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  Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 13:52 -0500
    Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:02 -0800
      Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:19 -0800
      Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 16:48 -0500
        Re: Freeze extension? BillH <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 14:01 -0800
          Re: Freeze extension? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-18 18:13 -0500
            Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:16 -0800
              Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:50 -0500
            Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:54 -0500
              Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:10 -0500
                Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 19:16 -0800
                  Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 02:28 -0500
                    Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 08:47 -0800
                      Re: Freeze extension? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-19 12:49 -0500
                        Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 13:13 -0500
                          Re: Freeze extension? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-19 14:59 -0500
                            Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 16:15 -0500
                              Re: Freeze extension? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-19 16:29 -0500
                                Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 16:51 -0500
                                  Re: Freeze extension? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-19 17:20 -0500
                                    Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 17:56 -0500
                                      Re: Freeze extension? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-19 18:11 -0500
                                        Re: Freeze extension? David <David@example.net> - 2025-01-20 08:05 +0000
                              Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 14:11 -0800
                          Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 13:09 -0800
                            Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 16:23 -0500
                              Re: Freeze extension? "BillH" <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 22:31 +0000
                          RE: Freeze extension? Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 09:43 +0000
                            Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-20 08:28 -0800
                        Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 10:57 -0800
                      Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 13:15 -0500
                        Re: Freeze extension? Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 10:58 -0800
        Re: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-22 13:30 -0500
    RE: Freeze extension? Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 13:36 +0000
      RE: Freeze extension? Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-19 14:37 -0500

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#15711

On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 

> On 1/19/25 04:51 PM, Nil wrote:
>> 
>> What happens if you narrow the right (Contact) pane? I predict
>> that the General button will eventually disappear off the pane to
>> the left and can't be reached without re-sizing the pane - the
>> scroll bar can't fully reveal it. Previously, the buttons were
>> aligned to the left side of the pane, so if the pane was too
>> narrow to show all the buttons, the rightmost ones, which are the
>> least important ones, went out of sight, but you could still use
>> the scroll bar to get at them. 

> I was suggesting make the center panel narrow to give the right
> panel more room.  Of course this chops into your list.   What font
> size and density do you have it set for and display resolution? 

I know I can do that as a workaround, but the right pane is still not 
behaving properly. Its scroll bar should scroll the entire pane, 
including the buttons. The left button should never roll off out of 
reach, no matter how narrow the pane gets. That's the behaviour it has 
always had up until now and how it is if I downgrade to version 94.x.

And what about your Preferences window? If you shorten it, does not the 
right options pane get cut off with no scroll bar to get to the lower 
area? Actually, it looks like SOME of the categories get a scroll bar 
but it doesn't actually scroll all the way to the bottom! Toolbar, 
Edition, Advanced, and others don't even get a scroll bar.

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#15712

On 1/19/25 05:56 PM, Nil wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> 
>> On 1/19/25 04:51 PM, Nil wrote:
>>>
>>> What happens if you narrow the right (Contact) pane? I predict
>>> that the General button will eventually disappear off the pane to
>>> the left and can't be reached without re-sizing the pane - the
>>> scroll bar can't fully reveal it. Previously, the buttons were
>>> aligned to the left side of the pane, so if the pane was too
>>> narrow to show all the buttons, the rightmost ones, which are the
>>> least important ones, went out of sight, but you could still use
>>> the scroll bar to get at them.
> 
>> I was suggesting make the center panel narrow to give the right
>> panel more room.  Of course this chops into your list.   What font
>> size and density do you have it set for and display resolution?
> 
> I know I can do that as a workaround, but the right pane is still not
> behaving properly. Its scroll bar should scroll the entire pane,
> including the buttons. The left button should never roll off out of
> reach, no matter how narrow the pane gets. That's the behaviour it has
> always had up until now and how it is if I downgrade to version 94.x.
> 
> And what about your Preferences window? If you shorten it, does not the
> right options pane get cut off with no scroll bar to get to the lower
> area? Actually, it looks like SOME of the categories get a scroll bar
> but it doesn't actually scroll all the way to the bottom! Toolbar,
> Edition, Advanced, and others don't even get a scroll bar.
Never noticed the lack of scrollbar on left panel, but yes, if I shrink the window I have no 
scrollbar on the left.   The right-Yes.

