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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-08-23 23:43 +0000 |
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The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:43 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 02:47 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-25 11:25 +0100
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 20:34 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? jerryab <jerryab@juno.com> - 2026-08-25 09:39 -0500
[OT] Arguably unreasonable crossposts (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 18:37 +0100
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:16 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 19:47 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-08-26 16:42 +0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 19:44 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-28 08:05 -0700
Re: The Return Of .... ink+pen+paper? clay tablet? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:23 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-28 11:39 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-28 13:07 -0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-28 17:36 -0500
Re: The Return Of ... Dark Age? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:33 +0800
Re: The Return Of .... monks laboriously copying a manuscript by hand? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:26 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:38 +0200
Re: The Return Of ... replication old things? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-30 04:43 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:02 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-28 22:20 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-29 03:51 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-26 19:50 +1000
Re: The Return Of .... Time of creation? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:36 +0800
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 21:35 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-26 01:34 +0200
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:23 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:21 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-27 12:02 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 21:12 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-27 14:18 -0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-27 21:48 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:14 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-26 15:02 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:54 +0200
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 00:48 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 08:39 +0200
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 21:10 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-28 14:53 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-28 22:22 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-lo6-this> - 2026-08-29 08:39 -0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-29 15:47 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-29 20:16 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-29 21:07 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-30 12:18 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-30 20:36 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 03:09 +0000
Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 10:18 +0100
Re: Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-31 10:18 +0000
Re: [CORRECTION] Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-31 10:24 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:31 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:24 +0100
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 20:00 +0000
Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 06:48 -0700
Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-30 12:48 -0700
Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:04 +0200
Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-09-11 15:16 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-31 09:22 -0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-09-11 14:46 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-27 01:22 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com> - 2026-08-28 01:09 -0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-28 11:43 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 08:45 -0700
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 21:35 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-29 00:20 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-29 09:55 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-25 15:07 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:13 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:08 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 00:45 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-27 11:58 -0400
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-26 14:11 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 00:52 +0000
Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 08:44 +0200
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| From | "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-lo6-this> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 08:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6A92FD24.16223.news.afc@realitycheckbbs.org> |
| In reply to | #235415 |
To: SpallsHurgenson(NG)
-=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never
Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two
Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the
Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always
Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks.
I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM
ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT
keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on.
The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial
cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*...
kurt weiske | kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org
| http://realitycheckbbs.org
| 1:218/700@fidonet
Sp> Well, at least until the files started getting TOO large to fit on the
Sp> disk. But with 1.44mb floppy disks and good compression, you could
Sp> usually squeeze 2MB of data or more on the disk... and really, who
Sp> needs files larger than that? 2MB ought to be enough for everybody! ;-)
Sp> #
Sp> I still have an ancient PC with an IDE Zip-Drive in it. It still
Sp> works (and so do the disks. Click-of-death was an undeniable issue, but
Sp> it really wasn't as common as it's sometimes made out to be).
Sp> Unfortunately, I don't have a SECOND computer with a ZIP drive, which
Sp> limits the utility of the first ;-)
Sp> --- Synchronet 3.22a-Win32 NewsLink 1.2
--- MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Win32 NewsLink 1.2
* realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 15:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <116vd0q$3gprh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #235449 |
Kurt Weiske wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > To: SpallsHurgenson(NG) > -=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=- > > Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never > Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two > Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the > Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always > Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks. > > I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM > ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT > keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on. > > The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial > cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*... I still have a USB-to-DB9 that I used for testing on Cisco routers in racks in boxcars to be shipped overseas. Used gtkterm iirc. -- Loose bits sink chips.
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| From | Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 20:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18d05ffd351ea13e$201169$566809$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #235456 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 15:47:38 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Kurt Weiske wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > >> To: SpallsHurgenson(NG) >> -=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=- >> >> Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never >> Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two >> Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the >> Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always >> Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks. >> >> I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM >> ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT >> keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on. >> >> The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial >> cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*... > > I still have a USB-to-DB9 that I used for testing on Cisco routers in > racks in boxcars to be shipped overseas. Used gtkterm iirc. I think you both mean DE-9.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 21:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ASHkS.84142$Rhua.59606@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #235460 |
On 2026-08-29, Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 15:47:38 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> I still have a USB-to-DB9 that I used for testing on Cisco routers in >> racks in boxcars to be shipped overseas. Used gtkterm iirc. > > I think you both mean DE-9. Thanks. It's good to know I'm not the only nitpicker here. As for the rest of you, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature#Common_misnomers -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 12:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1171l56$6pen$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #235460 |
Bob Eager wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 15:47:38 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Kurt Weiske wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>>
>>> To: SpallsHurgenson(NG)
>>> -=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>>
>>> Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never
>>> Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two
>>> Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the
>>> Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always
>>> Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks.
