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| Started by | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000 |
| Last post | 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 369 — 50 participants |
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Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mddmtwtddq6.fsf@panix5.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #216628 |
usenet@only.tnx (Questor) writes:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:33:00 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>> John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
>>> In article <run0g2$uvk$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>,
>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>> Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> schrieb:
>>>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>>>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote
>>>>>> And German is much harder to learn than English, if you are from Spain,
>>>>>> France, Italy or any other country with its own proper language.
>>>>> Really? English is a very irregular language, while Deutsch is quite
>>>>> regular (with the odd exception here and there) and rather logical.
>>> The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up
>>> for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are
>>> neuter.
>> Grammatical case (Nominative, Accusative, Genetive, Dative, etc) is also
>> difficult for the typically american english speaker.
> Which is why it all went to hell when they stopped teaching Latin in school.
> (Although I never really understand the ablative case.)
It gets a lot easier after you do multiple semesters of Sanskrit in grad
school, since you learn to differentiate the ablative and instrumental, there
is a locative separate from the dative, and there are very very few "irregular"
forms--which shouldn't be surprising since it's a standardized version of the
natural language in which Vedic literature was composed. (The name even says
so, since it means "perfected".)
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) |
| Message-ID | <ruv1ei$1f6d$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #216628 |
In article <601201b9.12359451@news.dslextreme.com>, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>Grammatical case (Nominative, Accusative, Genetive, Dative, etc) is also difficult >>for the typically american english speaker. > >Which is why it all went to hell when they stopped teaching Latin in school. >(Although I never really understand the ablative case.) I did pretty well in my two years of Latin and I still find German cases daunting. They're sort of the same except where they're completely different. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <516751450.633560708.085495.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #216628 |
Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:33:00 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: >> John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes: >>> In article <run0g2$uvk$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>, >>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>>> Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> schrieb: >>>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: >>>>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote >>>>> >>>>>> And German is much harder to learn than English, if you >>>>>> are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper >>>>>> language. >>>>> >>>>> Really? English is a very irregular language, while Deutsch is >>>>> quite regular (with the odd exception here and there) and rather logical. >>> >>> The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up >>> for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are >>> neuter. >> >> Grammatical case (Nominative, Accusative, Genetive, Dative, etc) is also difficult >> for the typically american english speaker. > > Which is why it all went to hell when they stopped teaching Latin in school. > (Although I never really understand the ablative case.) > > Is ablative “by means of?” I had several years of Latin, now mostly gone. I always think I want to go back and refresh, but I never seem to get a round tuit. -- Pete
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rv0qnd$bq4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216678 |
On 28/01/2021 21:20, Peter Flass wrote: > > Is ablative “by means of?” I had several years of Latin, now mostly gone. I > always think I want to go back and refresh, but I never seem to get a round > tuit. > eg, the exclamation, "by Jove!" is actually, " by by Jove" because, "Jove" is already in the ablative!
