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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

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First post2015-10-11 13:48 +0000
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  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-11 13:48 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-11 14:45 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-11 10:52 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 22:18 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 20:05 -0500
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 05:26 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:59 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:19 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:27 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 13:40 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 23:17 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:02 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:16 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 17:39 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-13 12:51 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:41 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:35 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 22:24 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:32 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:25 -0700
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-15 20:07 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-16 10:46 +0100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 08:58 -0500
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:52 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-12 08:49 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:39 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 19:03 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:44 +0200
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:24 -0700
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:51 +1100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-12 20:34 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-13 07:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 09:01 +0100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 09:43 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 15:19 +0100
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 10:21 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-12 15:14 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:38 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:03 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:26 -0700
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:47 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:27 -0700
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-16 07:48 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:55 -0400
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 18:14 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:35 -0500
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-17 07:02 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 13:09 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:14 -0500
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-20 07:02 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 16:47 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-16 14:26 +0100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-14 13:00 +0100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:00 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:20 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:44 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-16 18:48 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-17 15:58 +1100
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-18 17:37 +1100
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:12 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 13:24 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-19 15:28 +1100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:30 +1100
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:31 +1100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 09:04 +1100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:54 +1100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:59 +1100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:22 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 20:42 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 22:39 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 18:08 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:15 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:17 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:12 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:22 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 20:06 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:38 -0700
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-16 22:33 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:38 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:40 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-12 13:48 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:04 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:25 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 11:30 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:38 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:51 +1100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:16 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:14 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:19 -0700
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 00:17 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:33 -0300
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:00 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-13 07:46 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 11:42 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:53 +1100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 20:08 +1100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:17 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:44 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:09 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:19 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-19 20:45 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:57 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:16 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-14 16:20 +0200
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:09 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:33 +0200
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 07:03 +1100
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-15 23:04 +0200
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 11:18 +0000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 19:06 +0200
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 18:34 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 21:31 +0200
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:45 +1100
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-17 06:47 -0500
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 05:00 +1100
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 15:23 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:49 +1100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:47 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:54 +1100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:29 +1100
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 14:42 -0500
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 11:21 +1100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:32 +1100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-13 10:00 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-14 13:24 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 17:35 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 18:48 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:42 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:20 -0500
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-15 06:49 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:40 -0500
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:47 +1100
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-11 15:11 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-12 19:56 +0000

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#152865

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-10-13 20:40 -0700
Message-ID<bijr1b12tl07dkoq320smtouer4mvgkdgq@4ax.com>
In reply to#152786
On 13 Oct 2015 12:34:37 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:

>JimP wrote:

[snip]

>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^
     That is the correct spelling, yes.

>> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
>> disliked farmers.

     The ideas some people get.

>Pagan?!!!  Farming and fishing are run by moon phases.  I remember
>reading somewhere that castrations were also done based on the moon
>phase; IIRC, a full moon caused more bleeding but I never got around
>to checking that one.   All the farmers in my life have died.

     Not from the castrations, I hope.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#152889

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Message-ID<PM00052210F19B71DE@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152865
Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On 13 Oct 2015 12:34:37 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>JimP wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      That is the correct spelling, yes.
>
>>> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
>>> disliked farmers.
>
>      The ideas some people get.
>
>>Pagan?!!!  Farming and fishing are run by moon phases.  I remember
>>reading somewhere that castrations were also done based on the moon
>>phase; IIRC, a full moon caused more bleeding but I never got around
>>to checking that one.   All the farmers in my life have died.
>
>      Not from the castrations, I hope.

Nah.  Old age.

/BAH

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#152742

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-10-12 13:48 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#152731
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 calendar
>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>
>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>> years.
>>
>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside
>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>> look at the sky anyway.
>>
> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
> knowledge of any kind.
>
The calendars are all sealed up, on the level of coffee table books, 
rather than function.  You can see the pictures, which are the key selling 
point, because they print them on the back of the calendar as a lure to 
get people to buy them.  But then you can't open the calendar to see if it 
has things like phases of the moon.

> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>
YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
fairly available.

I think Emacs lets you see the phase of the moon, I've never used it other 
than to poke around and see what features like that it includes.

