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| Started by | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2020-09-07 19:51 -0400 |
| Last post | 2020-09-08 19:59 -0400 |
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Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 19:51 -0400
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 21:03 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-07 18:16 -0700
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 21:50 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 22:12 -0400
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 23:51 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-12 17:40 -0400
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-12 18:04 -0400
Re: Keyboards again drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-09-08 13:19 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 14:48 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:26 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 14:48 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 17:52 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-09 00:51 +0100
Re: Keyboards again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-09 17:42 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-09 19:50 +0100
Re: Keyboards again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-09 19:49 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-09 21:18 +0100
Re: Keyboards again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-10 15:44 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Freddy1X <freddy1X@indyX.netX> - 2020-09-08 21:59 -0400
Re: Keyboards again gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-09 11:10 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-09 15:27 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-10 17:47 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-11 01:26 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-12 06:20 +0000
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-12 12:27 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-12 13:07 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-12 20:15 -0400
Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-10-03 21:57 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-03 22:11 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-03 22:00 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-03 19:26 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-04 09:02 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-04 12:22 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-04 16:42 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-04 22:39 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-04 22:06 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-04 08:30 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) the "Swampster" <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-10-06 12:13 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-04 14:30 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-04 10:06 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-04 11:17 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-04 22:30 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-04 19:13 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-04 19:07 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-05 01:23 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-05 09:54 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 05:34 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-05 13:47 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 11:22 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-05 11:03 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 11:10 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-05 18:27 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-05 20:03 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 18:20 -0400
Re: Barcodes Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 19:05 -0400
Re: Barcodes J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 23:57 -0400
Re: Barcodes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-06 15:30 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 16:52 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 23:54 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-05 21:53 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-06 07:33 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-05 11:21 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-04 22:38 -0500
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-04 21:19 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-10-05 03:04 -0500
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-05 11:01 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 12:50 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-05 05:34 -0700
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-05 10:06 -0500
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-06 21:16 +0000
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-07 06:38 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-05 12:36 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-05 08:00 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-04 22:28 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-04 19:06 -0400
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-05 12:33 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-05 08:24 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-12 20:02 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-13 07:05 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-13 09:24 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-13 09:38 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-13 19:20 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-13 23:54 +0000
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-15 18:47 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-15 18:35 -0400
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-15 18:44 +0000
Re: Keyboards again gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-15 20:29 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-15 21:21 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-15 18:49 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-16 07:56 +0100
Re: Keyboards again gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-16 10:16 +0100
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-16 09:55 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 11:25 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-16 17:42 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-16 18:03 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 13:57 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-16 19:08 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 16:48 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-17 06:55 +0100
Re: Keyboards again usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-16 21:03 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 16:53 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-16 21:55 +0000
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-17 07:20 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 10:06 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 11:15 -0400
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 12:37 -0500
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-17 20:07 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-18 10:01 -0500
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-18 16:45 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-18 11:22 -0700
