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  Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-17 20:21 -0500
    Re: Newsfeeds "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-01-17 17:29 -0800
      Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-17 20:33 -0500
        Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-17 21:11 -0500
          Re: Newsfeeds "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-17 23:24 -0500
            Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:30 -0400
              Re: Newsfeeds "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-05-10 10:25 -0400
        Re: Newsfeeds Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 21:21 -0500
          Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-17 22:48 -0500
        Re: Newsfeeds D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-18 02:21 +0000
          Re: Newsfeeds Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 21:49 -0500
    Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-18 10:07 +0000
      Re: Newsfeeds Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-01-18 10:42 +0000
        Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-18 11:23 +0000
          Re: Newsfeeds Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-01-18 17:35 +0000
            Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-18 17:53 +0000
            Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-22 10:49 +0000
      Re: Newsfeeds Christian Riechers <chriechers@netscape.net.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:48 +0100
        Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-18 11:08 +0000
        Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:36 -0400
    Re: Newsfeeds Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-01-18 13:31 +0000
    Re: Newsfeeds "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-01-18 09:19 -0800
      Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-18 17:22 +0000
        Re: Newsfeeds "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-01-22 12:19 -0800
    Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:50 -0400
      Re: Newsfeeds dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-05-10 07:07 +0200
      Re: Newsfeeds Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2025-05-10 11:22 +0200
      Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-11 19:06 +0100
        Re: Newsfeeds Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-11 19:21 +0100
        Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-14 21:47 -0400
        Re: Newsfeeds B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-14 21:48 -0400
      Re: Newsfeeds alta88 <alta88@fixall.com> - 2025-05-12 15:14 -0600

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#15673

On 18/01/2025 at 01:21, B00ze wrote:
> Good day.
> 
> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest and 
> greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute worst is 
> with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I see if I 
> open an article in its own tab is the summary. What the hell?! Please 
> tell me I am missing something! How do I read full RSS articles now 
> inside TB without invoking a browser?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

That is precisely why I stuck with 52.2 for RSS and Usenet.
Betterbird (128) for mail as I seem to need OAuth2


-- 
Chris Elvidge, England
COFFEE IS NOT FOR KIDS

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#15675

On 1/17/2025 5:21 PM, B00ze wrote:
> Good day.
> 
> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest and 
> greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute worst is 
> with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I see if I 
> open an article in its own tab is the summary. What the hell?! Please 
> tell me I am missing something! How do I read full RSS articles now 
> inside TB without invoking a browser?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

I create an RSS feed whenever I make more than a very minor update to
one of my Web pages (more than 300).  When I do that, I only indicate in
the feed a brief description of the change.  I also subscribe to varius
RSS feeds, including announcing a new blog post by my daughter.  When I
look at a feed, it too is only a summary.

However, each feed's subject is a link to a Web page.  If I select the
subject, the Web page opens in my browser.  This is correct because
Thunderbird is not a Web browser.

-- 
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Israel has been accused of genocide.  On the other hand,
Iran and its clients -- Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis --
have pledged to drive the Jews out of Israel to drown in
the Mediterranean Sea.  Is that not genocide?

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#15676

David E. Ross wrote:

> When I look at a feed, it too is only a summary.

Have you tried changing the view, as suggested by Christian Riechers?

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#15729

On 1/18/2025 9:22 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> When I look at a feed, it too is only a summary.
> 
> Have you tried changing the view, as suggested by Christian Riechers?
> 

No, I never knew about those options until now.  However, I prefer
viewing the detailed messages as Web pages in my browser.  That allows
me more options to change the display.

For example, I read amateur fiction online as Web pages.  I get an RSS
feed each time a story has a new chapter.  Some authors like to show off
their HTML skills, with white text on a dark background.  I have toolbar
buttons on my browser to change that to black text on a pale green
backgroun, which is much easier on my eyes.  Some stories have links to
related information.  I can select a link to open in a new tab without
losing my place in the story and without having to jump between
Thunderbird and my browser.

As I indicated, Thunderbird is NOT a Web browser.

-- 
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

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#16564

On 2025-01-17 20:21, B00ze wrote:
> Good day.
> 
> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest and 
> greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute worst is 
> with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I see if I 
> open an article in its own tab is the summary. What the hell?! Please 
> tell me I am missing something! How do I read full RSS articles now 
> inside TB without invoking a browser?
> 
> Thanks.

So I finally opened a Bugzilla, which was marked as a duplicate, and the 
dev decided to close the original bug as WONTFIX. However it's not 
exactly the same as my bug, it's specific to "rss.show.content-base."

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1965372
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1847491

I'm staying on v102 for now but I'll try Christian Riechers's trick with 
the view menu if I ever update TB again.

Best Regards

-- 
! _\|/_  Sylvain / B00ze64@hotmail.com
! (o o)   Member:David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society
oO-( )-Oo  A centipede is an ant made to government specs.

