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  Third Party Email in Gmail Gmail User <gmail@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 00:32 +0100
    Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-08-05 17:07 -0700
      Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Gmail User <gmail@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 01:29 +0100
        Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-08-05 22:02 -0700
          Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-06 09:06 +0100
            Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-06 20:21 +0500
              Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-07 02:26 +0100
          Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2026-08-06 08:40 +0000
        Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-06 09:27 +0100
          Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-06 13:04 +0100
            Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-06 13:34 +0100
              Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Gmail User <gmail@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-07 14:47 +0100
                Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 15:09 +0100
                  Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-08-07 14:35 +0000
            Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> - 2026-08-06 16:40 +0100
              Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-07 02:31 +0100
                Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 07:26 +0100
                  Re: Third Party Email in Gmail "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-07 08:28 +0100
    Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-08-06 17:36 +0200
      Re: Third Party Email in Gmail Gmail User <gmail@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:00 +0100

#21675 — Third Party Email in Gmail

*Send emails from third-party email address support ends: *The "Send as" 
feature allows you to send emails from a different address you own, such 
as work aliases or non-Gmail accounts. You will no longer be able to 
send mail from third-party email accounts in Gmail on the web or in the 
Gmail mobile apps. Gmail-to-Gmail aliases and Google Workspace “Send as” 
functionality is not affected. Learn how to send emails from a different 
email address or alias <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370>.


This will come as a shock to people who use custom domains with their 
Gmail accounts.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/17101213

However, it is still possible to use Gmail to store and send third-party 
emails, but this requires Thunderbird or a similar programme, as well as 
free SMTP servers and a 'Reply-To' address using Gmail. Once you have 
downloaded your emails from Gmail, you can reply using your custom 
domain email address. I have tested this method and it works, but we 
will have to continue testing until the service closes completely.

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#21676

On 8/5/2026 4:32 PM, Gmail User wrote:
> *Send emails from third-party email address support ends: *The "Send as" 
> feature allows you to send emails from a different address you own, such 
> as work aliases or non-Gmail accounts. You will no longer be able to 
> send mail from third-party email accounts in Gmail on the web or in the 
> Gmail mobile apps. Gmail-to-Gmail aliases and Google Workspace “Send as” 
> functionality is not affected. Learn how to send emails from a different 
> email address or alias <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370>.
> 
> 
> This will come as a shock to people who use custom domains with their 
> Gmail accounts.
> 
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/17101213
> 
> However, it is still possible to use Gmail to store and send third-party 
> emails, but this requires Thunderbird or a similar programme, as well as 
> free SMTP servers and a 'Reply-To' address using Gmail. Once you have 
> downloaded your emails from Gmail, you can reply using your custom 
> domain email address. I have tested this method and it works, but we 
> will have to continue testing until the service closes completely.

Better yet, subscribe to a real ISP, one with a business model that
depends of subscriber fees and not on selling subscribers' personal data.


-- 

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com>

NO, not everyone has a smart phone.  My wife and I have
"dumb cell phones" and a land-line.  Neither of us can
handle QR codes, reply to text messages, or have any
kind of phone-based Internet connections.  We have no APS
on any phone.  We can send and receive photos only
through our desktop PCs.

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#21678

On 06/08/2026 01:07, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 8/5/2026 4:32 PM, Gmail User wrote:
>> *Send emails from third-party email address support ends: *The "Send as"
>> feature allows you to send emails from a different address you own, such
>> as work aliases or non-Gmail accounts. You will no longer be able to
>> send mail from third-party email accounts in Gmail on the web or in the
>> Gmail mobile apps. Gmail-to-Gmail aliases and Google Workspace “Send as”
>> functionality is not affected. Learn how to send emails from a different
>> email address or alias <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370>.
>>
>>
>> This will come as a shock to people who use custom domains with their
>> Gmail accounts.
>>
>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/17101213
>>
>> However, it is still possible to use Gmail to store and send third-party
>> emails, but this requires Thunderbird or a similar programme, as well as
>> free SMTP servers and a 'Reply-To' address using Gmail. Once you have
>> downloaded your emails from Gmail, you can reply using your custom
>> domain email address. I have tested this method and it works, but we
>> will have to continue testing until the service closes completely.
> Better yet, subscribe to a real ISP, one with a business model that
> depends of subscriber fees and not on selling subscribers' personal data.
>
It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own 
custom domain.

