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More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers

Started byLucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com>
First post2016-10-08 19:30 +1100
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  More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:30 +1100
    Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:37 +1100
    Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:43 +1100
    Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:46 +1100
    Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-08 17:26 +0000
      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-10 12:21 -0500
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-10 12:30 -0500
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-10 19:22 +0000
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 20:07 +0000
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-10 16:31 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 04:56 +0000
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:37 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-10 17:24 -0700
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-11 15:21 +1100
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:34 -0500
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 07:50 -0700
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:14 -0500
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-11 17:09 +0000
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:26 +0000
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:20 +1100
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 18:50 -0700
                  Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-10-12 00:54 -0400
                  Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-12 23:40 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:51 +1100

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#551

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
Message-ID<931qvbhi1fjd9kiae4uufqdbrid31i2njj@4ax.com>
In reply to#540
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:34:41 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
><Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>><hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
>>>> >> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
>>>> >> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
>>>> >> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godâ??s goodness.
>>>> >> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed â??acts of
>>>> >> Godâ?? while no â??creditâ?? is given to God for years, decades, or even
>>>> >> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
>>>> >> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
>>>> >> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
>>>> >> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
>>>> >> the earthâ??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
>>>> >> underwater earthquake.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
>>>> >> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
>>>> >> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in Deuteronomy
>>>> >> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
>>>> >> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
>>>> >> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described as
>>>> >> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
>>>> >> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
>>>> >> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
>>>> >> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, â??The creation waits in eager
>>>> >> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
>>>> >> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the
>>>> >> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated
>>>> >> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
>>>> >> children of God.â?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
>>>> >> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
>>>> >> subject to â??frustrationâ?? and â??decay.â?? Sin is the ultimate cause
>>>> >> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
>>>> >> suffering.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not understand
>>>> >> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
>>>> >> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
>>>> >> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
>>>> >> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about eternity.
>>>> >> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
>>>> >> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
>>>> >> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
>>>> >> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
>>>> >> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
>>>> >> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars in
>>>> >> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
>>>> >> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
>>>> >> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
>>>> >> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> =====================
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
>>>> >> do.
>>>> >
>>>> >They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
>>>> >pretending they do.
>>>> >
>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
>>>
>>>
>>>Not even one.
>>
>>I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
>>have made him that way.
>>
>>>JD
>>
>God 

Idiot.

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#552

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-10-11 17:09 +0000
Message-ID<ntj6co$sev$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#540
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:34:41 -0500, Gordon wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:

<snip>

>>I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not have
>>made him that way.
>>
>>>JD
>>
> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God has
> allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and to put
> us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the vagaries
> of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and mess around
> with any form of it any further once we've been granted immortality and
> absolute sovereignty.
> 
> Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
> God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
> this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
> eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon

Thanks for showing that you're a Satanist.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#556

FromBob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<9pfstq.l6g.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#552
Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:34:41 -0500, Gordon wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not have
>>> made him that way.
>>> 
>>>> JD
>>> 
>> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God has
>> allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and to put
>> us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the vagaries
>> of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and mess around
>> with any form of it any further once we've been granted immortality and
>> absolute sovereignty.
>> 
>> Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
>> God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
>> this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
>> eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon
> 
> Thanks for showing that you're a Satanist.
> 

The funny thing is you may be right. 

http://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/causes-of-colour-blindness/

Gordon is male.
Gordon's brother has red-green color blindness.
Red green color blindness is inherited from the x-chromosome, which you get
from your father.

So we now know Gordon's father was Satan, right?

If Gordon has any male children the odds he has passed the recessive gene
forward is near 100%.
Blink, Could  that make gordon his brother's father?  Sort of an odd twist
on the father son and spook?

-- 
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. 
 John Cleese on Stupidity  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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#557

FromLucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com>
Date2016-10-12 10:20 +1100
Message-ID<jssqvbd27mmlrrovs0b1gmfb1d9a6kq8pj@4ax.com>
In reply to#552
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:09:45 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:34:41 -0500, Gordon wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not have
>>>made him that way.
>>>
>>>>JD
>>>
>> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God has
>> allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and to put
>> us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the vagaries
>> of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and mess around
>> with any form of it any further once we've been granted immortality and
>> absolute sovereignty.
>> 
>> Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
>> God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
>> this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
>> eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon
>
>Thanks for showing that you're a Satanist.

Gordon is a Satanist and a Mormon.

>-- 
>Smiler, The godless one.

