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| Started by | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| First post | 2015-10-11 13:48 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-10-12 19:56 +0000 |
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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-11 13:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-11 14:45 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-11 10:52 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 22:18 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 20:05 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 05:26 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:59 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:19 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:27 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 13:40 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 23:17 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:02 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:16 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 17:39 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-13 12:51 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:41 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:35 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 22:24 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:32 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:25 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-15 20:07 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-16 10:46 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 08:58 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:52 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-12 08:49 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:39 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 19:03 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:44 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:24 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:51 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-12 20:34 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-13 07:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 09:01 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 09:43 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 15:19 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 10:21 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-12 15:14 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:38 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:17 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:03 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:26 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:47 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:27 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-16 07:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:55 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 18:14 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:35 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-17 07:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 13:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:14 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-20 07:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 16:47 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-16 14:26 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-14 13:00 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:00 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:20 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:44 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-16 18:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-17 15:58 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-18 17:37 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:12 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 13:24 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:21 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-19 15:28 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:30 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:31 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 09:04 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:54 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:59 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:22 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 20:42 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:40 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 22:39 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 18:08 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:15 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:17 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:12 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:22 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 20:06 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:38 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-16 22:33 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:38 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:40 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-12 13:48 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:04 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:25 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 11:30 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:38 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:51 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:16 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:14 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:19 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 00:17 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:33 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:00 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-13 07:46 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 11:42 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:53 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 20:08 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:17 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:44 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:19 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-19 20:45 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:57 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:16 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-14 16:20 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:33 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 07:03 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-15 23:04 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 11:18 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 19:06 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 18:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 21:31 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:45 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-17 06:47 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 05:00 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 15:23 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:49 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:47 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:54 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:29 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 14:42 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 11:21 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:32 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-13 10:00 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-14 13:24 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 17:35 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 18:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:42 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:20 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-15 06:49 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:40 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:47 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-11 15:11 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-12 19:56 +0000
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| From | "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-19 15:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n03ira$8b4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #153025 |
"Stan Barr" <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> wrote in message news:slrnn23sjb.8m8.plan.b@ID-309335.user.uni-berlin.de... > > [snip...] [snip...] > [snip...] > > Yep I'm familiar with his stuff! > > Now I've got old and decrepit and have tendon trouble in my fingers > I've more-or-less stopped playing ordinary guitar and concentrated on > slide guitar. This led me into buying a lap steel guitar and I've > been doing a lot of listening to those players lately. I'm starting > to get the hang of it now... > Stan, can you play "Steel Guitar Rag" on the lap steel guitar??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVIB_lWeAg -- numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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| From | Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-20 07:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn2bpn8.52k.plan.b@ID-309335.user.uni-berlin.de> |
| In reply to | #153101 |
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:14:32 -0500, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: > "Stan Barr" <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> wrote in message > news:slrnn23sjb.8m8.plan.b@ID-309335.user.uni-berlin.de... >> >> [snip...] [snip...] >> [snip...] >> >> Yep I'm familiar with his stuff! >> >> Now I've got old and decrepit and have tendon trouble in my fingers >> I've more-or-less stopped playing ordinary guitar and concentrated on >> slide guitar. This led me into buying a lap steel guitar and I've >> been doing a lot of listening to those players lately. I'm starting >> to get the hang of it now... >> > > Stan, can you play "Steel Guitar Rag" on the lap steel guitar??? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVIB_lWeAg > I wish :-) -- Stan Barr plan.b@bluesomatic.org
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 16:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvr9nf02prk@news7.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #152985 |
On 2015-10-15, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote: > On 14 Oct 2015 05:47:05 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> > wrote: > >> On 2015-10-14, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:03:42 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>> There seems to be a new "back to the land" movement, the new generation >>>> not realizing that their parents or grandparents did it forty-five years >>>> ago. >>>> >>>> They may want to know the phase of the moon so they can dance skyclad the >>>> night before the planting to ensure fertility, or something like that. >>> >>> It could be far more practical. ISTM that if you sow around the >>> full moon, you could more easily work into the evening, if it were >>> needed. >> >>Ditto for reaping, hence the term "harvest moon". > > Ah. Thank you. I never knew the significance of the term. I've also heard the term "hunter's moon" for the following month's full moon. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 14:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20151016142633.a574df918b4a2574b9769008@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #152863 |
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:26:43 -0700 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:03:42 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> > wrote: > > >On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Scott Lurndal wrote: > > [snip] > >There seems to be a new "back to the land" movement, the new generation > >not realizing that their parents or grandparents did it forty-five years > >ago. > > > >They may want to know the phase of the moon so they can dance skyclad > >the night before the planting to ensure fertility, or something like > >that. > > It could be far more practical. ISTM that if you sow around the > full moon, you could more easily work into the evening, if it were > needed. Plants that ripen based on photoperiod will start to ripen when the nights are long enough, but a near full moon is bright enough to break this so they won't see the short nights until the moon is dark. So planting by phase of the moon provides a consistent period between planting and the long dark nights of an early autumn dark of the moon that trigger the ripening. Of course the mechanism does not have to be known to see the results, and then extend the practice to crops where it doesn't matter because they are not photoperiod sensitive. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 13:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20151014.1200.972563snz@twoplaces.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #152807 |
On Tuesday, in article
<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510131202310.2103@darkstar.example.org>
et472@ncf.ca "Michael Black" wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of
>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't.
