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Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)?

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First post2016-03-11 21:25 -0800
Last post2016-03-21 14:37 -0700
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  Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-11 21:25 -0800
    Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-03-12 04:33 -0600
      Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-12 10:40 -0800
        Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-03-12 13:29 -0600
      Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2016-03-16 06:44 -0400
    Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-12 08:08 -0600
    Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-12 09:38 -0600
    Re: Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)? David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 14:37 -0700

#160888 — Rotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)?

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-03-11 21:25 -0800
SubjectRotary dial phonse work on modern landlines (FIOS, Cable)?
Message-ID<7cc222ac-e64d-4a75-b587-f6356442136c@googlegroups.com>
Would anyone know with certainly if an old style rotary dial telephone
can dial calls on FIOS lines, lines from the cable company, and similar
such services?

I've heard that they can, they such setups do use regular phones.

Thanks!

(Business modern phones over digital lines require different 
altogether different sets.)

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#160891

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-03-12 04:33 -0600
Message-ID<nc0r3q$smq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160888
On 03/11/2016 11:25 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> Would anyone know with certainly if an old style rotary dial telephone
> can dial calls on FIOS lines, lines from the cable company, and similar
> such services?
>
> I've heard that they can, they such setups do use regular phones.
>
> Thanks!
>
> (Business modern phones over digital lines require different
> altogether different sets.)
>



Nope

I still have a few dial phones and when I switched to fiber optic, the 
dial does not function

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#160903

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-03-12 10:40 -0800
Message-ID<1f1f83f5-c510-4a1f-bef0-2b95fbeff8d5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#160891
On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 5:33:25 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
> I still have a few dial phones and when I switched to fiber optic, the 
> dial does not function

Do your regular phones, e.g. basic 2500 set, still work?

Do you mean specifically FIOS, or some other service?

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#160904

Fromphilo <philo@privacy.net>
Date2016-03-12 13:29 -0600
Message-ID<nc1qgm$mo9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160903
On 03/12/2016 12:40 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 5:33:25 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
>> I still have a few dial phones and when I switched to fiber optic, the
>> dial does not function
>
> Do your regular phones, e.g. basic 2500 set, still work?
>
> Do you mean specifically FIOS, or some other service?
>



The dial phones function, just can't dial


I use AT&T fiber optic service...I do not know their specs

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#161069

From"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net>
Date2016-03-16 06:44 -0400
Message-ID<ncbde802tj0@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#160891
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> On 03/11/2016 11:25 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

>> Would anyone know with certainly if an old style rotary dial telephone
>> can dial calls on FIOS lines, lines from the cable company, and similar
>> such services?

>> I've heard that they can, they such setups do use regular phones.

> Nope

> I still have a few dial phones and when I switched to fiber optic, the 
> dial does not function

It apparently depends on the make and model (and perhaps configuration of) 
ONI that Verizon used at your location.  In my case (and to my surprise) I 
discovered a few years back that my old AECo buttpack phone (which I bought 
back in the 1960s) had no problems dialing phone numbers.

No, I've not tried it recently, so that feature might have disappeared.

Joe 

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#160895

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-03-12 08:08 -0600
Message-ID<nc17nr$944$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160888
On 3/11/2016 11:25 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> Would anyone know with certainly if an old style rotary dial telephone
> can dial calls on FIOS lines, lines from the cable company, and similar
> such services?

If you could tell us the make and model of the interface hardware 
involved, someone could probably tell you. That's what it depends on, 
rather than how the last mile is wired. I can tell you that pulse does 
not work with a Cisco SPA-2102 ATA (VoIP adapter). I believe some 
other ATAs will accept pulse dialing.

> I've heard that they can, they such setups do use regular phones.

That's a different question entirely. The SPA-2102 uses regular phones 
(in my case, including one 2500-style phone with a real bell ringer), 
it just won't accept pulse dialing.
>
> Thanks!
>
> (Business modern phones over digital lines require different
> altogether different sets.)

Those phones have the electronics built into them, so they don't 
generate either pulses or tones. Same with a "soft" phone, which uses 
your computer for the hardware and its ethernet connection for the wire.

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#160897

FromLawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx>
Date2016-03-12 09:38 -0600
Message-ID<87d1qz66zy.fsf@senguio.mx>
In reply to#160888
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:

> Would anyone know with certainly if an old style rotary dial telephone
> can dial calls on FIOS lines, lines from the cable company, and similar
> such services?
>
> I've heard that they can, they such setups do use regular phones.

It depends entirely on the features of the terminal adapter.  The one I
had (made by Huawei) did fine.  A friend in the US reports that his (mfr
unknown to me) does not.

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#161301

FromDavid Jones <djones60@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-21 14:37 -0700
Message-ID<61b838c6-2804-4ee5-8101-a9195d3cc835@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#160888
On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 12:26:03 AM UTC-5, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> Would anyone know with certainly if an old style rotary dial telephone
> can dial calls on FIOS lines, lines from the cable company, and similar
> such services?
> 
> I've heard that they can, they such setups do use regular phones.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> (Business modern phones over digital lines require different 
> altogether different sets.)

Well in my area dial phones still works on the telco landlines.  We don't have FIOS and I'm not sure about cable but I doubt it. 

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