I thought I saw a "weatherstation" the other day that showed the phase of 
the moon.

My Garmin GPS receiver gives the time of sunrise and sunset, which is one 
of the things that would be nice to get in a program.  Run it in the 
morning and get the sunrise and sunset, and the phase of the moon.  That's 
why I had that book about astronomy on the calculator out, I'm not sure 
where it is now.  It showed all you needed, it would be relatively simple 
to put it all together as a single program.

Of course, with the internet, this sort of thing is fairly available. 
Some of those weather sites provide such things.

   Michael

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#152753

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-12 16:04 -0500
Message-ID<mvh75c$sjm$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152742
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message 
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org...
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>
>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 
>>>>> calendar
>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>
>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>> years.
>>>
>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena 
>>> (aside
>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>
>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>> knowledge of any kind.
>>
> The calendars are all sealed up, on the level of coffee table books, 
> rather than function.  You can see the pictures, which are the key selling 
> point, because they print them on the back of the calendar as a lure to 
> get people to buy them.  But then you can't open the calendar to see if it 
> has things like phases of the moon.
>
>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>
> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
> fairly available.
>

How about getting a copy of _The Farmer's Almanac_.  I gotta think that this 
will include the phases of the moon.  And again BAH... you can "pencil in" 
the phases of the moon on your calendar.

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152780

FromGreymaus <mausg@mail.com>
Date2015-10-13 12:25 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn1q199.321.mausg@dmaus.org>
In reply to#152753
On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> "Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message 
> news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org...
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>
>> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
>> fairly available.
>>
>
> How about getting a copy of _The Farmer's Almanac_.  I gotta think that this 
> will include the phases of the moon.  And again BAH... you can "pencil in" 
> the phases of the moon on your calendar.
>

Very cheap calendars (The  sort that an auctioneer that you used ten years ago
send) here have phases of the moon. Some have Ramadan as well.


-- 
greymaus
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  .
...

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#152894

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Message-ID<PM0005221118640AC1@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152780
Greymaus wrote:
> On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>> "Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
>> news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org...
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>
>>> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
>>> fairly available.
>>>
>>
>> How about getting a copy of _The Farmer's Almanac_.  I gotta think that
this
>> will include the phases of the moon.  And again BAH... you can "pencil in"
>> the phases of the moon on your calendar.
>>
>
> Very cheap calendars (The  sort that an auctioneer that you used ten years
ago
> send) here have phases of the moon. Some have Ramadan as well.
>
>
The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
for product promotion.

Part of a calender has always been showing the phases; all of sudden
it's gone.  I'd like to know why.

/BAH

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#152903

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
Message-ID<mvlthe128pk@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152894
On 2015-10-14, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:

> The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
> they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
> I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
> for product promotion.

Calendars are so dated.

-- 
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#152909

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-14 11:30 -0500
Message-ID<6p0t1b9j9mdkpj580vfh08jsop9gke5k5s@4ax.com>
In reply to#152903
On 14 Oct 2015 15:49:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:
>On 2015-10-14, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
>> they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
>> I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
>> for product promotion.
>
>Calendars are so dated.

The printed ones work without electriity.
-- 
JimP.

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#152953

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Message-ID<PM0005222453CEF792@aca43228.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152903
Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2015-10-14, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
>> they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
>> I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
>> for product promotion.
>
> Calendars are so dated.
>
ROTFLMAO.

/BAH

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#153006

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-16 14:38 -0500
Message-ID<mvrjkj$3qg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152903
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message 
news:mvlthe128pk@news3.newsguy.com...
> On 2015-10-14, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
>> they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
>> I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
>> for product promotion.
>
> Calendars are so dated.
>

And wristwatches are so 15 seconds ago...

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152939

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-15 08:51 +1100
Message-ID<d88137Fhi1hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152894

"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM0005221118640AC1@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com...
> Greymaus wrote:
>> On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>> "Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org...
>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing 
>>>> is
>>>> fairly available.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about getting a copy of _The Farmer's Almanac_.  I gotta think that
> this
>>> will include the phases of the moon.  And again BAH... you can "pencil 
>>> in"
>>> the phases of the moon on your calendar.
>>>
>>
>> Very cheap calendars (The  sort that an auctioneer that you used ten 
>> years
> ago
>> send) here have phases of the moon. Some have Ramadan as well.
>>
>>
> The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
> they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
> I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
> for product promotion.