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-17 19:59 +0000
Re: Keyboards again usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-19 23:25 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-20 12:03 +0100
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-20 14:27 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-20 16:08 +0100
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-20 10:52 -0500
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-20 14:57 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-21 09:09 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-21 09:07 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-21 14:32 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-21 13:37 +0000
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-22 12:45 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-22 12:49 +0000
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-22 12:37 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-22 13:38 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-22 09:31 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-22 15:39 -0700
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-22 20:55 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-22 19:39 -0700
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-23 00:13 -0400
Re: Keyboards again maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-23 10:52 +0000
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-20 14:48 -0400
Re: Keyboards again usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-21 19:35 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-22 09:22 -0500
Re: Keyboards again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-13 15:34 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-13 17:54 -0300
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-13 10:53 -0500
Re: the dangers of socialism, not Keyboards again John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-13 17:50 +0000
Re: the dangers of socialism, not Keyboards again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-09-13 19:35 +0100
Re: the dangers of socialism, not Keyboards again John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-13 19:33 +0000
Re: the dangers of socialism, not Keyboards again Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2020-09-14 06:02 +0000
Re: the dangers of socialism, not Keyboards again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-09-14 07:46 +0100
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-13 15:01 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-13 19:25 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-13 09:37 +0000
Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-10-03 22:00 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-04 14:38 +0100
Re: Barcodes (Was: Keyboards again) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-10-04 22:36 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-09-10 10:39 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-09 06:02 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-09 14:14 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 10:18 -0400
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 14:49 -0500
Re: Keyboards again mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2020-09-09 20:36 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-09 18:51 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-10 16:24 +0000
Re: Keyboards again JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 14:58 -0500
Re: Keyboards again Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-10 17:12 +0100
Re: Keyboards again Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-10 17:49 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-07 18:09 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-07 18:14 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 22:19 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-07 20:14 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-07 20:32 -0700
Re: Keyboards again Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-08 09:44 +0000
Re: Keyboards again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-09-08 10:49 +0100
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 07:17 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 08:02 -0400
Re: Keyboards again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 18:33 -0400
Re: Keyboards again Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 19:59 -0400
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| From | usenet@only.tnx (Questor) |
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| Date | 2020-09-16 21:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5f627d88.11268923@news.dslextreme.com> |
| In reply to | #214300 |
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:49:14 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >>On 15/09/2020 19:44, maus wrote: >>>On 2020-09-13, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >>>>On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:05:44 +0000, Thomas Koenig wrote: >>>> >>>>>From what I've read, ALDI pays more than other supermarkets (whatever >>>>>that means), but they have far fewer people who are expected to do all >>>>>jobs, so their overall labor costs are lower. >>>> >>>>My son is a deputy manager for Aldi, and they do pay better than other >>>>supermarkets. >>> >>>My daughter interviewed for Lidl (same difference, AFAIK) and they reputably >>>pay well, but work hard. In the stores, if comething needs doing, anyone handy >>>does it. Good idea, I think. >>> >> >>In my local Lidl, if there are queues at the tills, even the >>store manager will man another checkout. >> >>In my local Sainsburys, if there are queues at the tills, the >>supervisors just carry on doing important things such as >>shuffling their pencils. >Nothing annoys me more than to have a big line waiting for one cashier >while one or two more employees are behind the counter doing whatever, that >they apparently can't interrupt to serve customers. Some places will have >people jump in when necessary, and I always think better of them for it. > >I know nothing about running a store, but it seems to me that waiting on >customers should have priority over other tasks, which can be done when >you're not busy. IOW, "I'm completely ignorant, but I'll spout off anyway" Never mind compulsary military service -- I think every citizen should be required to work for a few months as a retail clerk or in a similar service capacity, preferably during a period that includes the holiday season. Now THAT would be a good education for a lot of people. You're right, you know nothing about running a store. There are many tasks that employees must perform besides waiting on customers, and they are expected to complete them during their shift, no excuses. One thing about working in a retail environment: you are CONSTANTLY being interrupted. It can be difficult to complete any mildly complicated task or even to remember where you left off before getting pulled away to do something else. You have no idea what those employees behind the counter are doing, what priority their management has assigned to their tasks, whether one of them might be on their break, or showing the other how to do something. It might even be a management decision to have only X checkouts open, or a certain number of employees on the floor despite waiting customers, because they have limited personnel and other things must be done, so having customers endure a short wait is an acceptable trade-off. You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention whenever you walk into a store.