>>>
>>> I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM
>>> ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT
>>> keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on.
>>>
>>> The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial
>>> cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*...
>>
>> I still have a USB-to-DB9 that I used for testing on Cisco routers in
>> racks in boxcars to be shipped overseas. Used gtkterm iirc.
>
> I think you both mean DE-9.
"A DE-9 connector is a small, 9-pin analog plug from the
D-subminiature family, commonly and widely known as a DB-9
connector."
--
QOTD:
"Like this rose, our love will wilt and die."
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| From | Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 20:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18d0afaa548fdfec$174449$916706$44d50e60@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #235482 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 12:18:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Bob Eager wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): No, I didn't. >> I think you both mean DE-9. > > "A DE-9 connector is a small, 9-pin analog plug from the > D-subminiature family, commonly and widely known as a DB-9 > connector." And incorrectly. The 9 refers to the number of pins. The DSE refers to the shell size. DB is the shell size commonly used for 25 pin connectors. And a DE-15 is a typical VGA connector.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 03:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfk9jjFprcuU85@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #235485 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 20:36:38 +0000, Bob Eager wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 12:18:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> Bob Eager wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): > > No, I didn't. > >>> I think you both mean DE-9. >> >> "A DE-9 connector is a small, 9-pin analog plug from the >> D-subminiature family, commonly and widely known as a DB-9 >> connector." > > And incorrectly. The 9 refers to the number of pins. The DSE refers to > the shell size. DB is the shell size commonly used for 25 pin > connectors. And a DE-15 is a typical VGA connector. When's the last time you asked someone for a 'facial tissue'. You probably would get more blank stares asking for a DE-9 than a DB-9 outside of geek world.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 10:18 +0100 |
| Subject | Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <1173gtq$pajo$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #235487 |
On 2026-08-31, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 20:36:38 +0000, Bob Eager wrote: > >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 12:18:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> >>> Bob Eager wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed): >> >> No, I didn't. >> >>>> I think you both mean DE-9. >>> >>> "A DE-9 connector is a small, 9-pin analog plug from the >>> D-subminiature family, commonly and widely known as a DB-9 >>> connector." >> >> And incorrectly. The 9 refers to the number of pins. The DSE refers to >> the shell size. DB is the shell size commonly used for 25 pin >> connectors. And a DE-15 is a typical VGA connector. > > When's the last time you asked someone for a 'facial tissue'. You probably > would get more blank stares asking for a DE-9 than a DB-9 outside of geek > world. It's perhaps close enough that those who don't know it's DE-9 could end up assuming it's what they call "DB-9". Isn't there a similar situation with unkeyed 8P8C being called "RJ45"? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 10:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <18d0dc829bcfea6a$4622$1935348$4cd50660@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #235490 |
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 10:18:50 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: >> When's the last time you asked someone for a 'facial tissue'. You >> probably would get more blank stares asking for a DE-9 than a DB-9 >> outside of geek world. > > It's perhaps close enough that those who don't know it's DE-9 could end > up assuming it's what they call "DB-9". A good example is the 15 pin game port connector (now superseded by USB). Those who stick to the 'DB' terminology would be unable to differentiate between the game port and a 9 pin (e.g. serial) connector. The former is DA-15 and the latter is DE-15.
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| From | Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 10:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [CORRECTION] Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <18d0dcd4fe24abb0$4623$1935348$4cd50660@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #235491 |
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 10:18:25 +0000, Bob Eager wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 10:18:50 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > >>> When's the last time you asked someone for a 'facial tissue'. You >>> probably would get more blank stares asking for a DE-9 than a DB-9 >>> outside of geek world. >> >> It's perhaps close enough that those who don't know it's DE-9 could end >> up assuming it's what they call "DB-9". > > A good example is the 15 pin game port connector (now superseded by > USB). > > Those who stick to the 'DB' terminology would be unable to differentiate > between the game port and a 9 pin (e.g. serial) connector. > > The former is DA-15 and the latter is DE-15. Oops. I can only plead that I had a bad night and am not awake yet. That SHOULD read: Those who stick to the 'DB' terminology would be unable to differentiate between the game port and a 15 pin VGA connector. The former is DA-15 and the latter is DE-15.