Because it isn't useless for most and its one of the few things that
some to use most days so its ideal to put your advertising on.

> Part of a calender has always been showing the phases;
> all of sudden it's gone.  I'd like to know why.

Because what you get from the phases is available
in a much better form now with all that use phases. 

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#152945

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-10-14 21:16 -0500
Message-ID<mvn279$ma8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152894
On 10/14/2015 9:02 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
> Greymaus wrote:
>> On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>> "Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org...
>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
>>>> fairly available.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about getting a copy of _The Farmer's Almanac_.  I gotta think that
> this
>>> will include the phases of the moon.  And again BAH... you can "pencil in"
>>> the phases of the moon on your calendar.
>>>
>>
>> Very cheap calendars (The  sort that an auctioneer that you used ten years
> ago
>> send) here have phases of the moon. Some have Ramadan as well.

Certainly not gonna have that last in the USA, due to the hatred of
Muslims among a certain segment of the population.

> The give-aways here used to have phases and most of the holidays.  Now
> they don't have the phases and a lot of holidays have been elminated.
> I can't figure out why they bother using a useless stack of paper
> for product promotion.

The places that hand them out just order "type 4" with their own name
imprinted. I suspect not a lot of thought goes into it, and the
decision is mostly based on what the pictures are. It's just a freebie
to hand out that will get people to look at your store name as often
as possible.
> 
> Part of a calender has always been showing the phases; all of sudden
> it's gone.  I'd like to know why.

The giveaways aren't tailored for rural users, they're a generic
product printed a thousand miles away and customized with the name of
the local feed store (or whatever). Mostly we're an urban nation now,
and mostly streetlights trump the moon. I suspect most people couldn't
tell you what the moon looked like right now, without going outside
and looking. Maybe cops who work the night shift. And omitting the
phases of the moon gives a little more space for people to write
things in, and avoids the religious nutters who are looking for pagan
or Satanist cues to complain about (like the perennial complaints
about the P&G logo). The moon is mostly relevant (these days) to
people who are concerned with tides, and to people in rural areas who
are out and about at night.

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#152809

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-10-13 12:14 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510131212450.2103@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#152753
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Charles Richmond wrote:

> "Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message 
> news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510121341260.17026@darkstar.example.org...
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> 
>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 
>>>>>> calendar
>>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>>> years.
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena 
>>>> (aside
>>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>> 
>>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>>> knowledge of any kind.
>>> 
>> The calendars are all sealed up, on the level of coffee table books, rather 
>> than function.  You can see the pictures, which are the key selling point, 
>> because they print them on the back of the calendar as a lure to get people 
>> to buy them.  But then you can't open the calendar to see if it has things 
>> like phases of the moon.
>> 
>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>> 
>> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
>> fairly available.
>> 
>
> How about getting a copy of _The Farmer's Almanac_.  I gotta think that this 
> will include the phases of the moon.  And again BAH... you can "pencil in" 
> the phases of the moon on your calendar.
>
That's true.  I bet there are similar annuals aimed at the small boat 
crowd that has such things.

But The Old Farmer's Almanac now has a website, www.almanac.com, and
right there it has links to the phase of the moon etc.

   Michael

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#152759

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-10-12 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<0ufo1b59iv4hr2nl7j36a4n3idfaki2vu0@4ax.com>
In reply to#152742
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:48:05 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
wrote:

[snip]

>The calendars are all sealed up, on the level of coffee table books, 
>rather than function.  You can see the pictures, which are the key selling 
>point, because they print them on the back of the calendar as a lure to 
>get people to buy them.  But then you can't open the calendar to see if it 
>has things like phases of the moon.