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-16 16:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <h325mf94f9d681rp9kmvn8amgn35q5i61e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #214332 |
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 21:03:14 GMT, usenet@only.tnx (Questor) wrote: >On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:49:14 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>On 15/09/2020 19:44, maus wrote: >>>>On 2020-09-13, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >>>>>On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:05:44 +0000, Thomas Koenig wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>From what I've read, ALDI pays more than other supermarkets (whatever >>>>>>that means), but they have far fewer people who are expected to do all >>>>>>jobs, so their overall labor costs are lower. >>>>> >>>>>My son is a deputy manager for Aldi, and they do pay better than other >>>>>supermarkets. >>>> >>>>My daughter interviewed for Lidl (same difference, AFAIK) and they reputably >>>>pay well, but work hard. In the stores, if comething needs doing, anyone handy >>>>does it. Good idea, I think. >>>> >>> >>>In my local Lidl, if there are queues at the tills, even the >>>store manager will man another checkout. >>> >>>In my local Sainsburys, if there are queues at the tills, the >>>supervisors just carry on doing important things such as >>>shuffling their pencils. > > >>Nothing annoys me more than to have a big line waiting for one cashier >>while one or two more employees are behind the counter doing whatever, that >>they apparently can't interrupt to serve customers. Some places will have >>people jump in when necessary, and I always think better of them for it. >> >>I know nothing about running a store, but it seems to me that waiting on >>customers should have priority over other tasks, which can be done when >>you're not busy. > >IOW, "I'm completely ignorant, but I'll spout off anyway" > > >Never mind compulsary military service -- I think every citizen should be >required to work for a few months as a retail clerk or in a similar service >capacity, preferably during a period that includes the holiday season. >Now THAT would be a good education for a lot of people. But I have worked behind the counter. The people I mentioned were goofing off. They weren't doing other tasks. I've run a cash register during a high school student lunch rush ( 100 plus students every 30 minutes for 2 hours) at a Burger Chef, been a part time janitor when most of the places I cleaned would not get out of the way ( they were just sitting there smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee ), repaired computers being interrupted by people who wanted me to stop working on that one, and fix their typically fictional problem with their computer. They just wanted someone to pester. I'm glad I'm retired and don't have to put up with that anymore. -- Jim
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2020-09-16 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hsfftlFc6v3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #214332 |
On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up
> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've
> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept
> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail
> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the
> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention
> whenever you walk into a store.
Hear, hear!
Niklas
--
Nowadays, I assume that the shinier something is, the more it sucks.
It's much quicker overall.
-- Lawns 'R' Us
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2020-09-17 07:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrm63ih.275.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #214332 |
On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: > > You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up > for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've > already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept > your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail > experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the > employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention > whenever you walk into a store. >a > >re cumpolsary militart service. > >No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >Bull****
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-17 10:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <epu6mfplg4faopjlnhcqdr2pbl0mshmljn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #214348 |
On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >> >> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up >> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've >> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept >> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail >> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the >> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention >> whenever you walk into a store. >>a >> >>re cumpolsary militart service. >> >>No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >>Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >>That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >>that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >>Bull**** During WW2 US criminals were given the choice of enlisting or going to prison; however, before war's end all US military organizations refused to take any more of them. -- Jim
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-17 11:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rjvuhr$i1h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #214355 |
JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: > On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>> >>> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up >>> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've >>> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept >>> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail >>> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the >>> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention >>> whenever you walk into a store. >>>a >>> >>>re cumpolsary militart service. >>> >>>No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >>>Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >>>That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >>>that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >>>Bull**** > > During WW2 US criminals were given the choice of enlisting or going to > prison; however, before war's end all US military organizations > refused to take any more of them. I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. -- Dan Espen
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-17 12:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3j77mfti26ddaajfdcl92na2gr0c4of141@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #214356 |
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:15:07 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>> >>>> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up >>>> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've >>>> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept >>>> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail >>>> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the >>>> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention >>>> whenever you walk into a store. >>>>a >>>> >>>>re cumpolsary militart service. >>>> >>>>No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >>>>Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >>>>That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >>>>that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >>>>Bull**** >> >> During WW2 US criminals were given the choice of enlisting or going to >> prison; however, before war's end all US military organizations >> refused to take any more of them. > >I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. > >He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. I heard of it, but it may or may not have been as widespread as it was before 1944. One high school buddy who did 4 tours in Viet Nam, and a relative who was there several times, didn't mention it to me. Of course, they may have felt it was something they didn't want to talk about. -- Jim
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2020-09-17 20:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrm7gfr.hoc.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #214359 |
On 2020-09-17, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:15:07 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > wrote: >>JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>>> > > I heard of it, but it may or may not have been as widespread as it was > before 1944. One high school buddy who did 4 tours in Viet Nam, and a > relative who was there several times, didn't mention it to me. Of > course, they may have felt it was something they didn't want to talk > about. > During the US Civil war, people conscripted for North or South could put a hired Irishman in their place, Morgan the Bankster did it and laughed later about the 'Other' Morgan. People in Ireland were still starving after the Famine, and would do anything to get to the US or CSA. (I was told that once by an elderly relative.)