>>>
>>> Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none
>>> of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them.
>>
>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half
>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase.
>>
>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't
>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science.
>>
> There seems to be a new "back to the land" movement, the new generation
> not realizing that their parents or grandparents did it forty-five years
> ago.
>
> They may want to know the phase of the moon so they can dance skyclad the
> night before the planting to ensure fertility, or something like that.
Sounds like Biodynamics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_agriculture
--
Simon Turner DoD #0461
simon@twoplaces.co.uk
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| From | Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 10:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.LNX.2.02.1510141000090.4442@darkstar.example.org> |
| In reply to | #152879 |
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Simon Turner wrote: > On Tuesday, in article > <alpine.LNX.2.02.1510131202310.2103@darkstar.example.org> > et472@ncf.ca "Michael Black" wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>>> >>>> Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>> of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >>> >>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >>> >>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >>> >> There seems to be a new "back to the land" movement, the new generation >> not realizing that their parents or grandparents did it forty-five years >> ago. >> >> They may want to know the phase of the moon so they can dance skyclad the >> night before the planting to ensure fertility, or something like that. > > Sounds like Biodynamics. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_agriculture > I thought it was just an excuse to dance naked in the moonlight. Michael
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM00052211489B9D8F@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152791 |
Scott Lurndal wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>Scott Lurndal wrote: > >>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >> >>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. > > Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half > a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. > > The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't > use folklore to grow crops, they use science. > >> >>> >>>> >>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon phase. >>> >>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >> >>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a season. > > No, it has to do with weather and climatology. Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. Counting the phases of the Moon helps keep track of the timing of the seasons within a single orbit of the Earth around the Sun. Looking at a paper calender gives an overview of the schedules of the tasks which need to be done. That why "first full moon after crossing the n" is important. /BAH
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 14:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <BwtTx.16765$Y%4.15634@fx28.iad> |
| In reply to | #152892 |
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >Scott Lurndal wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>> >>>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >> >> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >> >> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon phase. >>>> >>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >>> >>>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a >season. >> >> No, it has to do with weather and climatology. > >Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. No, the farmer just watches the weather report every night. This has been the case since radio.
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM0005222447156096@aca43228.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152896 |
Scott Lurndal wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>>> >>>>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >>> >>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >>> >>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>>>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon phase. >>>>> >>>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >>>> >>>>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a >>season. >>> >>> No, it has to do with weather and climatology. >> >>Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. > > No, the farmer just watches the weather report every night. This > has been the case since radio. For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice to plan. /BAH
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2015-10-15 16:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <BJQTx.26916$pi.25042@fx05.iad> |
| In reply to | #152956 |
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >Scott Lurndal wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> >>>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>>>> >>>>>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >>>> >>>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >>>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >>>> >>>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >>>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>>>>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon phase. >>>>>> >>>>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>>>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >>>>> >>>>>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a >>>season. >>>> >>>> No, it has to do with weather and climatology. >>> >>>Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. >> >> No, the farmer just watches the weather report every night. This >> has been the case since radio. > >For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >to plan. http://forecast.weather.gov/ In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon since tractors grew lights.
