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| Started by | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000 |
| Last post | 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 369 — 50 participants |
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Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
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| From | Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <rus9f2$hju$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216520 |
On 26/01/2021 04:32, J. Clarke wrote: > > I'm told that India has many languages--only about 40% of the > population are native speakers of Hindi. The most spoken language in > the world is English, narrowly edging out Mandarin, with Hindi third > and Spanish fourth. OTOH, Mandarin has the largest number of native > speakers, followed by Spanish, English, and Hindi in that order. > The thing about English is that it's quite easy to be understood. You can do many things to it, and still the understanding had can be... OTOH it's been the language of the dominant economic power in the world for several hundred years. That was the British Empire, now of course it's the US. (And BTW it's quadrilingual. Lingua is from the Latin, so you use the Latin prefix. See also tetrahedron, where both parts come from the Greek.) Andy
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <875z3kf1mm.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216519 |
On 26 Jan 2021 04:15:57 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: > > I started using computers at an early age, and while translated software > existed even back then, you couldn't really rely on it existing, so > English was a vital skill. Later I started reading books in English as > well, and of course, Sweden doesn't dub anything intended for an > audience old enough to read. > > Basically I got about the maximum amount of immersion possible without > living in an English-speaking country. Reminds me on a friend who early in 1986 just scored big in the lottery. There was this small computer retailer in our village and happened to have one of the first Commodore Amiga running some demos in the shop's window with computer geeks outside dropping jaws. It was an American model because it was still several months until the German localized model would show up. My friend wanted it badly so paid a crazy amount of money to "convince" the shop owner to let it go. The friend's English was bad (non existing) so I was called in. But I also failed, reading about "bit planes" (what the heck do flying planes made out of bits inside a computer?) and other terms I never heard about. When I got my Amiga 500 in 1989 it had a German manual, but the translation for "bit planes" (if it even was translated; can't remember) was still confusing. I was only once in the UK in 1985 or so, student's exchange. My English was bad and that was reflected in the results of exams. But when I spotted that small computer shop I could talk with the owner without a problem. After leaving school 1988 there was no opportunity to exercise English. That changed 1996 when I got my first internet. I think the package came with a 30 day trial version of Netscape's Navigator in English. So I had to learn what the difference between "connection refused" and otherwise "rejected" is. And many other terms of course. I created my first web page and soon people from all over the world, mainly the US, made contact, and I am back into English since then. :-) I also learned French at school. But after 1988 never practiced so I'm not really able to communicate in French. -- Andreas PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0
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| From | Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <m2im7kklpq.fsf@athena.moeding.net> |
| In reply to | #216528 |
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: > When I got my Amiga 500 in 1989 it had a German manual, but the > translation for "bit planes" (if it even was translated; can't remember) > was still confusing. At university one of the operating system lecture books was a German translation; I think it might have been "Operating System Principles" by Per Brinch Hansen. It used a translation for every technical term: "What's a 'Keller'? Ah, he's talking about a stack...". Very difficult to understand if you're used to the English terms. Also the German localized error messages in early AIX were not helpful... -- Stefan
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <i7alfdFhqk0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #216530 |
On 2021-01-26, Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > > At university one of the operating system lecture books was a German > translation; I think it might have been "Operating System Principles" by Per > Brinch Hansen. > > It used a translation for every technical term: "What's a 'Keller'? Ah, he's > talking about a stack...". Very difficult to understand if you're used to the > English terms. > > Also the German localized error messages in early AIX were not helpful... Certainly my experience is that IT people loathe translated software (assuming the original was English, that is), and translated documentation even moreso. It wouldn't surprise me if this is the case everywhere on the planet. Niklas -- "Some people think that noise abatement should be a higher priority for ATC. I say safety is noise abatement. You have no idea how much noise it makes to have a 737 fall out of the sky after an accident." -- anon. air traffic controller
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| From | Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <m2eei7lrga.fsf@athena.moeding.net> |
| In reply to | #216535 |
Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: > Certainly my experience is that IT people loathe translated software > (assuming the original was English, that is), and translated > documentation even moreso. It wouldn't surprise me if this is the case > everywhere on the planet. Maybe it is twofold. Beginners may love to use the localized version because it's easier for them. Later on they learn that posting English error messages on UseNet/IRC/DiscussionBoard or even Google has a higher chance of getting help. -- Stefan
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| From | Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <87im7jmh5g.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
| In reply to | #216536 |
=?utf-8?Q?Stefan_M=C3=B6ding?= <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> writes:
> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes:
>
>> Certainly my experience is that IT people loathe translated software
>> (assuming the original was English, that is), and translated
>> documentation even moreso. It wouldn't surprise me if this is the case
>> everywhere on the planet.