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-18 10:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8ti9mfh0mv2s8dg7fhinam6m9gappuu6sd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #214363 |
On 17 Sep 2020 20:07:23 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >On 2020-09-17, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:15:07 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> I heard of it, but it may or may not have been as widespread as it was >> before 1944. One high school buddy who did 4 tours in Viet Nam, and a >> relative who was there several times, didn't mention it to me. Of >> course, they may have felt it was something they didn't want to talk >> about. >> >During the US Civil war, people conscripted for North or South could >put a hired Irishman in their place, Morgan the Bankster did it and >laughed later about the 'Other' Morgan. People in Ireland were still >starving after the Famine, and would do anything to get to the US or >CSA. > >(I was told that once by an elderly relative.) And there was the Irish Brigade fielded by the Union. -- Jim
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2020-09-18 16:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrm9p26.bvq.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #214370 |
On 2020-09-18, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: > On 17 Sep 2020 20:07:23 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>On 2020-09-17, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:15:07 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>>>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>> I heard of it, but it may or may not have been as widespread as it was >>> before 1944. One high school buddy who did 4 tours in Viet Nam, and a >>> relative who was there several times, didn't mention it to me. Of >>> course, they may have felt it was something they didn't want to talk >>> about. >>> >>During the US Civil war, people conscripted for North or South could >>put a hired Irishman in their place, Morgan the Bankster did it and >>laughed later about the 'Other' Morgan. People in Ireland were still >>starving after the Famine, and would do anything to get to the US or >>CSA. >> >>(I was told that once by an elderly relative.) > > And there was the Irish Brigade fielded by the Union. > > and another serving with the Confederates. >
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-18 11:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1581547798.622145923.305408.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #214373 |
maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: > On 2020-09-18, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 17 Sep 2020 20:07:23 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>> On 2020-09-17, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:15:07 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> I heard of it, but it may or may not have been as widespread as it was >>>> before 1944. One high school buddy who did 4 tours in Viet Nam, and a >>>> relative who was there several times, didn't mention it to me. Of >>>> course, they may have felt it was something they didn't want to talk >>>> about. >>>> >>> During the US Civil war, people conscripted for North or South could >>> put a hired Irishman in their place, Morgan the Bankster did it and >>> laughed later about the 'Other' Morgan. People in Ireland were still >>> starving after the Famine, and would do anything to get to the US or >>> CSA. >>> >>> (I was told that once by an elderly relative.) >> >> And there was the Irish Brigade fielded by the Union. >> >> and another serving with the Confederates. >> > Irish had been fighting in Ireland for centuries, they must have been getting pretty good at it. Actually, considering the discrimination against the Irish at the time, the military must have looked like a pretty good deal. -- Pete
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2020-09-17 19:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrm7g0v.hoc.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #214356 |
On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>> >>>> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up >>>> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've >>>> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept >>>> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail >>>> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the >>>> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention >>>> whenever you walk into a store. >>>>a >>>> >>>>re cumpolsary militart service. >>>> >>>>No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >>>>Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >>>>That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >>>>that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >>>>Bull**** >> >> During WW2 US criminals were given the choice of enlisting or going to >> prison; however, before war's end all US military organizations >> refused to take any more of them. > > I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him > the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. > > He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one > case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. > > >depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference,
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| From | usenet@only.tnx (Questor) |
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| Date | 2020-09-19 23:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5f669381.3547230@news.dslextreme.com> |
| In reply to | #214362 |
On 17 Sep 2020 19:59:27 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >> JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: >>> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>On 2020-09-16, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>>> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up >>>>> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've >>>>> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept >>>>> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail >>>>> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the >>>>> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention >>>>> whenever you walk into a store. >>>>>a >>>>> >>>>>re cumpolsary militart service. >>>>> >>>>>No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >>>>>Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >>>>>That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >>>>>that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >>>>>Bull**** >>> >>> During WW2 US criminals were given the choice of enlisting or going to >>> prison; however, before war's end all US military organizations >>> refused to take any more of them. >> >> I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >> the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. >> >> He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >> case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. > >depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference, Of course. The hash smoker would be treated more harshly; the mugger would get a slap on the wrist.
