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Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers

From Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian, alt.evolution
Subject Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers
Date 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
Organization Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com
Message-ID <9pfrvs.fs2.19.3@news.alt.net> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com> <hlwdjsd2-A7C812.17242710102016@news.giganews.com> <g3qovb9ha1n7s1v92b89orsf6ia0krhets@4ax.com> <2stpvbpb73msn9pq90p0s6u4paut10v5uk@4ax.com> <hlwdjsd2-8C7ADF.07505611102016@news.giganews.com>

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Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <2stpvbpb73msn9pq90p0s6u4paut10v5uk@4ax.com>,
>  Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:21:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>> <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In article <idjnvbpvk4h8hiofqto84gba0vv8686qs8@4ax.com>,
>>>> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:30:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Question: "Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. earthquakes,
>>>>>>> hurricanes, and tsunamis?"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Answer: Why does God allow earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes,
>>>>>>> tsunamis, typhoons, cyclones, mudslides, wildfires, and other natural
>>>>>>> disasters? Tragedies cause many people to question Godā??s goodness.
>>>>>>> It is distressing that natural disasters are often termed ā??acts of
>>>>>>> Godā?? while no ā??creditā?? is given to God for years, decades, or 
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> centuries of peaceful weather. God created the whole universe and the
>>>>>>> laws of nature (Genesis 1:1). Most natural disasters are a result of
>>>>>>> these laws at work. Hurricanes, typhoons, and tornados are the results
>>>>>>> of divergent weather patterns colliding. Earthquakes are the result of
>>>>>>> the earthā??s plate structure shifting. A tsunami is caused by an
>>>>>>> underwater earthquake.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ holds all of nature together
>>>>>>> (Colossians 1:16-17). Could God prevent natural disasters? Absolutely!
>>>>>>> Does God sometimes influence the weather? Yes, as we see in 
>>>>>>> Deuteronomy
>>>>>>> 11:17 and James 5:17. Numbers 16:30-34 shows us that God sometimes
>>>>>>> causes natural disasters as a judgment against sin. The book of
>>>>>>> Revelation describes many events which could definitely be described 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> natural disasters (Revelation chapters 6, 8, and 16). Is every natural
>>>>>>> disaster a punishment from God? Absolutely not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In much the same way that God allows evil people to commit evil acts,
>>>>>>> God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on
>>>>>>> creation. Romans 8:19-21 tells us, ā??The creation waits in eager
>>>>>>> expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was
>>>>>>> subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be 
>>>>>>> liberated
>>>>>>> from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the
>>>>>>> children of God.ā?? The fall of humanity into sin had effects on
>>>>>>> everything, including the world we inhabit. Everything in creation is
>>>>>>> subject to ā??frustrationā?? and ā??decay.ā?? Sin is the ultimate 
>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>> of natural disasters just as it is the cause of death, disease, and
>>>>>>> suffering.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We can understand why natural disasters occur. What we do not 
>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>> is why God allows them to occur. Why did God allow the tsunami to kill
>>>>>>> over 225,000 people in Asia? Why did God allow Hurricane Katrina to
>>>>>>> destroy the homes of thousands of people? For one thing, such events
>>>>>>> shake our confidence in this life and force us to think about 
>>>>>>> eternity.
>>>>>>> Churches are usually filled after disasters as people realize how
>>>>>>> tenuous their lives really are and how life can be taken away in an
>>>>>>> instant. What we do know is this: God is good! Many amazing miracles
>>>>>>> occurred during the course of natural disasters that prevented even
>>>>>>> greater loss of life. Natural disasters cause millions of people to
>>>>>>> reevaluate their priorities in life. Hundreds of millions of dollars 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> aid is sent to help the people who are suffering.
>>>>>>> Christian ministries have the opportunity to help, minister, counsel,
>>>>>>> pray, and lead people to saving faith in Christ! God can, and does,
>>>>>>> bring great good out of terrible tragedies (Romans 8:28).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They don't have any answers but that doesn't stop them pretending they
>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They don't have any evidence, either, but that also doesn't stop them 
>>>>>> pretending they do.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> My Brother-in-law is red-green color blind. There are many things in
>>>>> this realm that he cannot see. See any similarities?   Gordon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Not even one.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if Gordon's bro in law can see that a good God would not
>>> have made him that way.
>>> 
>>>> JD
>>> 
>> God didn't make my brother-in-law that way. Satan did this, 
> 
> Bullshit. Your god created Satan and made it exactly the way it is. That 
> makes your god completely responsible for every evil thing that your 
> Satan does.
> 
> 
> Good thing neither one actually exists.
> 

Gordon's dad is Satan?

The red-green color blindness is, in most cases, caused by a defective gene
on the X chromosome. Poor old Gordon doesn't understand the fact he may be
a carrier of this gene, and passed it on to his own descendants, making him
Satan.


-- 
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. 
 John Cleese on Stupidity  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:30 +1100
  Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:37 +1100
  Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:43 +1100
  Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-08 19:46 +1100
  Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-08 17:26 +0000
    Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-10 12:21 -0500
      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-10 12:30 -0500
      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-10 19:22 +0000
      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-10 20:07 +0000
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-10 16:31 -0500
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 04:56 +0000
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:37 -0500
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
      Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-10 17:24 -0700
        Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-11 15:21 +1100
          Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-11 09:34 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 07:50 -0700
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:14 -0500
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-11 10:25 -0500
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-11 17:09 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:26 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:20 +1100
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:10 +0000
              Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-11 18:50 -0700
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-10-12 00:54 -0400
                Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-12 23:40 +0000
            Re: More Christian stupidity - From Gotnoanswers Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-10-12 10:51 +1100

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