I've always wished that all the windows in general would resize to fit the data in the window.  If I 
click on edit category to change the color, 1/2 of the fields are off the edges, I can resize but it 
should be large enough to accommodate.  I do have fonts scaled larger but programs can measure and 
test that kind of stuff.

-- 
Linux Mint 22, Cinnamon 6.2.9,  Kernel 6.8.0-51-generic
Thunderbird 128.5.2esr, Mozilla Firefox 134.0.1
Alan K.

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#15713

On 19/01/2025 23:11, Alan K. wrote:
> Thunderbird 128.5.2esr,

I'm now using Thunderbird 128.6.0esr(64-bit)

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#15708

On Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 01:15 PM, Nil wrote:

> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> 
>> On 1/19/25 01:13 PM, Nil wrote:
>>>
>>> 98.5 is better but still needs work. The Contact pane top buttons
>>> aren't displayed properly, and the Configuration window is
>>> missing some scroll bars and some of them don't work properly.
> 
>> Can you grab a screenshot and post it for viewing.
>> I have no such issues.
> 
> https://i.postimg.cc/qMB27Gvv/cardbook4.png
> 
> The General button in the Contact pane is off to the left - you can't
> scroll over to fully reveal it.
> 
> 
> https://i.postimg.cc/050px4x4/cardbook5.png
> 
> The categories on the left disappear off the bottom of the screen but
> there's no scroll bar to reveal the last few of them. The right pane in
> this category needs a scroll bar to get down further.
> 

I see why I don't have a problem with the General button,  I'm not using 
the vertical view.  I'm using the classic view.   Everything looks fine.

As for the categories, they also display fine for me.

https://i.imgur.com/sQFRH5Q.png

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#15703

On Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 10:13 AM, Nil wrote:

> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> 
>> And at the bottom (now bottom) is 98.5.   Not sure what it fixes
>> except one person could not get it working and removed everything
>> and started over.  Maybe he put in some more code for that. I have
>> it running in TB not BB, and I see no changes. 
> 
> 98.5 is better but still needs work. The Contact pane top buttons
> aren't displayed properly, and the Configuration window is missing some
> scroll bars and some of them don't work properly.

I am having no problems with the top buttons on the Contact pane.  What 
Configuration window are you talking about.  I don't see any problems in 
Preferences anywhere.

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#15705

On 19 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 

> On Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 10:13 AM, Nil wrote:
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>> 
>>> And at the bottom (now bottom) is 98.5.   Not sure what it fixes
>>> except one person could not get it working and removed
>>> everything and started over.  Maybe he put in some more code for
>>> that. I have it running in TB not BB, and I see no changes. 
>> 
>> 98.5 is better but still needs work. The Contact pane top buttons
>> aren't displayed properly, and the Configuration window is
>> missing some scroll bars and some of them don't work properly.
> 
> I am having no problems with the top buttons on the Contact pane. 
> What Configuration window are you talking about.  I don't see any
> problems in Preferences anywhere.

https://i.postimg.cc/qMB27Gvv/cardbook4.png

The General button in the Contact pane is off to the left - you can't 
scroll over to fully reveal it.


https://i.postimg.cc/050px4x4/cardbook5.png

The categories on the left disappear off the bottom of the screen but 
there's no scroll bar to reveal the last few of them. The right pane in 
this category needs a scroll bar to get down further.


Some of this might be related to the small screen on the laptop, as 
compared to a larger, higher-resolution desktop monitor. But it all 
displayed well with pre 95.x Cardbook versions. 