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| From | Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-09-20 12:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rk7cti$1v5g$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #214421 |
On 09/20/20 00:25, Questor wrote: > On 17 Sep 2020 19:59:27 GMT, maus<maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >> On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen<dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> JimP<chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes: >>>> On 17 Sep 2020 07:20:49 GMT, maus<maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>> On 2020-09-16, Questor<usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>>>>> You really want to learn something about how "the other half" lives? Sign up >>>>>> for a holiday retail job at any of the big-name stores in your area. They've >>>>>> already starting their seasonal hiring campaigns, so they're ready to accept >>>>>> your application and their standards are quite relaxed. If you had that retail >>>>>> experience, I think you'd be a lot more patient and understanding about the >>>>>> employees, instead of thinking you should be the absolute center of attention >>>>>> whenever you walk into a store. >>>>>> a >>>>>> >>>>>> re cumpolsary militart service. >>>>>> >>>>>> No Military anywhere wamts to enlist 'damaged' young people into their >>>>>> Army. The history of such units in any Army is disastrous, from the units >>>>>> That the German Army used in Byelorussia during the war, to the US units >>>>>> that committed the massacre at MyLai. Films like 'the Dirty Dozen' are >>>>>> Bull**** >>>> >>>> During WW2 US criminals were given the choice of enlisting or going to >>>> prison; however, before war's end all US military organizations >>>> refused to take any more of them. >>> >>> I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >>> the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. >>> >>> He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >>> case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. >> >> depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >> a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference, > > Of course. The hash smoker would be treated more harshly; the mugger would get > a slap on the wrist. > The UK Army have a program for young offenders which has been very successful, from what i've read. Turning boys into men, through training in self discipline, hard work, self reliance and no excuses. Enuf of the bo**ocks, in fact :-). Could do with a bit more of such attitudes, or isn't that fashionable enough any more ?... Chris
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2020-09-20 14:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrmepln.7mh.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #214423 |
On 2020-09-20, Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote: > On 09/20/20 00:25, Questor wrote: >> On 17 Sep 2020 19:59:27 GMT, maus<maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>> On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen<dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >>>> the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. >>>> >>>> He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >>>> case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. >>> >>> depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >>> a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference, >> >> Of course. The hash smoker would be treated more harshly; the mugger would get >> a slap on the wrist. >> Where? Our police here , (.ie) usual ignore the smokers. but check and and watch wholesalers. They are easily spotted, > > The UK Army have a program for young offenders which has been very > successful, from what i've read. Turning boys into men, through > training in self discipline, hard work, self reliance and no excuses. > Enuf of the bo**ocks, in fact :-). > > Could do with a bit more of such attitudes, or isn't that fashionable > enough any more ?... > > Chris > I think it is like .1, multiply by a million numbers just below 1 (say, .9999999) and you go down, multily by above 1, (say 1.00000000001). It depends on the individual It depends. One way to spot an exsoldier is look for someone who is washed, shaved, and ready about 6.00 am. Many get lost when they retire and have no inspections.