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| From | SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1788042690-14325@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #235449 |
"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-lo6-this> posted: > To: SpallsHurgenson(NG) > -=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=- > > Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never > Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two > Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the > Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always > Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks. > > I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM > ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT > keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on. > > The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial > cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*... I admire your ability to discard. I still have a host of old cables. I'd be more willing to toss them out if --time and time again-- I didn't find use for the old things. Sure, I might not need that SCSI-50-to-25 cable /right now/ but who knows what may happen in the next twenty years? There's many the time I've been working on a project and have kicked myself for discarding some 'obsolete' component ten years back that would have been perfect for just that moment. That said... I probably /could/ survive a culling of some of the IEC power cables. I'm pretty sure those things breed like rabbits, I've so many of them.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 10:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1170ss4$3u4us$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #235473 |
On 2026-08-29, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-lo6-this> posted:
>
>> To: SpallsHurgenson(NG)
>> -=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>
>> Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never
>> Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two
>> Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the
>> Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always
>> Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks.
>>
>> I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM
>> ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT
>> keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on.
>>
>> The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial
>> cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*...
>
>
> I admire your ability to discard. I still have a host of old cables. I'd
> be more willing to toss them out if --time and time again-- I didn't find
> use for the old things. Sure, I might not need that SCSI-50-to-25 cable
> /right now/ but who knows what may happen in the next twenty years? There's
> many the time I've been working on a project and have kicked myself for
> discarding some 'obsolete' component ten years back that would have been
> perfect for just that moment.
>
> That said... I probably /could/ survive a culling of some of the
> IEC power cables. I'm pretty sure those things breed like rabbits, I've
> so many of them.
A rule/law should be established that states that
Regarding computer and equipment cables, for a given type, one will
either 1) have not enough such cables, 2) have too many such cables.
But I'm guessing someone already stated that at some point :-P
I have somewhere a couple boxes with at least two multi-media PCI
ethernet cards and cabling and terminators because, while I currently
don't have the time or space, that means I can set up a 10base2 LAN
again when time and space allows. (And PCI means I'm more likely to have
or find a couple desktop computers that can use them.)
--
Nuno Silva
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 20:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfjgenFprcuU80@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #235476 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 10:24:20 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > A rule/law should be established that states that > > Regarding computer and equipment cables, for a given type, one will > either 1) have not enough such cables, 2) have too many such cables. > > But I'm guessing someone already stated that at some point :-P There is a similar law in plumbing. Whatever fitting you need the one you have on hand will be the wrong sex.
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 06:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <1171cao$3ung$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #235473 |
On 2026-08-29 15:31, SpallsHurgenson (NG) wrote: > "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-lo6-this> posted: >> To: SpallsHurgenson(NG) >> -=> SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=- >> >> Sp> I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never >> Sp> satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two >> Sp> computers, which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the >> Sp> machines to handshake, and the slow-transfer rates... it was always >> Sp> easier for me, back then, to just yank out the floppy disks. >> >> I have gotten rid of many obsolete cables over the years - first MFM >> ribbon cables, then ATA cables, then older USB cables, an old AT >> keyboard extension cable, parallel cables, and the list goes on. >> >> The one legacy cable I keep around is a laplink DB9 to DB9 serial >> cable. I'm sure it'll come in handy *someday*... > > > I admire your ability to discard. I still have a host of old cables. I'd > be more willing to toss them out if --time and time again-- I didn't find > use for the old things. Sure, I might not need that SCSI-50-to-25 cable > /right now/ but who knows what may happen in the next twenty years? There's > many the time I've been working on a project and have kicked myself for > discarding some 'obsolete' component ten years back that would have been > perfect for just that moment. > > That said... I probably /could/ survive a culling of some of the > IEC power cables. I'm pretty sure those things breed like rabbits, I've > so many of them. I am also a hoarder - because I have been burned by having culled stuffed that turned out to be irreplaceable. I suppose by IEC power cables, you mean the NEMA 5-15 to IEC 60320 type C13 cable. It is true that as you throw out old computers and buy newer ones, you accumulate a bunch of them. I also regularly use NEMA 5-15 to IEC C5, and NEMA 1-15 to IEC C7. And since I regularly (every year or two) visit family in Denmark, I often need an "Europlug" or "type C" male to NEMA 1-15 female adapter. Right now, I am accumulating a ton of USB-A male to USB-C male, most of them either 6 inches long or 6 feet long, while I am having to buy some 2 feet long. -- Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <2iYkS.50889$Lg4.4740@fx05.iad> |