-- 
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions

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#553

FromBob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
Message-ID<9pfrvs.fs2.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#540
Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
>>>>>> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
>>>>>> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
>>>>>> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godâ??s goodness.
>>>>>> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed â??acts of
>>>>>> Godâ?? while no â??creditâ?? is given to God for years, decades, or even
>>>>>> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
>>>>>> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
>>>>>> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
>>>>>> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
>>>>>> the earthâ??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
>>>>>> underwater earthquake.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
>>>>>> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
>>>>>> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in Deuteronomy
>>>>>> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
>>>>>> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
>>>>>> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described as
>>>>>> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
>>>>>> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
>>>>>> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
>>>>>> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, â??The creation waits in eager
>>>>>> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
>>>>>> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the
>>>>>> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated
>>>>>> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
>>>>>> children of God.â?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
>>>>>> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
>>>>>> subject to â??frustrationâ?? and â??decay.â?? Sin is the ultimate cause
>>>>>> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
>>>>>> suffering.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not understand
>>>>>> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
>>>>>> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
>>>>>> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
>>>>>> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about eternity.
>>>>>> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
>>>>>> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
>>>>>> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
>>>>>> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
>>>>>> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
>>>>>> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars in
>>>>>> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
>>>>>> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
>>>>>> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
>>>>>> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
>>>>>> do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
>>>>> pretending they do.
>>>>> 
>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not even one.
>> 
>> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
>> have made him that way.
>> 
>>> JD
>> 
> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God

You do not understand the genetics  of color blindness. 

The gene for color blindness red-green,is passed on the X chromosome. Since
the source of the X chromosome is alway the male, the disorder is only
passed on through the male side of the line in most cases. 

http://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/causes-of-colour-blindness/

If you do not understand this odds are you passed the gene onwards to any
of your own male children.

And very stupidly, you just named yourself as "son of Satan".  You are just
stupid beyond belief.. I wonder where did that defect come from?

> has allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and
> to put us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the
> vagaries of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and
> mess around with any form of it any further once we've been granted
> immortality and absolute sovereignty. 
> 
> Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
> God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
> this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
> eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon
> 



-- 
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. 
 John Cleese on Stupidity  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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#560

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-10-11 18:50 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-959530.18500511102016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#553
In article <9pfrvs.fs2.19.1@news.alt.net>,
 Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
> > <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> >> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
> >>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
> >>>>>> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
> >>>>>> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
> >>>>>> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godâ??s goodness.
> >>>>>> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed â??acts of
> >>>>>> Godâ?? while no â??creditâ?? is given to God for years, decades, or 
> >>>>>> even
> >>>>>> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
> >>>>>> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
> >>>>>> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
> >>>>>> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
> >>>>>> the earthâ??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
> >>>>>> underwater earthquake.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
> >>>>>> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
> >>>>>> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in 
> >>>>>> Deuteronomy
> >>>>>> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
> >>>>>> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
> >>>>>> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described 
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
> >>>>>> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
> >>>>>> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
> >>>>>> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, â??The creation waits in eager
> >>>>>> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
> >>>>>> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of 
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be 
> >>>>>> liberated
> >>>>>> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
> >>>>>> children of God.â?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
> >>>>>> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
> >>>>>> subject to â??frustrationâ?? and â??decay.â?? Sin is the ultimate 
> >>>>>> cause
> >>>>>> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
> >>>>>> suffering.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not 
> >>>>>> understand
> >>>>>> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
> >>>>>> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
> >>>>>> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
> >>>>>> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about 
> >>>>>> eternity.
> >>>>>> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
> >>>>>> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
> >>>>>> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
> >>>>>> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
> >>>>>> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
> >>>>>> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars 
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
> >>>>>> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
> >>>>>> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
> >>>>>> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> =====================
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
> >>>>>> do.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
> >>>>> pretending they do.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
> >>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Not even one.
> >> 
> >> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
> >> have made him that way.
> >> 
> >>> JD
> >> 
> > God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God
> 
> You do not understand the genetics  of color blindness. 
> 
> The gene for color blindness red-green,is passed on the X chromosome. Since
> the source of the X chromosome is alway the male, 

You've got it backwards. The Y chromosome is the one that comes from the 
male.


> the disorder is only
> passed on through the male side of the line in most cases. 
> 
> http://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/causes-of-colour-blindnes
> s/
> 
> If you do not understand this odds are you passed the gene onwards to any
> of your own male children.
> 
> And very stupidly, you just named yourself as "son of Satan".  You are just
> stupid beyond belief.. I wonder where did that defect come from?
> 
> > has allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and
> > to put us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the
> > vagaries of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and
> > mess around with any form of it any further once we've been granted
> > immortality and absolute sovereignty. 
> > 
> > Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
> > God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
> > this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
> > eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon
> >

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#561

FromMike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net>
Date2016-10-12 00:54 -0400
Message-ID<1b45hyfr55exj$.r90nvng1w2vu.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#560
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:50:06 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

>  Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>> You do not understand the genetics  of color blindness. 
>> The gene for color blindness red-green,is passed on the X chromosome.
>> Since the source of the X chromosome is alway the male, 
> 
> You've got it backwards. The Y chromosome is the one
> that comes from the male.

While it is true that the Y comes from the male (all Y chromosomes come
from the male parent), it is false to say that the X coming from the
male is 'backwards'. 'Incorrect', but not 'backwards', because females
do get an X from their father.

The X chromosome is posessed by both male and females. A female has 2
Xs; she gets one from each parent. A male has one X, from his mother.