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#15710

On 1/19/2025 at 1:23:28 PM Nil wrote:

> On 19 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 
> 
> > On Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 10:13 AM, Nil wrote:
> > 
> >> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
> >> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> >> 
> >>> And at the bottom (now bottom) is 98.5.   Not sure what it fixes
> >>> except one person could not get it working and removed
> >>> everything and started over.  Maybe he put in some more code for
> >>> that. I have it running in TB not BB, and I see no changes. 
> >> 
> >> 98.5 is better but still needs work. The Contact pane top buttons
> >> aren't displayed properly, and the Configuration window is
> >> missing some scroll bars and some of them don't work properly.
> > 
> > I am having no problems with the top buttons on the Contact pane. 
> > What Configuration window are you talking about.  I don't see any
> > problems in Preferences anywhere.
> 
> https://i.postimg.cc/qMB27Gvv/cardbook4.png
> 
> The General button in the Contact pane is off to the left - you can't 
> scroll over to fully reveal it.
> 
> 
> https://i.postimg.cc/050px4x4/cardbook5.png
> 
> The categories on the left disappear off the bottom of the screen but 
> there's no scroll bar to reveal the last few of them. The right pane in 
> this category needs a scroll bar to get down further.
> 
> 
> Some of this might be related to the small screen on the laptop, as 
> compared to a larger, higher-resolution desktop monitor. But it all 
> displayed well with pre 95.x Cardbook versions. 

Just another thought.

Are you on Windows?  What scaling are you using on your display?

https://i.imgur.com/v5xYbYk.jpeg

Cardbook may not be handling scaling above 100% correctly. 

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#15714

On 19/01/2025 at 18:13, Nil wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> 
>> And at the bottom (now bottom) is 98.5.   Not sure what it fixes
>> except one person could not get it working and removed everything
>> and started over.  Maybe he put in some more code for that. I have
>> it running in TB not BB, and I see no changes.
> 
> 98.5 is better but still needs work. The Contact pane top buttons
> aren't displayed properly, and the Configuration window is missing some
> scroll bars and some of them don't work properly.

With anything above 94.4 I do not see any addresses or any way of adding 
a remote address list.  So as I said, I stick with 94.4 for now.

-- 
Wilf

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#15715

On Monday, January 20, 2025, at 01:43 AM, Wilf wrote:

> On 19/01/2025 at 18:13, Nil wrote:
>> On 19 Jan 2025, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote in
>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>> 
>>> And at the bottom (now bottom) is 98.5.   Not sure what it fixes
>>> except one person could not get it working and removed everything
>>> and started over.  Maybe he put in some more code for that. I have
>>> it running in TB not BB, and I see no changes.
>> 
>> 98.5 is better but still needs work. The Contact pane top buttons
>> aren't displayed properly, and the Configuration window is missing some
>> scroll bars and some of them don't work properly.
> 
> With anything above 94.4 I do not see any addresses or any way of adding
> a remote address list.  So as I said, I stick with 94.4 for now.
> 

Right click in the left most pane and select "New address book".  On the 
next window select "Remote".  Then select the type of remote address 
book and fill in the Username and Password (if necessary).

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#15699

On Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 09:49 AM, "Alan K." wrote:

