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Re: Why would science pretend that evolution is true if it isn't? "W.T.S., ghq3The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-31 13:11 -0500
Re: Why would science pretend that evolution is true if it isn't? tesla sTinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> - 2016-12-10 12:25 -0800
Re: Why would science pretend that evolution is true if it isn't? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-12-10 15:45 -0800
Re: Why would science pretend that evolution is true if it isn't? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-12-12 02:45 +0000
| From | "W.T.S., ghq3The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-31 13:11 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Why would science pretend that evolution is true if it isn't? |
| Message-ID | <XnsA6B28625E7CA3m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170> |
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:FNCdnQ8ydemc14rFnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote in message
> news:b3854d15-bba4-4eaf-a425-bab45644ce01@googlegroups.com...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote:
>>>
>>> > WELL? WHAT REASON WOULD THE ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY
>>> > HAVE FOR SAYING EVOLUTION IS TRUE IS IT IS NOT?
>>>
>>> Good question.
>>>
>>> A lot has to do with how the word is defined.
>>
>> The definition referring to the theory credited to Charles Darwin.
>
> There are meanings attributed to the word that do not go that far.
>
> So one may say they believe in evolution, but not in the common
> descent idea as expressed by Darwin.
>
>>> But you are correct, the "goo to you" story is
>>> a clever fantasy that has deceived the gullible
>>> masses.
>>
>> Are you referring to the fact that the evidence says we all have a
>> common ancestor?
>
> The evidence may be interpreted that way, but that would be an
> incorrect interpretation.
>
>> Now, why do people think that Darwin's theory of evolution
>> through natural selection is part of a giant hoax perpetrated
>> by the entire scientific community, to keep us from knowing
>> that the theory and the evidence from 150 years and the spinoff
>> technologies are all fake?
>>
>> It should be noted that it is only an infinitesimally small
>> number of people who think Darwin's theory is a hoax.
>
> It is true that the gullible masses have been deceived,
> but those who value the truth can see the falsehood.
Have a dose of the truth, Andrew86:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District>
<http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc>
<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-t
o-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>
<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>
<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers>
<http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9>
<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s>
<http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjFgcOId-ZY>
<http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5>
<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>
<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>
<http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/>
<http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>
<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>
<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-ber
linski/>
<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>
<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-answe
rs-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>
<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>
<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>
<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>
<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_
r=0>
<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>
<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>
<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>
<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-debun
ked>
<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>
<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>
<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>
<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-fu
ture-adam-rutherford-review>
<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>
<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-t
hink-of-michio-kaku/>
<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>
<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>
<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>
<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>
<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>
<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>
<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>
<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>
<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>
<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>
"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>
<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>
<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>
<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>
<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur>
<http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq>
<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>
<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>
<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>
<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ibEaIPtMk>
<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>
<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>
<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>
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| From | tesla sTinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> |
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| Date | 2016-12-10 12:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o2ho87$o7c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #863 |
Why, ? AN exceedingly stupid question. Same as why does one go to work for the government? $$$ Same as why does the government hide the truths of true religion of the true Catholic Church from stupid people. Same as when they crucified Christ. $$$ Greed is always the answer. Judas and his silver. And always, Greed is full of sin... EXAMPLE; its not the pollution that has caused the warming on earth. That is just the excuse political s use to make their money with. When in fact, its the space junk in orbit, pulling on the gravitational fields of the earth in lopsidedness. 8On 10/31/2016 11:11 AM, W.T.S., ghq3The Lamp of Golden Truth!* wrote: > "Andrew"<andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in > news:FNCdnQ8ydemc14rFnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@earthlink.com: > >> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote in message >> news:b3854d15-bba4-4eaf-a425-bab45644ce01@googlegroups.com... >>> Andrew wrote: >>>> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote: >>>> >>>>> WELL? WHAT REASON WOULD THE ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY >>>>> HAVE FOR SAYING EVOLUTION IS TRUE IS IT IS NOT? >>>> >>>> Good question. >>>> >>>> A lot has to do with how the word is defined. >>> >>> The definition referring to the theory credited to Charles Darwin. >> >> There are meanings attributed to the word that do not go that far. >> >> So one may say they believe in evolution, but not in the common >> descent idea as expressed by Darwin. >> >>>> But you are correct, the "goo to you" story is >>>> a clever fantasy that has deceived the gullible >>>> masses. >>> >>> Are you referring to the fact that the evidence says we all have a >>> common ancestor? >> >> The evidence may be interpreted that way, but that would be an >> incorrect interpretation. >> >>> Now, why do people think that Darwin's theory of evolution >>> through natural selection is part of a giant hoax perpetrated >>> by the entire scientific community, to keep us from knowing >>> that the theory and the evidence from 150 years and the spinoff >>> technologies are all fake? >>> >>> It should be noted that it is only an infinitesimally small >>> number of people who think Darwin's theory is a hoax. >> >> It is true that the gullible masses have been deceived, >> but those who value the truth can see the falsehood. > Have a dose of the truth, Andrew86: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District> > > <http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc> > > <https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-t > o-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zascach> > > <http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9> > > <http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww> > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjFgcOId-ZY> > > <http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5> > > <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn> > > <http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication> > > <http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9> > > <https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-ber > linski/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2> > > <https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-answe > rs-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate> > > <http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d> > > <http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists- > say/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k> > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?_ > r=0> > > <http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta> > > <http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy> > > <http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao> > > <https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-debun > ked> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr> > > <http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism> > > <http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq> > > <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-fu > ture-adam-rutherford-review> > > <http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y> > > <http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-t > hink-of-michio-kaku/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg> > > <http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16> > > <http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin> > > <http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel> > > <http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution> > > <http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk> > > <http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/> > > <http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v> > > <http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html> > > <http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj> > > "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false. > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould> > > <http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub> > > <http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution> > > <http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe> > > <http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur> > > <http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq> > > <http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys> > > <http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan> > > <http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home> > > <http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak> > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ibEaIPtMk> > > <http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb> > > <http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit> > > <http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-10 15:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-CDD890.15455210122016@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1041 |
In article <o2ho87$o7c$1@dont-email.me>, tesla sTinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> wrote: > Why, ? > AN exceedingly stupid question. Same as why does one go to work for the > government? $$$ Same as why does the government hide the truths of > true religion of the true Catholic Church from stupid people. Same as > when they crucified Christ. $$$ Greed is always the answer. Judas and > his silver. And always, Greed is full of sin... > > EXAMPLE; its not the pollution that has caused the warming on earth. > That is just the excuse political s use to make their money with. > When in fact, its the space junk in orbit, pulling on the gravitational > fields of the earth in lopsidedness. Is this a new extremely loony spouting insane nonsense, or an old one losing it even more. -- JD I'm a "nasty woman" and I vote.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-12-12 02:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o2l311$1lai$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1041 |
On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:25:00 -0800, tesla sTinker wrote: > Why, ? > AN exceedingly stupid question. Same as why does one go to work for the > government? $$$ Same as why does the government hide the truths of > true religion of the true Catholic Church from stupid people. Same as > when they crucified Christ. $$$ Greed is always the answer. Judas and > his silver. And always, Greed is full of sin... > > EXAMPLE; its not the pollution that has caused the warming on earth. > That is just the excuse political s use to make their money with. > When in fact, its the space junk in orbit, pulling on the gravitational > fields of the earth in lopsidedness. Yes, and if we put more junk up there the lopsidedness in gravitation will increase until things and people start floating off into space... Invest in anchors!!! -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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