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| From | Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> |
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| Date | 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87czxm4dr3.fsf@eder.anydns.info> |
| In reply to | #216503 |
On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 19:33, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: > Granted, gender is a problem for english speakers learning Deutsch, but not for > most other latin languages where gender (and more importantly case) > are significant. Yes, but hender can be different in different languages! In german the sun - die Sonne - is feminine, the moon - der Mond - is masculine; in french it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine). 'Andreas
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210130172238.90b0fef9ae02280c71972b80@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #216726 |
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:59:28 +0100 Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote: > In german the sun - die Sonne - is feminine, the moon - der Mond - is > masculine; in french it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine). ... and kids today think that being transgender is something new. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <846395540.633739410.241088.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #216726 |
Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote: > On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 19:33, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: > >> Granted, gender is a problem for english speakers learning Deutsch, but not for >> most other latin languages where gender (and more importantly case) >> are significant. > > Yes, but hender can be different in different languages! > In german the sun - die Sonne - is feminine, the moon - der Mond - is masculine; > in french it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine). > > 'Andreas > A phony explanation for this is that in southern lands the sun is powerful, and hence masculine, while in northern lands it is weak, and hence feminine. -- Pete
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0dpb1glbcas46dqnao0nqrnohejj35tdc2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #216738 |
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:46:30 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote: >> On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 19:33, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: >> >>> Granted, gender is a problem for english speakers learning Deutsch, but not for >>> most other latin languages where gender (and more importantly case) >>> are significant. >> >> Yes, but hender can be different in different languages! >> In german the sun - die Sonne - is feminine, the moon - der Mond - is masculine; >> in french it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine). >> >> 'Andreas >> > >A phony explanation for this is that in southern lands the sun is powerful, >and hence masculine, while in northern lands it is weak, and hence >feminine. I just checked and the word for "sun" in Arabic is feminine. I tried the same for the other extreme but the various Eskimo-Aleut languages seem to not have noun gender.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210125193128.98306a97b7f19dea8ea84e85@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #216500 |
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:30:51 -0000 (UTC) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up > for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are > neuter. Coincidence bites again ? It is less than 24 hours since I was reading the bit in Artifact where a character is complaining about that very aspect of the German language. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87sg6ogzao.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216500 |
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:30:51 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>
> In article <run0g2$uvk$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>,
> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> schrieb:
>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>>>On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote
>>>
>>>>And German is much harder to learn than English, if you
>>>>are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper
>>>>language.
>>>
>>> Really? English is a very irregular language, while Deutsch is
>>> quite regular (with the odd exception here and there) and rather logical.
>
> The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up
> for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are
> neuter.
Yeah. Isn't that weird?
And as I mentioned in another article - and I want to repeat it because
it's so quirky - if there are more than one, everything becomes
feminine. Even man. Singular is "Der Mann", pural "Die Männer" ("die" is
the feminine article!). The "a" in Mann even becomes an "ä", while when you
try this with women:
Singular "Die Frau", plural "Die Frauen"
the "a" stays an "a". Also "die" stays "die" in the plural form.
--
Andreas
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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mddo8hbgziu.fsf@panix5.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #216515 |
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:30:51 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>> The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up
>> for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are
>> neuter.
> Yeah. Isn't that weird?
> And as I mentioned in another article - and I want to repeat it because
> it's so quirky - if there are more than one, everything becomes
> feminine. Even man. Singular is "Der Mann", pural "Die Männer" ("die" is
> the feminine article!). The "a" in Mann even becomes an "ä", while when you
> try this with women:
> Singular "Die Frau", plural "Die Frauen"
> the "a" stays an "a". Also "die" stays "die" in the plural form.
Not really. The genders are distinguished only in the singular, but the plural
differs a bit from any of them:
M F N P
Nom der die das die
Gen des der des der
Dat dem der dem den
Acc den die das die
So the plural differs from the feminine in the dative case.
Then there are the forms of the adjective when preceded by the definite article
vs. the indefinite article _ein_ (and similar forms like _kein_ "none, no") vs.
without any article. To make this clear, I'll use the adjective _klein_ "little".
Def M F N P
Nom klein-e klein-e klein-e klein-en
Gen klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
Dat klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
Acc klein-en klein-e klein-e klein-en
Indef M F N P
Nom klein-er klein-e klein-es klein-e
Gen klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-er
Dat klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
Acc klein-en klein-e klein-es klein-e
Bare M F N P
Nom klein-er klein-e klein-es klein-e
Gen klein-en klein-er klein-es klein-er
Dat klein-em klein-er klein-em klein-en
Acc klein-en klein-e klein-es klein-e
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oC0QH.4295$Pr6.1706@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #216556 |
Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:30:51 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>
>>> The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up
>>> for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are
>>> neuter.
>
>> Yeah. Isn't that weird?