I blame Donald Trump for monetising everything and destroying global 
economies, resulting in businesses cutting services while keeping prices 
the same or increasing them.

I used to pay around £3.25 per month for broadband, but now it's £23 and 
the speed is slower. They essentially tell you to take it or leave it. 
They are not going to reduce their charges. This service does not 
include an email account.

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#21681

On 8/5/2026 5:29 PM, Gmail User wrote:
> On 06/08/2026 01:07, David E. Ross wrote:

	[snipped]

>> Better yet, subscribe to a real ISP, one with a business model that
>> depends of subscriber fees and not on selling subscribers' personal data.
>>
> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own 
> custom domain.

	[also snipped]

My E-mail and Web site are hosted by Sunset.net, which is part of Great
Basin Internet Services (GBIS).  They allow me to use my own domain.
Actually, GBIS might require users to have their own domains.

-- 

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com>

NO, not everyone has a smart phone.  My wife and I have
"dumb cell phones" and a land-line.  Neither of us can
handle QR codes, reply to text messages, or have any
kind of phone-based Internet connections.  We have no APS
on any phone.  We can send and receive photos only
through our desktop PCs.

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#21682

On 2026/8/6 6:2:27, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 8/5/2026 5:29 PM, Gmail User wrote:
>> On 06/08/2026 01:07, David E. Ross wrote:
> 
> 	[snipped]
> 
>>> Better yet, subscribe to a real ISP, one with a business model that
>>> depends of subscriber fees and not on selling subscribers' personal data.
>>>
>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own 
>> custom domain.
> 
> 	[also snipped]
> 
> My E-mail and Web site are hosted by Sunset.net, which is part of Great
> Basin Internet Services (GBIS).  They allow me to use my own domain.
> Actually, GBIS might require users to have their own domains.
> 
Yes, ISPs are changing to ICPs - connection-only. You have to move your
website to an independent hoster; I think most of such provide email
facilities (though I suppose _that_ may change in future?). I'm with
Krystal, and was previously with tsoHost.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I used to dream of the day when linux was as stable as windows. Never
did I imagine that parity would be achieved by windows declining into
the chaos that engulfs and stifles linux.
- mike <ham789@netzero.net> in alt.windows7.general, 2018-4-1

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#21692

06.08.2026 13:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> Yes, ISPs are changing to ICPs - connection-only. You have to move your
> website to an independent hoster; I think most of such provide email
> facilities (though I suppose _that_ may change in future?). I'm with
> Krystal, and was previously with tsoHost.

Or you can host it by yourself, why not?

You can get own old laptop, install Linux, Docker, and use Mailcow, which is very user friendly for non-techies.

There are only three actual problems you might encounter and all they connected to ICPs:

- Get public IP address(es).
- Get PTR record set for that address(es).
- (some ICPs/ISPs might enforce) Get 465/993 ports opened for SMTP/IMAP respectively. Some providers might block them.

I won't mention DNS-related actions for MX, TXT, SRV records, you can get list of required records and their values in Mailcow admin panel and it might be different from mine.

By "old laptop" of course I mean more-or-less decent one with 4+ cores CPU and 8+ GB RAM, like Thinkpad X220. My Mailcow instance running on 4cpu/8gb ram/100gb disk storage VM for years.

-- 
WBR, Stanislav Nikitin a.k.a. pztrn.

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#21699

On 2026/8/6 16:21:58, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote:
> 06.08.2026 13:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> Yes, ISPs are changing to ICPs - connection-only. You have to move your
>> website to an independent hoster; I think most of such provide email
>> facilities (though I suppose _that_ may change in future?). I'm with
>> Krystal, and was previously with tsoHost.
> 
> Or you can host it by yourself, why not?
> 
> You can get own old laptop, install Linux, Docker, and use Mailcow, which is very user friendly for non-techies.

A bit beyond me I fear! Plus, I'd not want to leave something on all the
time (granted, I usually do this laptop, but probably wouldn't want to
if I was a way for more than a day or two).>
> There are only three actual problems you might encounter and all they connected to ICPs:
> 
> - Get public IP address(es).
> - Get PTR record set for that address(es).
> - (some ICPs/ISPs might enforce) Get 465/993 ports opened for SMTP/IMAP respectively. Some providers might block them.