>
> Maybe it is twofold. Beginners may love to use the localized
> version because it's easier for them. Later on they learn that
> posting English error messages on UseNet/IRC/DiscussionBoard or even
> Google has a higher chance of getting help.
Years ago, there was a sys admin in Niu Gini who posted to
news.admin.net-abuse.email in Tok Pisin. Never posted in English so
it remained a mystery what h{is,er} English skills might have been.
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <875z3jc9n9.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216530 |
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:59:29 +0100, Stefan Möding wrote: > > Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: > >> When I got my Amiga 500 in 1989 it had a German manual, but the >> translation for "bit planes" (if it even was translated; can't remember) >> was still confusing. > > At university one of the operating system lecture books was a German > translation; I think it might have been "Operating System Principles" by Per > Brinch Hansen. > > It used a translation for every technical term: "What's a 'Keller'? Ah, he's > talking about a stack...". Very difficult to understand if you're used to the > English terms. I think until the 90s Germans were like French are still today, clinging on their language. Suppose today Germans broadly accept English terms in the IT. Funny thing many Germans (including me) might have even missed was the presentation of the Amiga 1986 in Frankfurt. At the beginning a dude from Commodore described the new machine and its features. It was so boring that many people fell asleep. :-) And although "Computer-Maus" (German for "computer mouse") should have been know by many people in Germany working with computers in 1986 (well I knew it back then), the guy said "Rollkugeleingabegerät", which could be translated into "rolling ball input device". Not kidding, the video exists on Youtube. > Also the German localized error messages in early AIX were not helpful... What was this message? -- Andreas Organization: https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
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| From | Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <m2wnvyri8p.fsf@athena.moeding.net> |
| In reply to | #216586 |
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: > I think until the 90s Germans were like French are still today, clinging > on their language. Suppose today Germans broadly accept English terms in > the IT. I grew up in Germany near the Dutch and Belgian borders. In the 80's that increased the number of available TV stations from 3 (German) channels to 7 or 8. Ca. 1983 there was a French computer magazine on the Belgian television: not one familiar word (ordinateur => computer, octet => byte). >> Also the German localized error messages in early AIX were not helpful... > What was this message? It wasn't a single message. Every error message was translated. Years later a coworker always cited "Pfeife gebrochen" for "broken pipe" (which I'm quite sure wasn't a real error message in any German translation). -- Stefan
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <875z3ha9o4.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216593 |
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:44:54 +0100, Stefan Möding wrote: > > Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: > >> I think until the 90s Germans were like French are still today, clinging >> on their language. Suppose today Germans broadly accept English terms in >> the IT. > > I grew up in Germany near the Dutch and Belgian borders. In the 80's that > increased the number of available TV stations from 3 (German) channels to 7 or > 8. Ca. 1983 there was a French computer magazine on the Belgian television: > not one familiar word (ordinateur => computer, octet => byte). Reminds me that I lived on the other side in West-Germany. GDR TV gave us two more (propaganda) channels to the three from West-Germany (not propaganda ;-). Until the late 70s we had a black and white TV. When we got a colour TV the East-German channels stayed black and white. I always thought they cannot afford to make TV in colour. Only after Germany's reunification, when their program ended and what replaced with) West-German stations they transmitted in colour. The reason was that the GDR adopted the SÉCAM system like much of the Eastern Block. Of course France always had SÉCAM, they needed to be different from the rest of Western Europe. ;-) >>> Also the German localized error messages in early AIX were not helpful... > >> What was this message? > > It wasn't a single message. Every error message was translated. Years later > a coworker always cited "Pfeife gebrochen" for "broken pipe" (which I'm quite > sure wasn't a real error message in any German translation). Haha. I somewhere read the joke "Broken [crack] pipe" related to an error message. -- Andreas PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <i7fdveFfkreU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #216639 |
On 2021-01-28, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>
> The reason was that the GDR adopted the SÉCAM system like much of the
> Eastern Block. Of course France always had SÉCAM, they needed to be
> different from the rest of Western Europe. ;-)
Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with
that standard expanded it to:
System Essentially Contrary to the American Method
Niklas
--
When I first encountered Unix in 1974, my first reaction was "The guys
who wrote this system probably can't type."
-- Alfred Falk
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| From | Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <m2v9bhwf2x.fsf@athena.moeding.net> |
| In reply to | #216643 |
Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: > Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with > that standard expanded it to: > System Essentially Contrary to the American Method Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: Never The Same Color -- Stefan
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <2pf51gt04gnkcpqvih6cmaaauh70scrte1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #216644 |
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: > >> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >> that standard expanded it to: > >> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method > >Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: > > Never The Same Color It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV)
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <ruul3i$j8o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216647 |
On 28/01/2021 13:42, J. Clarke wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding > <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > >> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: >> >>> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >>> that standard expanded it to: >> >>> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method >> >> Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: >> >> Never The Same Color > > It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV) > Is the whole World now on MPEG2 coming via DVB? What a waste of time to have learnt by heart the colour sub-carriers, 4.4296875 for NTSC an 4.43361875 for PAL!
