moving folders containing up to 500
>> or 600 jpgs.
>>
>> The moves have been 100% successful however Nautilus will often shut
>> down in the process and I'm left with it either stalled or a complete
>> blank desktop. Since I'm now mostly done organizing my data it's not l a
>> major problem...but still I know that is absolutely incorrect behavior
>> and I'd like to correct it. Any ideas?
>
> For starters I don't consider 600 jpgs anything near a extensive photo
> collection. My cell phone alone can hold a lot more.
> My experience with several file browsers is more or less the same, they
> all fail when handling really large amounts of data.
> I can say it seems to be a file-browser problem but in fact I really have
> no idea what is causing these problems.
>
> Edmund
>



Correct, I have perhaps 50,000 images but don't keep any more than 600 
or so in any one folder

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#186492

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-22 11:29 -0500
Message-ID<22m4abtqg797p0ve6ajn084qb5oi05p73o@4ax.com>
In reply to#186481
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:30:30 -0000 (UTC), Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
Gave us:

>On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 05:47:14 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> Using Ubuntu 15.10 (64bit) Dual core AMD / 8 gigs RAM and lower end
>> nVidia. System has had zero problems until recently when organizing my
>> extensive photo archives. I've been moving folders containing up to 500
>> or 600 jpgs.
>> 
>> The moves have been 100% successful however Nautilus will often shut
>> down in the process and I'm left with it either stalled or a complete
>> blank desktop. Since I'm now mostly done organizing my data it's not l a
>> major problem...but still I know that is absolutely incorrect behavior
>> and I'd like to correct it. Any ideas?
>
>For starters I don't consider 600 jpgs anything near a extensive photo 
>collection. My cell phone alone can hold a lot more.
>My experience with several file browsers is more or less the same, they 
>all fail when handling really large amounts of data. 
>I can say it seems to be a file-browser problem but in fact I really have 
>no idea what is causing these problems.
>

  That is so much horseshit.  An internet app is a "browser".

  File managers are file managers and they are meant to function with
one's stored data.  ALL of it, regardless of type or file size.

  They are not "browsers", ding dong.  And apparently you fail when a
large amount of facts is presented to you and start making shit up and
guessing as you plod though life.

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#186482

Fromray carter <ray@zianet.com>
Date2016-01-22 15:47 +0000
Message-ID<dgf192FdhlkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#186474
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 05:47:14 -0600, philo wrote:

> Using Ubuntu 15.10 (64bit) Dual core AMD / 8 gigs RAM and lower end
> nVidia. System has had zero problems until recently when organizing my
> extensive photo archives. I've been moving folders containing up to 500
> or 600 jpgs.
> 
> The moves have been 100% successful however Nautilus will often shut
> down in the process and I'm left with it either stalled or a complete
> blank desktop. Since I'm now mostly done organizing my data it's not l a
> major problem...but still I know that is absolutely incorrect behavior
> and I'd like to correct it. Any ideas?

Have you been moving the folders or moving all the files? To move a 
folder should be a simple one step operation.

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#186494

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-22 10:30 -0600
Message-ID<n7tl9n$7s7$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186482
On 01/22/2016 09:47 AM, ray carter wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 05:47:14 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> Using Ubuntu 15.10 (64bit) Dual core AMD / 8 gigs RAM and lower end
>> nVidia. System has had zero problems until recently when organizing my
>> extensive photo archives. I've been moving folders containing up to 500
>> or 600 jpgs.
>>
>> The moves have been 100% successful however Nautilus will often shut
>> down in the process and I'm left with it either stalled or a complete
>> blank desktop. Since I'm now mostly done organizing my data it's not l a
>> major problem...but still I know that is absolutely incorrect behavior
>> and I'd like to correct it. Any ideas?
>
> Have you been moving the folders or moving all the files? To move a
> folder should be a simple one step operation.
>



In some cases it was the entire folder and in some cases moving the 
contents of some folders to another.

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#186502 — Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-22 13:40 -0600
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Probable solution
Message-ID<n7u0f1$ohl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186474
Have not used in for many years but installed Xfe

gave it a try and it seems to work fast and without a htich

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#186510 — Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2016-01-22 20:11 -0600
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Probable solution
Message-ID<20160122201136.1d1800e6@wizardstower.lan>
In reply to#186502
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:40:55 -0600
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> Have not used in for many years but installed Xfe
> 
> gave it a try and it seems to work fast and without a htich

While trying, try pcmanfm.  It's been my choice for a while.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326
Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136

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#186513 — Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-22 21:32 -0600
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Probable solution
Message-ID<n7us3u$p60$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186510
On 01/22/2016 08:11 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:40:55 -0600
> philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Have not used in for many years but installed Xfe
>>
>> gave it a try and it seems to work fast and without a htich
>
> While trying, try pcmanfm.  It's been my choice for a while.
>
> Cybe R. Wizard
>


Will give it a try if I have any more problems but looks ok now
thanks

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#186519 — Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution

FromEdmund <nomail@hotmail.com>
Date2016-01-23 11:36 +0000
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Probable solution
Message-ID<n7voja$al3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186513
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:32:54 -0600, philo wrote:

> On 01/22/2016 08:11 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:40:55 -0600 philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Have not used in for many years but installed Xfe
>>>
>>> gave it a try and it seems to work fast and without a htich
>>
>> While trying, try pcmanfm.  It's been my choice for a while.
>>
>> Cybe R. Wizard
>>
>>
> 
> Will give it a try if I have any more problems but looks ok now thanks

I have Xfe and tried all file browsers, they all fail in one way or 
another. Not much problems with small amounts of data.