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#16565

On 5/10/25 04:50, B00ze wrote:
> On 2025-01-17 20:21, B00ze wrote:
>> Good day.
>>
>> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest and 
>> greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute worst is 
>> with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I see if I 
>> open an article in its own tab is the summary. What the hell?! Please 
>> tell me I am missing something! How do I read full RSS articles now 
>> inside TB without invoking a browser?
>>
>> Thanks.
> 
> So I finally opened a Bugzilla, which was marked as a duplicate, and the 
> dev decided to close the original bug as WONTFIX. However it's not 
> exactly the same as my bug, it's specific to "rss.show.content-base."
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1965372
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1847491
> 
> I'm staying on v102 for now but I'll try Christian Riechers's trick with 
> the view menu if I ever update TB again.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
Try my Toggle Summary add-on:
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/toggle-summary

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#16567

On 10 May 2025 04:50, B00ze wrote:
> So I finally opened a Bugzilla, which was marked as a duplicate, and the dev 
> decided to close the original bug as WONTFIX. However it's not exactly the same as 
> my bug, it's specific to "rss.show.content-base."
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1965372
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1847491
> 
> I'm staying on v102 for now but I'll try Christian Riechers's trick with the view 
> menu if I ever update TB again.

Please try Betterbird. We restored RSS functionality to its pre-115 state.

-- 
Viele Grüße, Jörg
Sent with Betterbird. Simply better.
www.betterbird.eu - www.betterbird.eu/#featuretable
Es ist immer wieder erstaunlich: Kaum macht man's richtig, schon funktioniert's!

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#16605

B00ze wrote:

>> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest and 
>> greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute worst is 
>> with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I see if I 
>> open an article in its own tab is the summary.
Have you tried setting rss.show.summary=0 ?

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#16606

Andy Burns wrote:

> Have you tried setting rss.show.summary=0 ?

You probably also want
View > Feed Message Body As > Webpage

for me, the clues to get a full RSS view were all in this thread.

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#16663

On 2025-05-11 14:06, Andy Burns wrote:
> B00ze wrote:
> 
>>> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest 
>>> and greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute 
>>> worst is with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I 
>>> see if I open an article in its own tab is the summary.

> Have you tried setting rss.show.summary=0 ?

No, and now I am back on v102, I'll try it next time I update, which 
might be in years lol. The view menu trick works in v102 as well, and 
there is always Betterbird which confirmed having fixed this earlier in 
this thread. Lots of options, thanks to you all.

Regards,

-- 
! _\|/_  Sylvain / B00ze64@hotmail.com
! (o o)   Member:David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society
oO-( )-Oo  Is there a banker in the house? -=}BLAM{=- Any more?

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#16664

On 2025-05-11 14:06, Andy Burns wrote:
> B00ze wrote:
> 
>>> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest 
>>> and greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute 
>>> worst is with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I 
>>> see if I open an article in its own tab is the summary.

> Have you tried setting rss.show.summary=0 ?

No, and now I am back on v102, I'll try it next time I update, which 
might be in years lol. The view menu trick works in v102 as well, and 
there is always Betterbird which confirmed having fixed this earlier in 
this thread. Lots of options, thanks to you all.

Regards,

-- 
! _\|/_  Sylvain / B00ze64@hotmail.com
! (o o)   Member:David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society
oO-( )-Oo  Is there a banker in the house? -=}BLAM{=- Any more?

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#16624

On 2025-05-09 20:50, B00ze wrote:
> On 2025-01-17 20:21, B00ze wrote:
>> Good day.
>>
>> Today TB decided to update all by itself, so now I'm on the latest and 
>> greatest. There are lots of terrible things, but the absolute worst is 
>> with RSS feeds - TB no longer downloads the articles! All I see if I 
>> open an article in its own tab is the summary. What the hell?! Please 
>> tell me I am missing something! How do I read full RSS articles now 
>> inside TB without invoking a browser?
>>
>> Thanks.
> 
> So I finally opened a Bugzilla, which was marked as a duplicate, and the 
> dev decided to close the original bug as WONTFIX. However it's not 
> exactly the same as my bug, it's specific to "rss.show.content-base."
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1965372
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1847491

This is very unfortunate, but it's because he doesn't know how to do it, 
meaning implement toggling summary and web page in messagepane using 
double click or enter on the threapane item, which supernova regressed.

As Jörg mentioned, this feature has been restored in Betterbird, and 
very many regressions have been fixed as well.

All the various feed viewing options are documented here:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs
although some may no longer apply to Tb.

There's no need to edit options in config editor; there is UI for 
everything. (The hidden option to open a url in a browser upon selecting 
a feed message in threadpane has been restored in Bb).

Note that View->Feed Message Body As is a global override. The Default 
Format, for the feeds in the folder, is the setting in the Subscribe 
dialog for the folder.

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