>
>> And as I mentioned in another article - and I want to repeat it because
>> it's so quirky - if there are more than one, everything becomes
>> feminine. Even man. Singular is "Der Mann", pural "Die Männer" ("die" is
>> the feminine article!). The "a" in Mann even becomes an "ä", while when you
>> try this with women:
>
>> Singular "Die Frau", plural "Die Frauen"
>
>> the "a" stays an "a". Also "die" stays "die" in the plural form.
>
>Not really. The genders are distinguished only in the singular, but the plural
>differs a bit from any of them:
>
> M F N P
>Nom der die das die
>Gen des der des der
>Dat dem der dem den
>Acc den die das die
>
>So the plural differs from the feminine in the dative case.
>
>Then there are the forms of the adjective when preceded by the definite article
>vs. the indefinite article _ein_ (and similar forms like _kein_ "none, no") vs.
>without any article. To make this clear, I'll use the adjective _klein_ "little".
>
>Def M F N P
>Nom klein-e klein-e klein-e klein-en
>Gen klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
>Dat klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
>Acc klein-en klein-e klein-e klein-en
>
>Indef M F N P
>Nom klein-er klein-e klein-es klein-e
>Gen klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-er
>Dat klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
>Acc klein-en klein-e klein-es klein-e
>
>Bare M F N P
>Nom klein-er klein-e klein-es klein-e
>Gen klein-en klein-er klein-es klein-er
>Dat klein-em klein-er klein-em klein-en
>Acc klein-en klein-e klein-es klein-e
And to top it off, 'ein' gets affected as well,
eine kleine nachtmusik.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ruqdmb128jn@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #216561 |
On 2021-01-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:30:51 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>>>
>>>> The spelling is delightful but the genders and cases more than make up
>>>> for it. Men and boys are masculine, women are feminine, but girls are
>>>> neuter.
>>>
>>> Yeah. Isn't that weird?
>>>
>>> And as I mentioned in another article - and I want to repeat it because
>>> it's so quirky - if there are more than one, everything becomes
>>> feminine. Even man. Singular is "Der Mann", pural "Die Männer" ("die" is
>>> the feminine article!). The "a" in Mann even becomes an "ä", while when
>>> you try this with women:
>>>
>>> Singular "Die Frau", plural "Die Frauen"
>>>
>>> the "a" stays an "a". Also "die" stays "die" in the plural form.
>>
>> Not really. The genders are distinguished only in the singular,
>> but the plural differs a bit from any of them:
>>
>> M F N P
>> Nom der die das die
>> Gen des der des der
>> Dat dem der dem den
>> Acc den die das die
>>
>> So the plural differs from the feminine in the dative case.
I always thought of the plural "die" as a distinct word
which just happened to look like the singular feminine.
>> Then there are the forms of the adjective when preceded by the
>> definite article vs. the indefinite article _ein_ (and similar
>> forms like _kein_ "none, no") vs. without any article. To make
>> this clear, I'll use the adjective _klein_ "little".
>>
>> Def M F N P
>> Nom klein-e klein-e klein-e klein-en
>> Gen klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
>> Dat klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
>> Acc klein-en klein-e klein-e klein-en
>>
>> Indef M F N P
>> Nom klein-er klein-e klein-es klein-e
>> Gen klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-er
>> Dat klein-en klein-en klein-en klein-en
>> Acc klein-en klein-e klein-es klein-e
>>
>> Bare M F N P
>> Nom klein-er klein-e klein-es klein-e
>> Gen klein-en klein-er klein-es klein-er
>> Dat klein-em klein-er klein-em klein-en
>> Acc klein-en klein-e klein-es klein-e
AAAARRRRGGGHHHHH! The old nightmares return!
> And to top it off, 'ein' gets affected as well,
>
> eine kleine nachtmusik.
While we're at it, let's not forget the declension of nouns.
The poster child is "Herz" (heart), which has an irregular declension:
Singular Plural
Nom das Herz die Herzen
Gen des Herzens der Herzen
Dat dem Herzen den Herzen
Acc das Herz die Herzen
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die,
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make."
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mddsg6ldeuu.fsf@panix5.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #216574 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> While we're at it, let's not forget the declension of nouns.