> On 1/19/25 11:47 AM, Bill H wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 18, 2025, at 11:28 PM, Nil wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
>>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 18, 2025, at 06:10 PM, Nil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just tried 98.4. More things are fixed, but still not all. The
>>>>> one I noticed is that in the contact details pane, the buttons
>>>>> along the top are not all visible. They seem to be centered in
>>>>> the window, so if the windows is too narrow to show them all, you
>>>>> can't use the scrollbar to reveal them. But the fonts seem to be
>>>>> OK now, the pictures are back, and the layout is better but still
>>>>> not quite right. The Notes are still missing from the General
>>>>> tab. 
>>>>
>>>> I just noticed that I am missing Notes on the General tab also.  I
>>>> do not use them very often, so I hadn't noticed before.
>>>>
>>>> Where are you getting version 98.4?  I am not seeing it.  97.7
>>>> seems to the latest version available on the Thunderbird Add-on
>>>> site.  I see a link to 98.3 in one of the issues, but not 98.4.
>>>
>>> I got 98.4 from the comments in this bug report. I expect there will be
>>> more revisions - this seems to be a work in progress.
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.com/CardBook/CardBook/-/issues/1771
>> 
>> Thanks for the link.  I just noticed that next to the General tab there is a Notes tab and my notes 
>> are all there.  Were the notes on the General tab at one time?  Anyway, I can get to all my notes now.
> And at the bottom (now bottom) is 98.5.   Not sure what it fixes except one person could not get it
> working and removed everything and started over.  Maybe he put in some more code for that.
> I have it running in TB not BB, and I see no changes.
> 
Thanks... got it.

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#15698

On 19 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 

> On Saturday, January 18, 2025, at 11:28 PM, Nil wrote:
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 18, 2025, at 06:10 PM, Nil wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just tried 98.4. More things are fixed, but still not all. The
>>>> one I noticed is that in the contact details pane, the buttons
>>>> along the top are not all visible. They seem to be centered in
>>>> the window, so if the windows is too narrow to show them all,
>>>> you can't use the scrollbar to reveal them. But the fonts seem
>>>> to be OK now, the pictures are back, and the layout is better
>>>> but still not quite right. The Notes are still missing from the
>>>> General tab. 
>>> 
>>> I just noticed that I am missing Notes on the General tab also. 
>>> I do not use them very often, so I hadn't noticed before.
>>> 
>>> Where are you getting version 98.4?  I am not seeing it.  97.7
>>> seems to the latest version available on the Thunderbird Add-on
>>> site.  I see a link to 98.3 in one of the issues, but not 98.4.
>> 
>> I got 98.4 from the comments in this bug report. I expect there
>> will be more revisions - this seems to be a work in progress.
>> 
>> https://gitlab.com/CardBook/CardBook/-/issues/1771
> 
> Thanks for the link.  I just noticed that next to the General tab
> there is a Notes tab and my notes are all there.  Were the notes
> on the General tab at one time?  Anyway, I can get to all my notes
> now. 

Notes used to be displayed at the bottom of the General tab as well as 
the Notes tab. It wouldn't be a deal-breaker if the didn't come back, 
but I found them convenient.

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#15700

On Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 10:15 AM, Nil wrote:

> On 19 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> 
>> On Saturday, January 18, 2025, at 11:28 PM, Nil wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
>>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, January 18, 2025, at 06:10 PM, Nil wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just tried 98.4. More things are fixed, but still not all. The
>>>>> one I noticed is that in the contact details pane, the buttons
>>>>> along the top are not all visible. They seem to be centered in
>>>>> the window, so if the windows is too narrow to show them all,
>>>>> you can't use the scrollbar to reveal them. But the fonts seem
>>>>> to be OK now, the pictures are back, and the layout is better
>>>>> but still not quite right. The Notes are still missing from the
>>>>> General tab. 
>>>> 
>>>> I just noticed that I am missing Notes on the General tab also. 
>>>> I do not use them very often, so I hadn't noticed before.
>>>> 
>>>> Where are you getting version 98.4?  I am not seeing it.  97.7
>>>> seems to the latest version available on the Thunderbird Add-on
>>>> site.  I see a link to 98.3 in one of the issues, but not 98.4.
>>> 
>>> I got 98.4 from the comments in this bug report. I expect there
>>> will be more revisions - this seems to be a work in progress.
>>> 
>>> https://gitlab.com/CardBook/CardBook/-/issues/1771
>> 
>> Thanks for the link.  I just noticed that next to the General tab
>> there is a Notes tab and my notes are all there.  Were the notes
>> on the General tab at one time?  Anyway, I can get to all my notes
>> now. 
> 
> Notes used to be displayed at the bottom of the General tab as well as
> the Notes tab. It wouldn't be a deal-breaker if the didn't come back,
> but I found them convenient.