     I have seen many calendars that show each month's picture on the
back.  Sometimes, one month of days is shown.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#152764

FromBob Eager <news0005@eager.cx>
Date2015-10-13 00:17 +0000
Message-ID<d830t8Fni3nU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152759
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:19:41 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:48:05 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>The calendars are all sealed up, on the level of coffee table books,
>>rather than function.  You can see the pictures, which are the key
>>selling point, because they print them on the back of the calendar as a
>>lure to get people to buy them.  But then you can't open the calendar to
>>see if it has things like phases of the moon.
> 
>      I have seen many calendars that show each month's picture on the
> back.  Sometimes, one month of days is shown.

I have this one:

  http://www.shoparizonahighways.com/2016-classic-wall-calendar

It has the moon pictures. One month per page.



-- 
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#152771

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2015-10-13 01:33 -0300
Message-ID<87a8rnxu8a.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#152742
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
> 
>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>
> YOu could write a program, or use an existing one.  That sort of thing is
> fairly available.
> 
> I think Emacs lets you see the phase of the moon, I've never used it other 
> than to poke around and see what features like that it includes.

M-X phases-of-moon returns a text list of phases for 3 months.  MIT's
Project Athena used to deliver an ASCII pic of current moon phase on
dialup logout.  I've had a similar utility since my first Linux
system. [1]

What I'd like is a similar utility that shows the direction of
moonrise from my (or any given) location.  It wobbles back and forth
across the horizon during the course of a month.  Very unsettling. :-)

[1]
bogus% phoon

                              .
                                  .
                                     .
                                        .
                                         \
                                           .
                                            \
                                             \
                                             |
                                              \	 New Moon +     
                                              |	 0  4:25:13
                                              |	 First Quarter -
                                              |	 7 16:00:20
                                              /
                                             |
                                             /
                                            /
                                           '
                                         /
                                        '
                                     '
                                  '
                              '

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#152752

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-12 16:00 -0500
Message-ID<mvh6ti$rnp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152731
"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM000521E851B838E3@aca413fe.ipt.aol.com...
> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 
>>>> calendar
>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>
>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>> years.
>>
>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena 
>> (aside
>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>> look at the sky anyway.
>>
> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
> knowledge of any kind.
>
> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>

BAH, I'm sure you can find a computer program that will generate the dates 
of the phases of the moon for you.  Then you can "pencil them in" on the 
calendar you already have.

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152774

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2015-10-13 07:46 +0100
Message-ID<20151013074628.5c7a71286e15f487555893f3@eircom.net>
In reply to#152752
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:00:29 -0500
"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

> BAH, I'm sure you can find a computer program that will generate the
> dates of the phases of the moon for you.  Then you can "pencil them in"
> on the calendar you already have.

	There's a little program called pom in the BSD collection that can
return the phase of the moon for any given date and time. Today the moon is
New, tomorrow it will be Waxing Crescent (1% of full), on the 21st it will
be Waxing Gibbous (52% of full).

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C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#152779

FromBob Eager <news0005@eager.cx>
Date2015-10-13 11:42 +0000
Message-ID<d8490bFifstU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152774
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 07:46:28 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:00:29 -0500 "Charles Richmond"
> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> 
>> BAH, I'm sure you can find a computer program that will generate the
>> dates of the phases of the moon for you.  Then you can "pencil them in"
>> on the calendar you already have.
> 
> 	There's a little program called pom in the BSD collection that can
> return the phase of the moon for any given date and time. Today the moon
> is New, tomorrow it will be Waxing Crescent (1% of full), on the 21st it
> will be Waxing Gibbous (52% of full).

I mentioned that early on in this thread. I have it running with output 
to a 'conky' window, with other stuff such as sunrise and sunset.



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#152787

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Message-ID<PM000521FBB71BC6E3@aca20236.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152752
Charles Richmond wrote:
> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:PM000521E851B838E3@aca413fe.ipt.aol.com...
>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>> calendar
>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>
>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>> years.
>>>
>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>> (aside
>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>
>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>> knowledge of any kind.
>>
>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>
>
> BAH, I'm sure you can find a computer program that will generate the dates
> of the phases of the moon for you.  Then you can "pencil them in" on the
> calendar you already have.

I did that (pencil them in).  I'm simply noting that noone seems to miss
the calender data.  I find that fact odd.

/BAH

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