Edmund 

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#186521 — Re: GUI "crash" Probable solution

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-23 06:24 -0600
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Probable solution
Message-ID<n7vr92$f7m$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186519
On 01/23/2016 05:36 AM, Edmund wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:32:54 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> On 01/22/2016 08:11 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:40:55 -0600 philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have not used in for many years but installed Xfe
>>>>
>>>> gave it a try and it seems to work fast and without a htich
>>>
>>> While trying, try pcmanfm.  It's been my choice for a while.
>>>
>>> Cybe R. Wizard
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Will give it a try if I have any more problems but looks ok now thanks
>
> I have Xfe and tried all file browsers, they all fail in one way or
> another. Not much problems with small amounts of data.
>
> Edmund
>



The problem I had seems to have been due to moving files while set to 
thumbnail view so I will avoid doing that no matter which file manager I use

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#186555 — Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-24 12:05 -0600
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer
Message-ID<n833jc$fgf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186474
On 01/22/2016 05:47 AM, philo wrote:
> Using Ubuntu 15.10 (64bit) Dual core AMD / 8 gigs RAM and lower end
> nVidia. System has had zero problems until recently when organizing my
> extensive photo archives. I've been moving folders containing up to 500
> or 600 jpgs.
>
> The moves have been 100% successful however Nautilus will often shut
> down in the process and I'm left with it either stalled or a complete
> blank desktop. Since I'm now mostly done organizing my data it's not l a
> major problem...but still I know that is absolutely incorrect behavior
> and I'd like to correct it. Any ideas?



I did some more testing with Thumbnails disabled, then used Nautilus to 
copy about 1.2gigs of data, it still crashed.

Tried Xfe and it worked very well, smooth and without a problem.



Tried Xfe with thumbnails enabled and it did not work so hot.


Bottom line is to use Xfe with thumbnails off when moving or copying data

and to use Nautilus with thumbnails enable for simply viewing

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#186557 — Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer

From"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-24 13:24 -0500
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer
Message-ID<n834no$k9c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186555
philo wrote:

> I did some more testing with Thumbnails disabled, then used Nautilus to
> copy about 1.2gigs of data, it still crashed.
>
> Tried Xfe and it worked very well, smooth and without a problem.
>
>
>
> Tried Xfe with thumbnails enabled and it did not work so hot.
>
>
> Bottom line is to use Xfe with thumbnails off when moving or copying data
>
> and to use Nautilus with thumbnails enable for simply viewing

I think they just need to fix the bug.  Moving or copying when data is 
images thumbnails is really handy and SHOULD be a viable option. 
Nautilus people fix the bug!

-- 
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#186560 — Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-01-24 12:30 -0600
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer
Message-ID<n8352i$lbf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186557
On 01/24/2016 12:24 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> I did some more testing with Thumbnails disabled, then used Nautilus to
>> copy about 1.2gigs of data, it still crashed.
>>
>> Tried Xfe and it worked very well, smooth and without a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tried Xfe with thumbnails enabled and it did not work so hot.
>>
>>
>> Bottom line is to use Xfe with thumbnails off when moving or copying data
>>
>> and to use Nautilus with thumbnails enable for simply viewing
>
> I think they just need to fix the bug.  Moving or copying when data is
> images thumbnails is really handy and SHOULD be a viable option.
> Nautilus people fix the bug!
>



Considering that Nautilus has been around for 15 years my guess is it's 
not going to get fixed.

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#186561 — Re: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-24 13:36 -0500
SubjectRe: GUI "crash" Follow up and answer
Message-ID<ba6aablclcposd1aeal3j4or6vs8tc6gga@4ax.com>
In reply to#186560
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:30:17 -0600, philo <philo@privacy.net> Gave us:

>On 01/24/2016 12:24 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> philo wrote:
>>
>>> I did some more testing with Thumbnails disabled, then used Nautilus to
>>> copy about 1.2gigs of data, it still crashed.
>>>
>>> Tried Xfe and it worked very well, smooth and without a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tried Xfe with thumbnails enabled and it did not work so hot.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bottom line is to use Xfe with thumbnails off when moving or copying data
>>>
>>> and to use Nautilus with thumbnails enable for simply viewing
>>
>> I think they just need to fix the bug.  Moving or copying when data is
>> images thumbnails is really handy and SHOULD be a viable option.
>> Nautilus people fix the bug!
>>
>
>
>
>Considering that Nautilus has been around for 15 years my guess is it's 
>not going to get fixed.

  Have you even followed the thread?

  It is a problem with the thumbnail applet which gets called into play
by the file MANGER.

  And we already know what credulity to assign to your guesses.

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