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM00052238AC4D4E6E@aca46c82.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152967 |
Scott Lurndal wrote: > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>>>>> >>>>>>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>>>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >>>>> >>>>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >>>>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >>>>> >>>>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >>>>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>>>>>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon phase. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>>>>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >>>>>> >>>>>>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a >>>>season. >>>>> >>>>> No, it has to do with weather and climatology. >>>> >>>>Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. >>> >>> No, the farmer just watches the weather report every night. This >>> has been the case since radio. >> >>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>to plan. > > http://forecast.weather.gov/ > > In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon > since tractors grew lights. That's not true. /BAH
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| From | Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn22kqu.30v.mausg@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #152991 |
On 2015-10-16, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > Scott Lurndal wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> >>>> has been the case since radio. >>> >>>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>to plan. >> >> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >> >> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >> since tractors grew lights. > A farmer in Meath had his wheat sown this year by a tractor working completely guided by GPS, there was a man sitting in the drivers seat who loaded the seed, drove into the field, pressed the button, and sat there until the time to drive out of the field. He said that he was needed for insurance purposes, some years ago there was a show of driving robots on an ex-WWII airfield south of Berlin, again, insurance was the problem. The german machines were smallish but the Meath tractor was _large_ and would take a lot of stopping. I think there is a proposal to try robotic trucks on the highways across Nevada. -- greymaus . . ...
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| From | "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 15:58 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d8e2snF3lliU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #153003 |
"Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnn22kqu.30v.mausg@dmaus.org... > On 2015-10-16, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> has been the case since radio. >>>> >>>>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>>to plan. >>> >>> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >>> >>> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >>> since tractors grew lights. >> > A farmer in Meath had his wheat sown this year by a tractor working > completely guided by GPS, there was a man sitting in the drivers seat > who loaded the seed, drove into the field, pressed the button, and sat > there until the time to drive out of the field. He said that he was > needed for insurance purposes, some years ago there was a show of driving > robots on an ex-WWII airfield south of Berlin, again, insurance was the > problem. The german machines were smallish but the Meath tractor was > _large_ > and would take a lot of stopping. By far the biggest and heaviest trains in the entire world, in the Pilbara in Australia's NW, iron ore trains are now being completely automated, and they don’t bother with drivers at all. > I think there is a proposal to try robotic > trucks on the highways across Nevada.
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| From | "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 17:37 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d8gt19Fp7irU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #153022 |
"78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> wrote in message news:d8e2snF3lliU1@mid.individual.net... > > > "Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message > news:slrnn22kqu.30v.mausg@dmaus.org... >> On 2015-10-16, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>> has been the case since radio. >>>>> >>>>>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>>>to plan. >>>> >>>> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >>>> >>>> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >>>> since tractors grew lights. >>> >> A farmer in Meath had his wheat sown this year by a tractor working >> completely guided by GPS, there was a man sitting in the drivers seat >> who loaded the seed, drove into the field, pressed the button, and sat >> there until the time to drive out of the field. He said that he was >> needed for insurance purposes, some years ago there was a show of driving >> robots on an ex-WWII airfield south of Berlin, again, insurance was the >> problem. The german machines were smallish but the Meath tractor was >> _large_ >> and would take a lot of stopping. > > By far the biggest and heaviest trains in the entire world, > in the Pilbara in Australia's NW, iron ore trains are now being > completely automated, and they don’t bother with drivers at all. And the haul-paks too http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-18/rio-tinto-opens-worlds-first-automated-mine/6863814 >> I think there is a proposal to try robotic >> trucks on the highways across Nevada. > >
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| From | Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 11:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn272s2.31g.mausg@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #153040 |
On 2015-10-18, 78lp <78lp@nospam.com> wrote: > > > "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:d8e2snF3lliU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> >> "Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message >> news:slrnn22kqu.30v.mausg@dmaus.org... >>> On 2015-10-16, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> has been the case since radio. >>>>>> >>>>>>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>>>>to plan. >>>>> >>>>> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >>>>> >>>>> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >>>>> since tractors grew lights. >>>> >>> A farmer in Meath had his wheat sown this year by a tractor working >>> completely guided by GPS, there was a man sitting in the drivers seat >>> who loaded the seed, drove into the field, pressed the button, and sat >>> there until the time to drive out of the field. He said that he was >>> needed for insurance purposes, some years ago there was a show of driving >>> robots on an ex-WWII airfield south of Berlin, again, insurance was the >>> problem. The german machines were smallish but the Meath tractor was >>> _large_ >>> and would take a lot of stopping. >> >> By far the biggest and heaviest trains in the entire world, >> in the Pilbara in Australia's NW, iron ore trains are now being >> completely automated, and they don’t bother with drivers at all. > > And the haul-paks too > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-18/rio-tinto-opens-worlds-first-automated-mine/6863814 I've heard of those places, hot, remote, boring beyond belief. They _have_ to pay good wages to get people to work there, there was a lot of hiring from here during our crises, some can take that, some can't, I have heard of distant relatives in one of those sites, hauling water to keep the dust down (wear in equipment due to dust is signivent). Probably a good use for robotics. > >>> I think there is a proposal to try robotic >>> trucks on the highways across Nevada. >> >> -- greymaus . . ...