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#566

FromBob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-10-12 23:40 +0000
Message-ID<9pj76u.fm0.17.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#560
Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <9pfrvs.fs2.19.1@news.alt.net>,
>  Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
>>> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
>>>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
>>>>>>>> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
>>>>>>>> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
>>>>>>>> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godâ??s goodness.
>>>>>>>> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed â??acts of
>>>>>>>> Godâ?? while no â??creditâ?? is given to God for years, decades, or 
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
>>>>>>>> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
>>>>>>>> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
>>>>>>>> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
>>>>>>>> the earthâ??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
>>>>>>>> underwater earthquake.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
>>>>>>>> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
>>>>>>>> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in 
>>>>>>>> Deuteronomy
>>>>>>>> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
>>>>>>>> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
>>>>>>>> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described 
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
>>>>>>>> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
>>>>>>>> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
>>>>>>>> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, â??The creation waits in eager
>>>>>>>> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
>>>>>>>> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be 
>>>>>>>> liberated
>>>>>>>> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
>>>>>>>> children of God.â?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
>>>>>>>> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
>>>>>>>> subject to â??frustrationâ?? and â??decay.â?? Sin is the ultimate 
>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
>>>>>>>> suffering.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not 
>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
>>>>>>>> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
>>>>>>>> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
>>>>>>>> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about 
>>>>>>>> eternity.
>>>>>>>> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
>>>>>>>> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
>>>>>>>> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
>>>>>>>> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
>>>>>>>> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
>>>>>>>> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
>>>>>>>> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
>>>>>>>> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
>>>>>>>> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
>>>>>>> pretending they do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
>>>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not even one.
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
>>>> have made him that way.
>>>> 
>>>>> JD
>>>> 
>>> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God
>> 
>> You do not understand the genetics  of color blindness. 
>> 
>> The gene for color blindness red-green,is passed on the X chromosome. Since
>> the source of the X chromosome is alway the male, 
> 
> You've got it backwards. The Y chromosome is the one that comes from the 
> male.

It dawn on me I had switched them, but one after I made the same error
several times. It is amazing how things you don't use all the time tend to
get switched around.

The trait is passed by the mother to the male child.

So his mother was Satan.

>> the disorder is only
>> passed on through the male side of the line in most cases. 
>> 
>> http://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/causes-of-colour-blindnes
>> s/
>> 
>> If you do not understand this odds are you passed the gene onwards to any
>> of your own male children.
>> 
>> And very stupidly, you just named yourself as "son of Satan".  You are just
>> stupid beyond belief.. I wonder where did that defect come from?
>> 
>>> has allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and
>>> to put us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the
>>> vagaries of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and
>>> mess around with any form of it any further once we've been granted
>>> immortality and absolute sovereignty. 
>>> 
>>> Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
>>> God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
>>> this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
>>> eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon
>>> 
> 



-- 
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 John Cleese on Stupidity  
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#558

FromLucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com>
Date2016-10-12 10:51 +1100
Message-ID<cluqvbpg5gst408795osg0gghs9orsjg77@4ax.com>
In reply to#540
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:34:41 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
wrote:
  
>On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
><Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>><hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
>>>> >> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
>>>> >> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
>>>> >> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question God's goodness.
>>>> >> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed "acts of
>>>> >> God" while no credit is given to God for years, decades, or even
>>>> >> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
>>>> >> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
>>>> >> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
>>>> >> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
>>>> >> the earth's plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
>>>> >> underwater earthquake.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
>>>> >> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
>>>> >> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in Deuteronomy
>>>> >> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
>>>> >> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
>>>> >> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described as
>>>> >> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
>>>> >> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
>>>> >> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
>>>> >> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, "The creation waits in eager
>>>> >> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
>>>> >> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the
>>>> >> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated
>>>> >> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
>>>> >> children of God." The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
>>>> >> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
>>>> >> subject to â??frustrationâ?? and â??decay.â?? Sin is the ultimate cause
>>>> >> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
>>>> >> suffering.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not understand
>>>> >> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
>>>> >> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
>>>> >> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
>>>> >> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about eternity.
>>>> >> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
>>>> >> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
>>>> >> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
>>>> >> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
>>>> >> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
>>>> >> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars in
>>>> >> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
>>>> >> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
>>>> >> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
>>>> >> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> =====================
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
>>>> >> do.
>>>> >
>>>> >They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
>>>> >pretending they do.
>>>> >
>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
>>>
>>>
>>>Not even one.
>>
>>I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
>>have made him that way.
>>
>>>JD
>>
>God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God
>has allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and
>to put us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the
>vagaries of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and
>mess around with any form of it any further once we've been granted
>immortality and absolute sovereignty. 

So God used a proxy but God is still ultimately responsible for
designing in the possibility of things going wrong.

>Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
>God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
>this learning phase of development.

So God failed with Lucifer and does not want to fail with us, no 
matter the cost, to us.

>It is just an instant, on God's eternity temporal scale.

You are saying God lacks empathy which makes God a psychopath.

>Cope with it and learn.   Gordon

We are learning that you are talking nonsense.
I hope you are not able to push your ideas on children.

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