I didn't remember that.  I have few notes and I guess I always used the 
Notes tab.

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#15726

On 18 Jan 2025, Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 

> On 18 Jan 2025, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 
> 
>> How is Cardbook buggy for you?  It seems to be fine here with the
>> latest updates of both Cardbook and TB.
> 
> Some of my computers are still using Thunderbird 115.18.0 and
> Cardbook 94.5, which is the latest version offered for that Tbird.
> This combination works fine. A couple other computers are using
> Tbird 128.6.0esr, and a newer version of Cardbook, 97.7, is
> offered for this newer version of Tbird. If I stick to old version
> 94.5, it looks and acts like I expect. If I update Cardbook to
> 97.7, the display is garbled - font is wrong, elements are
> displaced, pictures missing, scrollbars are missing or
> non-working. I can downgrade to 94.5 and all is again well.
> 
> Reading about the issues on Github, this appears to be a common
> and known problem that was introduced during CB 95.x and has
> something to do with the developer converting the interface to
> html. Seems it still needs work. I'm surprised that it looks OK to
> you - this is the kind of thing that I would have guessed affected
> everybody or nobody, but apparently not.

I finally resorted to downgrading Thunderbird from 128 to 115. With 
128, I found that while Cardbook 98.x is buggy, 94.5 is just as buggy 
in different ways - the New Contact compose/edit windows was empty, 
that is, I couldn't add or edit a contact! Inexplicably, this only 
happened on one of my computers Cardbook is too important to me and I'm 
tired of trying to troubleshoot it, so I went back to a known working 
combination, Thunderbird 115.18.0 + Cardbook 94.4.

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#15694

On 18/01/2025 at 18:52, Nil wrote:
> Is there a way to prevent one particular extension from offering to
> update? One of mine, Cardbook, is buggy in its latest version with the
> latest versions of Thunderbird. I'd like to keep Cardbook at an old
> version until the developer fixes it. I can, of course, manually
> decline the update, but that's one more thing to remember.

I, too, have this problem with Cardbook.  Versions after 94.4, right up 
to the latest, 97.7, just don't work for me - they don't display the 
address book contents at all and I can't access the addresses.  So I've 
set Automatic Updates to OFF in Addon Manager.   I occasionally download 
a new version of Cardbook, but for months these have failed to work for 
me.  Yet others must be using the newer versions of Cardbook 
successfully, which I don't understand.   I'm on TB 126..6.0ESR.

-- 
Wilf

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#15701

On 19 Jan 2025, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 

> On 18/01/2025 at 18:52, Nil wrote:
>> Is there a way to prevent one particular extension from offering
>> to update? One of mine, Cardbook, is buggy in its latest version
>> with the latest versions of Thunderbird. I'd like to keep
>> Cardbook at an old version until the developer fixes it. I can,
>> of course, manually decline the update, but that's one more thing
>> to remember. 
> 
> I, too, have this problem with Cardbook.  Versions after 94.4,
> right up to the latest, 97.7, just don't work for me - they don't
> display the address book contents at all and I can't access the
> addresses.  So I've set Automatic Updates to OFF in Addon Manager.
>   I occasionally download a new version of Cardbook, but for
> months these have failed to work for me.  Yet others must be using
> the newer versions of Cardbook successfully, which I don't
> understand.   I'm on TB 126..6.0ESR. 

There are some 98.x test versions available on Gitlab, but they still 
need some work. Fortunately, it's easy to downgrade by just re-
installing the old version. I recommend we stay at ver. 94.4 until the 
issues get fixed.

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