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| From | Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 13:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.LNX.2.02.1510181321460.11725@darkstar.example.org> |
| In reply to | #153042 |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Greymaus wrote: > On 2015-10-18, 78lp <78lp@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> >> "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:d8e2snF3lliU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>> >>> "Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message >>> news:slrnn22kqu.30v.mausg@dmaus.org... >>>> On 2015-10-16, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> has been the case since radio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>>>>> to plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >>>>>> since tractors grew lights. >>>>> >>>> A farmer in Meath had his wheat sown this year by a tractor working >>>> completely guided by GPS, there was a man sitting in the drivers seat >>>> who loaded the seed, drove into the field, pressed the button, and sat >>>> there until the time to drive out of the field. He said that he was >>>> needed for insurance purposes, some years ago there was a show of driving >>>> robots on an ex-WWII airfield south of Berlin, again, insurance was the >>>> problem. The german machines were smallish but the Meath tractor was >>>> _large_ >>>> and would take a lot of stopping. >>> >>> By far the biggest and heaviest trains in the entire world, >>> in the Pilbara in Australia's NW, iron ore trains are now being >>> completely automated, and they don’t bother with drivers at all. >> >> And the haul-paks too >> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-18/rio-tinto-opens-worlds-first-automated-mine/6863814 > > I've heard of those places, hot, remote, boring beyond belief. They _have_ to > pay good wages to get people to work there, there was a lot of hiring from > here during our crises, some can take that, some can't, I have heard of distant > relatives in one of those sites, hauling water to keep the dust down (wear in > equipment due to dust is signivent). Probably a good use for robotics. Yes, places you go to earn some money, then back to civilization. In the seventies, here in Quebec they were building a lot of hydroelectric dams at remote locations, and they pay was great since it was in the middle of nowhere and they needed to lure people, and then nowhere to spend the money, so you could go and spend six months there, and then back home. I knew someone who worked as a cook at one of the construction camps. But even 200 years ago, my great, great, great grandfather had come over from Scotland intended to make some money and then return home. Teaching wasn't cutting it, so he went into the fur trade. But then he got married, so he never did get back to Scotland. Michael
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| From | Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 19:21 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #153049 |
On 2015-10-18, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: > This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, > while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. > > --8323328-1392573837-1445189063=:11725 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Greymaus wrote: > >> On 2015-10-18, 78lp <78lp@nospam.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:d8e2snF3lliU1@mid.individual.net... > > Yes, places you go to earn some money, then back to civilization. > > In the seventies, here in Quebec they were building a lot of hydroelectric= >=20 > dams at remote locations, and they pay was great since it was in the middle > of nowhere and they needed to lure people, and then nowhere to spend the=20 > money, so you could go and spend six months there, and then back home. I= >=20 > knew someone who worked as a cook at one of the construction camps. > > But even 200 years ago, my great, great, great grandfather had come over > from Scotland intended to make some money and then return home. Teaching= >=20 > wasn't cutting it, so he went into the fur trade. But then he got=20 > married, so he never did get back to Scotland. The gulf (Persian or Arabian) is the place to do that now, live in an expatriot community, never see Arabs except during working hours. Come home, have a party, `throw prawns on the barbai'. The barbacue sets fire to the hedge between them and the house next, lots of damage. back to the gulf. Weather better out there anyway. > > Michael > --8323328-1392573837-1445189063=:11725-- -- greymaus . . ...