| In reply to | #235480 |
On 2026-08-30, Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote: > Right now, I am accumulating a ton of USB-A male to USB-C male, most of > them either 6 inches long or 6 feet long, while I am having to buy some > 2 feet long. I recently separated part of my mass of cables into a series of ziploc bags, one for DVI/HDMI, one for USB, etc. I need to keep a variety of USB cables: in addition to the new favourite A to C I still need A to B, micro, mini, and a proprietary connector for my Olympus camera. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 12:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <11721dk$bik7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #235481 |
On 8/30/26 08:49, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-30, Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote: > >> Right now, I am accumulating a ton of USB-A male to USB-C male, most of >> them either 6 inches long or 6 feet long, while I am having to buy some >> 2 feet long. > > I recently separated part of my mass of cables into a series of > ziploc bags, one for DVI/HDMI, one for USB, etc. I need to keep > a variety of USB cables: in addition to the new favourite A to C > I still need A to B, micro, mini, and a proprietary connector for > my Olympus camera. > I also recently repacked my cables in ziplocs. No more tangles! And labeling the bags makes it simple to find what I need.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 13:04 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <2n3gmmx832.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #235483 |
On 2026-08-30 21:48, Peter Flass wrote: > On 8/30/26 08:49, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-08-30, Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote: >> >>> Right now, I am accumulating a ton of USB-A male to USB-C male, most of >>> them either 6 inches long or 6 feet long, while I am having to buy some >>> 2 feet long. >> >> I recently separated part of my mass of cables into a series of >> ziploc bags, one for DVI/HDMI, one for USB, etc. I need to keep >> a variety of USB cables: in addition to the new favourite A to C >> I still need A to B, micro, mini, and a proprietary connector for >> my Olympus camera. >> > > I also recently repacked my cables in ziplocs. No more tangles! And > labeling the bags makes it simple to find what I need. Indeed. I have done that in my small suitcase of electronic cables and things, which I use when I temporarily go to another place. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) |
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| Date | 2026-09-11 15:16 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) |
| Message-ID | <IXUoS.6128$ewe8.2106@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #235480 |
In article <1171cao$3ung$1@dont-email.me>, Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote: >Right now, I am accumulating a ton of USB-A male to USB-C male, most of >them either 6 inches long or 6 feet long, while I am having to buy some >2 feet long. I cut the cable clutter in my computer bag by only bringing a few USB-C cables and a "snack bag" full of adapters to turn them into whatever type of cable I need. Need USB-A on one end and MicroUSB-B 3.0 on the other end? It's in there. Need a data blocker to use with that public charger? It's in there. -- _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail) (IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting! \_^_/ >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 09:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20260831092230.00004a83@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #235473 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:31:30 GMT SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: > That said... I probably /could/ survive a culling of some of the > IEC power cables. I'm pretty sure those things breed like rabbits, > I've so many of them. That's what I always tell myself...right up 'til I need one, at which point there's not a free cable to be found :/
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| From | scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) |
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| Date | 2026-09-11 14:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fvUoS.2103$zU_d.1436@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #235415 |
In article <1787928830-14325@newsgrouper.org>, SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> posted: >> Before networked computers, I transferred data via serial or parallel >> computer, thus involving two computers. > >I occasionally tried null-modem cables for transfer. It was never >satisfactory for me. Firstly, you were always limited to just two computers, >which meant a lot of cable swapping. Then getting the machines to handshake, >and the slow-transfer rates... it was always easier for me, back then, to >just yank out the floppy disks. Trading floppies didn't work at all for moving data between different types of computers. About 35 years ago, I was running a BBS on my Apple IIe. While the BBS was running, I couldn't use the computer for anything else. To free it up for my own use again, I pieced together my first x86 box with a fast modem (14.4 kbps vs. 2400 bps in the IIe), a big hard drive (120 MB IDE vs. 40 MB SCSI in the IIe), and a 286. With DR DOS and DESQview, it even had some limited but usable multitasking capability. I put one of those 2-way rotary switchboxes on the IIe's serial port to switch it between the printer and a serial port on the 286. ZMODEM transfers between the two machines ran reliably at 19.2 kbps, which would transfer a whole floppy's worth (140K) of data in a little over a minute. The completely different format between the two machines (not just ProDOS vs. FAT filesystems, but also GCR vs. MFM, single-sided vs. double-sided, double-density vs. high-density) would've precluded just shuffling disks between the two. Once everything was dialed in (and that didn't take long), serial transfers worked pretty well IME. -- _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail) (IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting! \_^_/ >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
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