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| From | Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian, alt.evolution |
| Subject | Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers |
| Date | 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000 |
| Organization | Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com |
| Message-ID | <9pfrvs.fs2.19.3@news.alt.net> (permalink) |
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Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > In article <2stpvbpb73msn9pq90p0s6u4paut10v5uk@4ax.com>, > Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar >> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas >>> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>, >>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes, >>>>>>> hurricanes, and tsunamis?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, >>>>>>> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural >>>>>>> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godā??s goodness. >>>>>>> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed ā??acts of >>>>>>> Godā?? while no ā??creditā?? is given to God for years, decades, or >>>>>>> even >>>>>>> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the >>>>>>> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of >>>>>>> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results >>>>>>> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of >>>>>>> the earthā??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an >>>>>>> underwater earthquake. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together >>>>>>> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely! >>>>>>> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in >>>>>>> Deuteronomy >>>>>>> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes >>>>>>> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of >>>>>>> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural >>>>>>> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts, >>>>>>> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on >>>>>>> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, ā??The creation waits in eager >>>>>>> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was >>>>>>> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be >>>>>>> liberated >>>>>>> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the >>>>>>> children of God.ā?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on >>>>>>> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is >>>>>>> subject to ā??frustrationā?? and ā??decay.ā?? Sin is the ultimate >>>>>>> cause >>>>>>> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and >>>>>>> suffering. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not >>>>>>> understand >>>>>>> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill >>>>>>> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to >>>>>>> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events >>>>>>> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about >>>>>>> eternity. >>>>>>> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how >>>>>>> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an >>>>>>> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles >>>>>>> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even >>>>>>> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to >>>>>>> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering. >>>>>>> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel, >>>>>>> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does, >>>>>>> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ===================== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they >>>>>>> do. >>>>>> >>>>>> They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them >>>>>> pretending they do. >>>>>> >>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in >>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities? Gordon >>>> >>>> >>>> Not even one. >>> >>> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not >>> have made him that way. >>> >>>> JD >>> >> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, > > Bullshit. Your god created Satan and made it exactly the way it is. That > makes your god completely responsible for every evil thing that your > Satan does. > > > Good thing neither one actually exists. > Gordon's dad is Satan? The red-green color blindness is, in most cases, caused by a defective gene on the X chromosome. Poor old Gordon doesn't understand the fact he may be a carrier of this gene, and passed it on to his own descendants, making him Satan. -- Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. John Cleese on Stupidity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU
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More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:30 +1100
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:37 +1100
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:43 +1100
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:46 +1100
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-08 17:26 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-10 12:21 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-10 12:30 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-10 19:22 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 20:07 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-10 16:31 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 04:56 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:37 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-10 17:24 -0700
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-11 15:21 +1100
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:34 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 07:50 -0700
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:14 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-11 17:09 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:26 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:20 +1100
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 18:50 -0700
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-10-12 00:54 -0400
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-12 23:40 +0000
Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:51 +1100
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