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History--customer service training film--party lines

Started byhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
First post2016-02-13 10:13 -0800
Last post2016-02-14 17:21 -0800
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  History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 10:13 -0800
    Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-13 13:29 -0600
      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-13 17:09 -0400
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 14:23 -0800
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-02-14 15:50 -0500
          Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 17:27 -0800
            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-15 09:45 +0000
      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 14:20 -0800
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-02-13 14:33 -0800
    Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-02-13 14:02 -0800
      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-02-13 14:28 -0800
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 18:13 -0800
      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 14:29 -0800
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-14 00:53 +0000
      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-13 19:03 -0600
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 21:30 -0500
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-13 21:40 -0500
          Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 19:30 -0800
            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 22:33 -0600
              Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-14 00:24 -0500
                Re: History--customer service training film--party lines JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:57 -0600
            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-14 00:05 -0500
              Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 21:21 -0800
                Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 17:30 +1100
                  Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 02:33 -0500
                  Re: History--customer service training film--party lines JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 13:00 -0600
                    Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 07:28 +1100
                    Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-14 20:14 +0100
                      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 16:33 -0600
                    Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 17:23 -0800
                      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-15 10:45 +0000
                        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-15 12:48 +0000
                        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 05:11 +1100
                      Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 18:52 -0700
                        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-18 11:37 -0600
                          Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-18 20:57 -0800
                            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-18 21:11 -0800
                              Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-18 21:15 -0800
                            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 01:04 -0600
                              Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:26 +1100
        Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 18:39 -0800
          Re: History--customer service training film--party lines Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-13 22:15 -0600
          Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2016-02-14 07:32 -0500
            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-14 07:13 -0600
            Re: History--customer service training film--party lines hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 17:21 -0800

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#159305

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-13 18:39 -0800
Message-ID<7fe09eea-c608-4b2e-a225-d49f6b2426bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#159295
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:


> I suspect most of us tossed/junked/cannibalized stuff 50 years ago 
> that would have been worth a nice sum today. But the trick is to know 
> exactly which stuff that is in advance, have a 50 year horizon to plan 
> for (I certainly don't), and have ample storage space to stash it in. 
> I certainly destroyed a large number of cathedral style radios (my 
> compatriots generically called them "Philco junk sets") for the 
> handful of parts that might still be useful.

At one time, the classic rotary dial telephone sets had some value,
but I don't think as much today.  They certainly will work, but 
many people no longer have a classic landline which is required.

I had one at work. No one cared.

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#159319

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-02-13 22:15 -0600
Message-ID<n9outm$ng8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#159305
On 2/13/2016 8:39 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>
>> I suspect most of us tossed/junked/cannibalized stuff 50 years ago
>> that would have been worth a nice sum today. But the trick is to know
>> exactly which stuff that is in advance, have a 50 year horizon to plan
>> for (I certainly don't), and have ample storage space to stash it in.
>> I certainly destroyed a large number of cathedral style radios (my
>> compatriots generically called them "Philco junk sets") for the
>> handful of parts that might still be useful.
>
> At one time, the classic rotary dial telephone sets had some value,
> but I don't think as much today.  They certainly will work, but
> many people no longer have a classic landline which is required.
>
> I had one at work. No one cared.

Maybe you need to wait another 50 years.

But maybe it will be another 500 years before anyone cares. That's the 
problem.

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#159339

From"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net>
Date2016-02-14 07:32 -0500
Message-ID<n9ps9101o5h@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#159305
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> Dave Garland wrote:

> At one time, the classic rotary dial telephone sets had some value,
> but I don't think as much today.  They certainly will work, but
> many people no longer have a classic landline which is required.

Data point: the FiOS service at my house - much to my surprise - works quite 
well with my old pulse-dial lineman's set.

Joe 

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#159340

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-14 07:13 -0600
Message-ID<dibcr8Fcqr8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#159339
"Joe Morris" wrote:

> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>> Dave Garland wrote:
>
>> At one time, the classic rotary dial telephone sets had some value,
>> but I don't think as much today.  They certainly will work, but
>> many people no longer have a classic landline which is required.
>
> Data point: the FiOS service at my house - much to my surprise - works 
> quite well with my old pulse-dial lineman's set.

Speaking of the lineman's set. I always wanted a list of the 'magic" numbers 
a lineman had and what all he could do.  I especially wanted the number that 
did a call-back to test my ringer.

Yesterday I mistakenly punched in the wrong channel number on the remote for 
my Comcast powered TV and ended up with a backdoor into Comcast. My guess is 
that if I could recall those first few digits I punched I could explore, by 
trial and error, a lot of the inner workings of Comcast simply by adding 
digits at random.  It seems to me that someone who punched in 000 to 999 
would find the backdoor. 

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#159401

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-14 17:21 -0800
Message-ID<6684fe95-ad04-49fa-a500-67d5af92bade@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#159339
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 7:33:57 AM UTC-5, Joe Morris wrote:

> Data point: the FiOS service at my house - much to my surprise - works quite 
> well with my old pulse-dial lineman's set.

I have no idea how modern digital telephone sets transmit control
signals.  But FIOS uses regular telephone sets.  One aspect that has
not gone away is the "flash", where the user depresses the hookswitch
for half a second to take a second call (call waiting) or initiate a
third call (3-way calling).  The FIOS equipment has to translate the
hookswitch flash (an interruption in the line) to a signal.  Since
it has to handle that, it can handle dial pulses as well.

Also, that's why I don't think modern telco switches have any trouble
handling rotary pulse signals--they still have to handle hookswitch
pulses, and all the software for counting dial pulses exists.


However, at some point, I suspect we're gonna see a revolution in
what traditional landline service is offered.  They're talking about
making big changes, and there are many accusations that the telco's 
aren't maintaining their legacy network.

What I don't understand is that today many areas don't have FIOS service.
Does the telco plan to just write them off?

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