I wouldn't be at all surprised.>
> I won't mention DNS-related actions for MX, TXT, SRV records, you can get list of required records and their values in Mailcow admin panel and it might be different from mine.
> 
> By "old laptop" of course I mean more-or-less decent one with 4+ cores CPU and 8+ GB RAM, like Thinkpad X220. My Mailcow instance running on 4cpu/8gb ram/100gb disk storage VM for years.
> 
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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#21684

On 2026-08-06, David E. Ross <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> On 8/5/2026 5:29 PM, Gmail User wrote:
>> On 06/08/2026 01:07, David E. Ross wrote:
>
> 	[snipped]
>
>>> Better yet, subscribe to a real ISP, one with a business model that
>>> depends of subscriber fees and not on selling subscribers' personal data.
>>>
>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own 
>> custom domain.
>
> 	[also snipped]
>
> My E-mail and Web site are hosted by Sunset.net, which is part of Great
> Basin Internet Services (GBIS).  They allow me to use my own domain.
> Actually, GBIS might require users to have their own domains.
>

There are dozens of e-mail provders. Start here 
https://smtpedia.com/email-providers-list/

One of the advantages of your own domain name is that You own it and
switching connections is very easy,

The days of Free, as in beer is gone. Suck it up and move on. To put it
bluntly.

Reason for the STMP server needing to be "controlled" is one of spam.

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#21683

Gmail User wrote:

> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
> custom domain.

All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...

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#21689

On 2026/8/6 9:27:29, Andy Burns wrote:
> Gmail User wrote:
> 
>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
>> custom domain.
> 
> All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...
> 
Care to suggest a couple? Especially in UK? (The email/web side can
probably be anywhere, but for a lot of UK, the ICP side in effect comes
via OpenReach's hardware, though other companies pretend they're
providing it.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Abandon hope, all ye who <ENTER> here.

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#21691

J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
> >> Gmail User wrote:
>>
>>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
>>> custom domain.
>>
>> All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...
>>
> Care to suggest a couple? Especially in UK?

My policy now (as you hinted) it to use the ISP just for internet 
connectivity, and get email/web hosting completely separately.

<https://mythic-beasts.com>
<https://yorkukhosting.com>

> (The email/web side can probably be anywhere, but for a lot of UK,
> the ICP side in effect comes via OpenReach's hardware, though other
> companies pretend they're providing it.)

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#21704

On 06/08/2026 13:34, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> 
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>> >> Gmail User wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
>>>> custom domain.
>>>
>>> All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...
>>>
>> Care to suggest a couple? Especially in UK?
> 
> My policy now (as you hinted) it to use the ISP just for internet 
> connectivity, and get email/web hosting completely separately.
> 
> <https://mythic-beasts.com>
> <https://yorkukhosting.com>
> 
>> (The email/web side can probably be anywhere, but for a lot of UK,
>> the ICP side in effect comes via OpenReach's hardware, though other
>> companies pretend they're providing it.)
> 
None of these are ISPs. We were talking about ISPs, not hosting 
companies. The cost needs to be taken into account as well.

I am aware that hosting companies will give you a 1 GB mailbox — big deal!

Google used to give 15 GB for free, but now it's only 5 GB. This might 
not even exist next year. DJP has taught these IT hegemony to charge for 
everything, as life cannot exist without technology!

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#21705

Gmail User wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> <https://mythic-beasts.com>
>> <https://yorkukhosting.com>
>>
> None of these are ISPs. We were talking about ISPs, not hosting
> companies. The cost needs to be taken into account as well.
Correct, ISPs are cutting their offering to the bone, they no longer 
offer "services" such as email, they are becoming purely "access" 
providers, if you want a decent email provider, it's necessary to pay ...

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#21706

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>Gmail User wrote:
>>Andy Burns wrote:

>>><https://mythic-beasts.com>
>>><https://yorkukhosting.com>

>>None of these are ISPs. We were talking about ISPs, not hosting
>>companies. The cost needs to be taken into account as well.

>Correct, ISPs are cutting their offering to the bone, they no longer 
>offer "services" such as email, they are becoming purely "access" 
>providers, if you want a decent email provider, it's necessary to pay ...