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <ruv0se02e2u@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #216648 |
On 2021-01-28, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 28/01/2021 13:42, J. Clarke wrote: > >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding >> <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >> >>> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: >>> >>>> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >>>> that standard expanded it to: >>> >>>> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method >>> >>> Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: >>> >>> Never The Same Color >> >> It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV) > > Is the whole World now on MPEG2 coming via DVB? > > What a waste of time to have learnt by heart the > colour sub-carriers, 4.4296875 for NTSC an > 4.43361875 for PAL! Waitaminit, what about 3.579545? (North American Amigas were clocked at exactly twice that frequency.) -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <87a6sssxhn.fsf@cluon.com> |
| In reply to | #216657 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > On 2021-01-28, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 28/01/2021 13:42, J. Clarke wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding >>> <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: >>>> >>>>> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >>>>> that standard expanded it to: >>>> >>>>> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method >>>> >>>> Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: >>>> >>>> Never The Same Color >>> >>> It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV) >> >> Is the whole World now on MPEG2 coming via DVB? >> >> What a waste of time to have learnt by heart the >> colour sub-carriers, 4.4296875 for NTSC an >> 4.43361875 for PAL! > > Waitaminit, what about 3.579545? > (North American Amigas were clocked at exactly twice that frequency.) You can always count on someone to take the bait when a troll crawls out of the killfile and purposefully posts misinformation. The world thanks you for giving the idiot more exposure :-P
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <ruv5gc$oqs$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216659 |
On 28/01/2021 18:54, lawrence wrote: > You can always count on someone to take the bait when a troll crawls out > of the killfile and purposefully posts misinformation. > > The world thanks you for giving the idiot more exposure :-P > I don't know who you are, but there is no call for such gratuitous rudeness. Grow up, Sonny!
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <ruv5d8$oqs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216657 |
On 28/01/2021 18:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2021-01-28, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 28/01/2021 13:42, J. Clarke wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding >>> <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: >>>> >>>>> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >>>>> that standard expanded it to: >>>> >>>>> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method >>>> >>>> Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: >>>> >>>> Never The Same Color >>> >>> It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV) >> >> Is the whole World now on MPEG2 coming via DVB? >> >> What a waste of time to have learnt by heart the >> colour sub-carriers, 4.4296875 for NTSC an >> 4.43361875 for PAL! > > Waitaminit, what about 3.579545? > (North American Amigas were clocked at exactly twice that frequency.) > Oops! Yes! In USA, but in Brit was considered for 525 line NTSC
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <87ft2j5plo.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216647 |
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 08:42:23 -0500, J. Clarke wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding > <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > >>Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: >> >>> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >>> that standard expanded it to: >> >>> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method >> >>Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: >> >> Never The Same Color > > It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV) PAL, NTSC or SECAM have vanished today. -- Andreas PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0
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| From | Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> |
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| Date | 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <s0rggi$6kj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216707 |
Op 29-1-2021 om 23:45 schreef Andreas Kohlbach: > On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 08:42:23 -0500, J. Clarke wrote: >> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:06:30 +0100, Stefan Möding >> <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> wrote: >> >>> Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: >>> >>>> Supposedly, American engineers having to produce devices compatible with >>>> that standard expanded it to: >>> >>>> System Essentially Contrary to the American Method >>> >>> Yep, it's NTSC on the other side of the Atlantic: >>> >>> Never The Same Color >> >> It's not either of those anywhere anymore. (viewing on 4K TV) > > PAL, NTSC or SECAM have vanished today. > Only in Digital TV. Where there is analogue TV, they still are..... And I hope Pal still exists after the end of analogue TV :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal,_Andorra Rink
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <8735xqtxp0.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #217082 |
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:22:19 +0100, Rink wrote:
>
> Op 29-1-2021 om 23:45 schreef Andreas Kohlbach:
^^^^^^^
I did what? ;-)
Yes, I translated it and now know what it means.
>> PAL, NTSC or SECAM have vanished today.
>>
>
> Only in Digital TV.
> Where there is analogue TV, they still are.....
Recently watched a video on Youtube of somebody in the northern US
hunting for the last analog TV stations in his area. Also mentioning they
shut it down on July 13th 2021.
> And I hope Pal still exists after the end of analogue TV
> :-)
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal,_Andorra
Heh. :-)
And pen PALs. Although electronic pencils are used today.
--
Andreas
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