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| From | Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-09-20 16:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rk7r8o$34n$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #214425 |
On 09/20/20 15:27, maus wrote: > On 2020-09-20, Chris<xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote: >> On 09/20/20 00:25, Questor wrote: >>> On 17 Sep 2020 19:59:27 GMT, maus<maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>> On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen<dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >>>>> the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. >>>>> >>>>> He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >>>>> case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. >>>> >>>> depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >>>> a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference, >>> >>> Of course. The hash smoker would be treated more harshly; the mugger would get >>> a slap on the wrist. >>> > > Where? Our police here , (.ie) usual ignore the smokers. but check and > and watch wholesalers. They are easily spotted, > >> >> The UK Army have a program for young offenders which has been very >> successful, from what i've read. Turning boys into men, through >> training in self discipline, hard work, self reliance and no excuses. >> Enuf of the bo**ocks, in fact :-). >> >> Could do with a bit more of such attitudes, or isn't that fashionable >> enough any more ?... >> >> Chris >> > > I think it is like .1, multiply by a million numbers just below 1 (say, > .9999999) and you go down, multily by above 1, (say 1.00000000001). It > depends on the individual > > It depends. One way to spot an exsoldier is look for someone who is > washed, shaved, and ready about 6.00 am. Many get lost when they retire > and have no inspections. So much in life is dependent on self respect and knowing who you are. Perhaps the services life does suit some because it can provide the sort of grounding and example that many people were denied as children. So many broken families, with the kids often the greatest casualties, no surprise that some go off the rails. As for ex soldiers, some do well in management, but many are difficult because they are direct and don't suffer fools gladly. Not the most endearing trait in the overly pc and woke world... Chris whereas may ex offenders have found themselves in trouble be
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-20 10:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5kuemf9ms6ub6sh39vnb2botbav73s4jum@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #214426 |
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:08:10 +0100, Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote: >On 09/20/20 15:27, maus wrote: >> On 2020-09-20, Chris<xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote: >>> On 09/20/20 00:25, Questor wrote: >>>> On 17 Sep 2020 19:59:27 GMT, maus<maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>> On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen<dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >>>>>> the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. >>>>>> >>>>>> He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >>>>>> case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. >>>>> >>>>> depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >>>>> a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference, >>>> >>>> Of course. The hash smoker would be treated more harshly; the mugger would get >>>> a slap on the wrist. >>>> >> >> Where? Our police here , (.ie) usual ignore the smokers. but check and >> and watch wholesalers. They are easily spotted, >> >>> >>> The UK Army have a program for young offenders which has been very >>> successful, from what i've read. Turning boys into men, through >>> training in self discipline, hard work, self reliance and no excuses. >>> Enuf of the bo**ocks, in fact :-). >>> >>> Could do with a bit more of such attitudes, or isn't that fashionable >>> enough any more ?... >>> >>> Chris >>> >> >> I think it is like .1, multiply by a million numbers just below 1 (say, >> .9999999) and you go down, multily by above 1, (say 1.00000000001). It >> depends on the individual >> >> It depends. One way to spot an exsoldier is look for someone who is >> washed, shaved, and ready about 6.00 am. Many get lost when they retire >> and have no inspections. > >So much in life is dependent on self respect and knowing who you are. >Perhaps the services life does suit some because it can provide the >sort of grounding and example that many people were denied as children. >So many broken families, with the kids often the greatest casualties, >no surprise that some go off the rails. > >As for ex soldiers, some do well in management, but many are difficult >because they are direct and don't suffer fools gladly. Not the most >endearing trait in the overly pc and woke world... I had little tolerance for idiocy before I volunteered. Less after my contract expired. Well, Reduction in Forces, after Viet Nam. Some jobs I could point it out, most not. >Chris > > > >whereas may ex offenders >have found themselves in trouble be Was there for more ? -- Jim
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-20 14:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <c09fmfdgj28gl8a053p15156ffrat2mptc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #214426 |
