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Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers

From Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian, alt.evolution
Subject Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers
Date 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
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Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
>>>>>> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
>>>>>> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
>>>>>> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godâ??s goodness.
>>>>>> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed â??acts of
>>>>>> Godâ?? while no â??creditâ?? is given to God for years, decades, or even
>>>>>> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
>>>>>> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
>>>>>> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
>>>>>> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
>>>>>> the earthâ??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
>>>>>> underwater earthquake.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
>>>>>> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
>>>>>> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in Deuteronomy
>>>>>> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
>>>>>> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
>>>>>> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described as
>>>>>> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
>>>>>> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
>>>>>> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
>>>>>> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, â??The creation waits in eager
>>>>>> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
>>>>>> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the
>>>>>> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated
>>>>>> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
>>>>>> children of God.â?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
>>>>>> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
>>>>>> subject to â??frustrationâ?? and â??decay.â?? Sin is the ultimate cause
>>>>>> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
>>>>>> suffering.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not understand
>>>>>> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
>>>>>> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
>>>>>> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
>>>>>> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about eternity.
>>>>>> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
>>>>>> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
>>>>>> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
>>>>>> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
>>>>>> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
>>>>>> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars in
>>>>>> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
>>>>>> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
>>>>>> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
>>>>>> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
>>>>>> do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
>>>>> pretending they do.
>>>>> 
>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not even one.
>> 
>> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
>> have made him that way.
>> 
>>> JD
>> 
> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, and God

You do not understand the genetics  of color blindness. 

The gene for color blindness red-green,is passed on the X chromosome. Since
the source of the X chromosome is alway the male, the disorder is only
passed on through the male side of the line in most cases. 

http://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/causes-of-colour-blindness/

If you do not understand this odds are you passed the gene onwards to any
of your own male children.

And very stupidly, you just named yourself as "son of Satan".  You are just
stupid beyond belief.. I wonder where did that defect come from?

> has allowed Satan to explore all such forms of sin and rebellion and
> to put us humans in the process so we can learn enough about all the
> vagaries of sin and rebellion, then never, ever want to go back and
> mess around with any form of it any further once we've been granted
> immortality and absolute sovereignty. 
> 
> Lucifer/Satan didn't have this learning phase before he fell away from
> God, and it is very likely that we would all do the same thing without
> this learning phase of development. It is just an instant, on God's
> eternity temporal scale. Cope with it and learn.   Gordon
> 



-- 
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. 
 John Cleese on Stupidity  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 20:07 +0000
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          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 04:56 +0000
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          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-10 17:24 -0700
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          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:34 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 07:50 -0700
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:14 -0500
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-11 17:09 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:26 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:20 +1100
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                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-10-12 00:54 -0400
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            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:51 +1100

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