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| From | "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-19 15:28 +1100 |
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"Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnn272s2.31g.mausg@dmaus.org... > On 2015-10-18, 78lp <78lp@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> >> "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:d8e2snF3lliU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>> >>> "Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message >>> news:slrnn22kqu.30v.mausg@dmaus.org... >>>> On 2015-10-16, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> has been the case since radio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>>>>>to plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >>>>>> since tractors grew lights. >>>>> >>>> A farmer in Meath had his wheat sown this year by a tractor working >>>> completely guided by GPS, there was a man sitting in the drivers seat >>>> who loaded the seed, drove into the field, pressed the button, and sat >>>> there until the time to drive out of the field. He said that he was >>>> needed for insurance purposes, some years ago there was a show of >>>> driving >>>> robots on an ex-WWII airfield south of Berlin, again, insurance was the >>>> problem. The german machines were smallish but the Meath tractor was >>>> _large_ >>>> and would take a lot of stopping. >>> >>> By far the biggest and heaviest trains in the entire world, >>> in the Pilbara in Australia's NW, iron ore trains are now being >>> completely automated, and they don’t bother with drivers at all. >> >> And the haul-paks too >> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-18/rio-tinto-opens-worlds-first-automated-mine/6863814 > I've heard of those places, hot, remote, boring beyond belief. Those ones are, but there are plenty of others that are also being automated like container ports that aren't. Coal mines too. > They _have_ to pay good wages to get people to work there, They don’t actually have to, same with the container ports and coal mines, particularly with the open cut coal mines. > there was a lot of hiring from here during > our crises, some can take that, some can't, That is much more about the way they operation mostly fly in fly out, 12 hour shifts, sleeping in what are called dongas, which are basically not much better than a very down market holiday camp, with fuck all to do except drink sleep and eat when not actually working. > I have heard of distant relatives in one of those sites, The oldest kid of one my mates works in one of them, as a chemist, not a machinery operator. > hauling water to keep the dust down (wear > in equipment due to dust is signivent). That isn't the reason they keep the dust down and they don’t bother with those by far the heaviest and longest trains in the entire world. > Probably a good use for robotics. All mines and container ports and factories are, particularly as they are operating on their own property and don’t need any regulatory approval to operate on public roads etc. Lots of other work like mail sorting is too. Lots of farming is now too. >>>> I think there is a proposal to try robotic >>>> trucks on the highways across Nevada.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 15:30 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d8e17mF30hfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #152991 |
"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message news:PM00052238AC4D4E6E@aca46c82.ipt.aol.com... > Scott Lurndal wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>>>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>>>>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >>>>>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >>>>>> >>>>>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >>>>>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are >>>>>>>>>determined >>>>>>>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon >>>>>>>>>phase. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>>>>>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a >>>>>season. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, it has to do with weather and climatology. >>>>> >>>>>Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. >>>> >>>> No, the farmer just watches the weather report every night. This >>>> has been the case since radio. >>> >>>For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice >>>to plan. >> >> http://forecast.weather.gov/ >> >> In any case, farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon >> since tractors grew lights. > > That's not true. Yes, some dinosaurs kept using the phase of the moon long after much better alternatives showed up.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 06:31 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d8ad82F59dmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #152956 |
"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message news:PM0005222447156096@aca43228.ipt.aol.com... > Scott Lurndal wrote: >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>>>Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> >>>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of >>>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't. >>>>> >>>>>Interesting. I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none >>>>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them. >>>> >>>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half >>>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase. >>>> >>>> The family farm is pretty much done - industrial operations don't >>>> use folklore to grow crops, they use science. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>>>>>>by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon >>>>>>>phase. >>>>>> >>>>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase. Modern >>>>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report. >>>>> >>>>>Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a >>>season. >>>> >>>> No, it has to do with weather and climatology. >>> >>>Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit. >> >> No, the farmer just watches the weather report every night. >> This has been the case since radio. > > For a lot of things, the farmer needs more than 12 hours notice > to plan. Our forecasts are 7 days ahead are a hell of lot more accurate than moon phases can ever be.
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