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:08:10 +0100, Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote: >On 09/20/20 15:27, maus wrote: >> On 2020-09-20, Chris<xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote: >>> On 09/20/20 00:25, Questor wrote: >>>> On 17 Sep 2020 19:59:27 GMT, maus<maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >>>>> On 2020-09-17, Dan Espen<dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> I had a friend that got in some trouble in NYC and the judge gave him >>>>>> the choice of enlisting for Vietnam or going to jail. >>>>>> >>>>>> He should have gone to jail, he was never the same. So in at least one >>>>>> case they were still doing that kind of thing in the 60s-70s. >>>>> >>>>> depemds on tha charge. Smoking a little hash would be different from mugging >>>>> a little old lady. A Humane judge would know the difference, >>>> >>>> Of course. The hash smoker would be treated more harshly; the mugger would get >>>> a slap on the wrist. >>>> >> >> Where? Our police here , (.ie) usual ignore the smokers. but check and >> and watch wholesalers. They are easily spotted, >> >>> >>> The UK Army have a program for young offenders which has been very >>> successful, from what i've read. Turning boys into men, through >>> training in self discipline, hard work, self reliance and no excuses. >>> Enuf of the bo**ocks, in fact :-). >>> >>> Could do with a bit more of such attitudes, or isn't that fashionable >>> enough any more ?... >>> >>> Chris >>> >> >> I think it is like .1, multiply by a million numbers just below 1 (say, >> .9999999) and you go down, multily by above 1, (say 1.00000000001). It >> depends on the individual >> >> It depends. One way to spot an exsoldier is look for someone who is >> washed, shaved, and ready about 6.00 am. Many get lost when they retire >> and have no inspections. > >So much in life is dependent on self respect and knowing who you are. >Perhaps the services life does suit some because it can provide the >sort of grounding and example that many people were denied as children. >So many broken families, with the kids often the greatest casualties, >no surprise that some go off the rails. > >As for ex soldiers, some do well in management, but many are difficult >because they are direct and don't suffer fools gladly. Not the most >endearing trait in the overly pc and woke world... Depends on what they did in the service. I worked for a guy who never went above PFC. The engineers under him understood that you hever ask him a question, you just try to read his mind, because apparently he got chewed out by a sergeant once for asking a question and he thought that that was what a leader was supposed to do, chew people out for asking question. The idiot would deliberately sabotage bids because he thought the potential production orders were "too small".
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2020-09-21 09:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hsr8udFpulcU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #214433 |
On 2020-09-20, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> Depends on what they did in the service. I worked for a guy who never
> went above PFC. The engineers under him understood that you hever ask
> him a question, you just try to read his mind, because apparently he
> got chewed out by a sergeant once for asking a question and he thought
> that that was what a leader was supposed to do, chew people out for
> asking question.
>
> The idiot would deliberately sabotage bids because he thought the
> potential production orders were "too small".
Wow. I don't think I'd have lasted more than a few days.
Niklas
--
Which brings up an important BOFHly question: How do you go about pissing on the
grave of someone whose ashes were buried at sea? Taking a whiz off the end of
the pier just isn't satisfying enough.
-- Brian Kantor
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2020-09-21 09:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hsr8qhFpulcU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #214426 |
On 2020-09-20, Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/20/20 15:27, maus wrote:
>> I think it is like .1, multiply by a million numbers just below 1 (say,
>> .9999999) and you go down, multily by above 1, (say 1.00000000001). It
>> depends on the individual
>>
>> It depends. One way to spot an exsoldier is look for someone who is
>> washed, shaved, and ready about 6.00 am. Many get lost when they retire
>> and have no inspections.
>
> So much in life is dependent on self respect and knowing who you are.
> Perhaps the services life does suit some because it can provide the
> sort of grounding and example that many people were denied as children.
> So many broken families, with the kids often the greatest casualties,
> no surprise that some go off the rails.
>
> As for ex soldiers, some do well in management, but many are difficult
> because they are direct and don't suffer fools gladly. Not the most
> endearing trait in the overly pc and woke world...
I sometimes wonder where I'd have been in life if I'd completed
mandatory military service. Here (.se) it was indeed mandatory when I
turned 18 (late 90s), but in reality, budget cuts made them only draft
maybe 10% of people, focusing on those most motivated. In 1998, along
with a busload (coachload?) of other young men, many of them classmates
from high school, I went to a naval base for a regime of testing. They
were not terribly interested in me, sending me home even during the
first day (for most, it was a two-day affair).
My father was quite insistent that I attend, which is ironic since he
himself had not handled it well. He basically badgered the company
psychologist until he was finally given a medical discharge, based on
being extremely uncomfortable handling tools of murder.
Mandatory military service was later abolished, but is now back in an
extremely "soft" version, for both genders this time. The number they're
inducting is likely well below the number of young'uns wanting to
volunteer in the first place. As I understand it, they send out a form
to everyone turning 18, asking whether they would be motivated to serve.
If you say no, you most likely won't be drafted, unless they can't fill
their quota.
Niklas
--
Eels are not vehicles; they are pedestrians to a first approximation.
-- Roger Burton West
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