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Re: Where do byte orders come from

From Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Where do byte orders come from
Date 2020-08-11 03:42 -0300
Organization Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
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maus <maus@dmaus.org> writes:

> Having plowed with a horse once, instructed by my future Father in law,
> you start about 10 feet from the edge, plow to the far edge of the field
> leaving a 'headland' unplowed (about 10 ten feet again), get the plow
> out of the ground,  turn horse and plow to the opposite direction.
> point it into the  ground again  again turning a 'sod' to face
> the sod that you have turned on the other side. repeat. Surprisingly
> skillful and somewhat like arranging letters on a page.

The walking plow I used 40 years ago had a feature such that after
turning the horse & plow but before beginning the furrow, you lifted
the handles of the plow and kicked a latch.  The moldboard flipped
from one side to the other without moving the plow point.  Then the
ensuing furrow's sod was turned in the same direction as the previous
one.  Repeat on each turn.

There's evidence in old farms around here that many fields were
repeatedly plowed turning the sod down hill, presumably because it was
slightly (significantly?) less work for the horse.  Over a generation
or two the result was to move the entire field's topsoil down hill,
leaving the upper part of the field with little or no topsoil.  An
interesting curiosity about which I've been unable to ask the people
who knew.  By the time I came to it, a few old timers knew how to do
it but it was their fathers or grandfathers who had actually worked
the land with a walking plow.

> Sometime soon, the world will run out of fuel oil, and people  will
> have to learn  it all again.

It took a thousand years and an industrial revolution based on copious
supplies of raw materials to achieve what we now think of a primitive
self-reliance. 

> I will look down, or up, and laugh.
> 
> Oh, did someone complain about irrelevence.?
> 
> I was in Ugarit once. That sea gate is eerie.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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