> The poster child is "Herz" (heart), which has an irregular declension:
> Singular Plural
> Nom das Herz die Herzen
> Gen des Herzens der Herzen
> Dat dem Herzen den Herzen
> Acc das Herz die Herzen
There's nothing irregular about it--it's a perfectly regular n-stem noun.
There just aren't very many of them. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <878s8fca5e.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216556 |
On 26 Jan 2021 16:27:05 -0500, Rich Alderson wrote:
>
> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>
>> Singular "Die Frau", plural "Die Frauen"
>
>> the "a" stays an "a". Also "die" stays "die" in the plural form.
>
> Not really.
You're right.
> The genders are distinguished only in the singular, but the plural
> differs a bit from any of them:
>
> M F N P
> Nom der die das die
> Gen des der des der
> Dat dem der dem den
> Acc den die das die
>
> So the plural differs from the feminine in the dative case.
To see why German is harder to learn than English, here how the table
would look like, if English had four cases and more than one gender:
M F N P
Nom the the the the
Gen the the the the
Dat the the the the
Acc the the the the
But English doesn't have this, it's always "the" or "a" (or "an" if a
vowel is the first letter of the noun).
--
Andreas
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210125194247.1a87177347c7355975fe8b80@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #216498 |
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:52:02 -0000 (UTC) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > One thing that English is really terrible at is pronounciation. Ho hum, time for this again, try to read The Chaos aloud: http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <VsidnUkfdJ5xppL9nZ2dnUU7-WmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #216507 |
> http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html. LALR(howmany!?) De
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <run5mr$g27$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216497 |
On 25/01/2021 15:46, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: >> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote > >> And German is much harder to learn than English, if you >> are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper >> language. > > Really? English is a very irregular language, while Deutsch is > quite regular (with the odd exception here and there) and rather logical. > Try learning Welsh (as I am currently having inherited a library of books) with 10 different ways of getting the plural of nouns, and the first letter mutating to something different depending on the context!
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| From | Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1611628459@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> |
| In reply to | #216497 |
SL> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes: >>On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote >>And German is much harder to learn than English, if you >>are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper >>language. SL> Really? English is a very irregular language, while Deutsch is SL> quite regular (with the odd exception here and there) and rather logical. German with it's grammar is a nightmare to learn. I tried back in school. English is also more accessible through TV and movies so you pick up way more that way.
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87v9bkgzm2.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216497 |
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:46:13 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>>On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote
>
>>And German is much harder to learn than English, if you
>>are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper
>>language.
>
> Really? English is a very irregular language, while Deutsch is
> quite regular (with the odd exception here and there) and rather logical.
As German I found English easier to learn than French. Russian the
hardest ever, but I only got the (military) basics.
English has only one article, no matter what gender. It's always "the" or
"a(n)". French had two plus one for plural (le and la and les) while
German has three (die, der and das), and "die" for plural. Since "die" is
the feminine article everything, also more than one man ("men") becomes
feminine. Also you cannot guess in French or English (suppose Spanish,
Italian and other languages with more than one article) if the article is
masculine, feminine, or worse in German, neutral. For example a tree is
masculine, a boat is neutral (you might have heard about the German 80s
movie "Das Boot"), while a hedge is female. In English you don't have to
care about genders.
Then there are cases. English doesn't know of them. I think French has
two. German has four and Russian six. And there is where novice German
speakers will have it wrong in most cases. Like "The car belongs to th
man".
Novice speakers would most likely say "Das Auto gehört der Mann", because
"der" is a masculine article. Correct is "Das Auto gehört dem Mann". But
if you use woman (Frau) instead of a man you get "Das Auto gehört der
Frau". Again, "der" is masculine, but it is correct! Because this is the
third case (accusative) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusative>.
English has (for my knowledge) only one case.
The car belongs to the man.
The car belongs to the woman.
If you don't really need German you don't want to learn it. Unless you
like pain. :-)
--
Andreas
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