Our dear Constantly Morphing Troll, this time from paganini, isn't going
to stop complaining. I have an email address from my ISP that i use for
service-related messages and nothing else. I figured out a llong time
ago that if I don't care to do do business with them any longer, I don't
want them to control my mailbox.

I have a Web host but register my various domains through unaffiliated
registrars. This makes everything competitive and I'm not tied to any
one entity.

Why the hell would I store archived messages in my Gmail inbox? There is
an on line host I archiive messages at. Not Google. Or I can archive
messages on a computer in my local network. Nothing is free but I'd
prefer not to rely upon Google for critical functions.

One can even pay for a Linux shell account like Panix and access Mail
and News that way.

Nothing in this entire thread discussed Thunderbird.

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#21694

In article <1151t82$3qanh$1@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk says...
> 
> On 2026/8/6 9:27:29, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Gmail User wrote:
> > 
> >> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
> >> custom domain.
> > 
> > All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...
> > 
> Care to suggest a couple? Especially in UK? (The email/web side can
> probably be anywhere, but for a lot of UK, the ICP side in effect comes
> via OpenReach's hardware, though other companies pretend they're
> providing it.)

https://www.eukhost.com

-- 
Jim the Geordie

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#21700

On 2026/8/6 16:40:50, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> In article <1151t82$3qanh$1@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk says...
>>
>> On 2026/8/6 9:27:29, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Gmail User wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
>>>> custom domain.
>>>
>>> All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...
>>>
>> Care to suggest a couple? Especially in UK? (The email/web side can
>> probably be anywhere, but for a lot of UK, the ICP side in effect comes
>> via OpenReach's hardware, though other companies pretend they're
>> providing it.)
> 
> https://www.eukhost.com
> 
Looks like they do indeed provide hosting (which I guessed from the
name); I see no mention of them providing connection though.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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#21702

"J. P. Gilliver" wrote:

> Looks like they do indeed provide hosting (which I guessed from the
> name); I see no mention of them providing connection though.

Don't try to get it all from one supplier ...

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#21703

On 2026/8/7 7:26:3, Andy Burns wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" wrote:
> 
>> Looks like they do indeed provide hosting (which I guessed from the
>> name); I see no mention of them providing connection though.
> 
> Don't try to get it all from one supplier ...
> 
> 
You've snipped too much of the thread:
===
On 2026/8/6 16:40:50, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> In article <1151t82$3qanh$1@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk says...
>>
>> On 2026/8/6 9:27:29, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Gmail User wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's hard to find any ISPs offering an email account with your own
>>>> custom domain.
>>>
>>> All I can say to that is you obviously haven't looked ...
>>>
>> Care to suggest a couple? Especially in UK? (The email/web side can
>> probably be anywhere, but for a lot of UK, the ICP side in effect comes
>> via OpenReach's hardware, though other companies pretend they're
>> providing it.)
>
> https://www.eukhost.com
>
Looks like they do indeed provide hosting (which I guessed from the
name); I see no mention of them providing connection though.
===

Basically, Gmail user said it's hard to find an ISP offering email with
a domain; you said he hadn't looked; I said suggest some; Jim suggested
eukhost; I said they do hosting but not connection (i. e. aren't an ISP).

Your point may be valid (about not trying to get both from the same
supplier), but ...
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

At my funeral take the bouquet off my casket and throw it in the crowd
to see who's next

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#21693

Gmail User wrote:
> *Send emails from third-party email address support ends: *The "Send as" 
> feature allows you to send emails from a different address you own, such 
> as work aliases or non-Gmail accounts. You will no longer be able to 
> send mail from third-party email accounts in Gmail on the web or in the 
> Gmail mobile apps.

Good news for mental healthy people.

> This will come as a shock to people who use custom domains with their 
> Gmail accounts.

It's their own fault. A huge mistake if you hand over the conversation
from or to your own domain to a fuckering mega-company like Google.
When you use Google as a MITM (man in the middle) for managing your
mail related stuff, you're an lazy idiot.

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#21696

On 06/08/2026 16:36, Frank Miller wrote:
> It's their own fault. A huge mistake if you hand over the conversation
> from or to your own domain to a fuckering mega-company like Google.
> When you use Google as a MITM (man in the middle) for managing your
> mail related stuff, you're an lazy idiot.

All it takes is meeting one idiot to recognise another, and I have 
experienced this first-hand on these newsgroups!

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