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Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird

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  Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-04-12 10:45 -0400
    Re: Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-04-12 11:59 -0700
      Re: Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-04-12 17:14 -0400
        Re: Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-04-12 14:59 -0700
    Re: Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2021-04-13 07:46 +0200

#86 — Sequoia: Super Powering End-to-End Email Encryption in Mozilla Thunderbird

So Thunderbird 78 is released with OpenPGP built-in, and the Enigmail 
extension no longer required.

Then there was the recent Mailfence announcement.

<https://blog.thunderbird.net/2021/03/mailfence-encrypted-email-suite-in-thunderbird/> 
in case you missed it.

Now there is an alternate OpenPGP backend available.

> We are thrilled to release the first version of the Octopus, an 
> alternate OpenPGP backend for Thunderbird built on top of Sequoia 
> <https://sequoia-pgp.org>.
>
> The Octopus is a drop-in replacement for RNP, the OpenPGP library 
> shipped with Thunderbird 78.

REF: 
<https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/04/08/202103-a-new-backend-for-thunderbird/>

I just think this complicates the feature.

Not a user, so putting the information out there so others can provide 
support.

-- 
OS: Fedora 33 Workstation - Gnome Desktop
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/

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#87

WaltS48 wrote:
> REF: 
> <https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/04/08/202103-a-new-backend-for-thunderbird/> 
> 
> 
> I just think this complicates the feature.

 From link:
> The Octopus restores some functionality that was present in Enigmail,
> but removed or has not yet been reimplemented in Thunderbird’s
> OpenPGP integration. In particular, the Octopus uses GnuPG’s
> keystore, interacts with gpg-agent, integrates GnuPG’s web of trust
> information, and updates certificates in the background.



-- 
Mike Easter

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#88

On 4/12/21 2:59 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
> WaltS48 wrote:
>> REF: 
>> <https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/04/08/202103-a-new-backend-for-thunderbird/> 
>>
>>
>> I just think this complicates the feature.
>
> From link:
>> The Octopus restores some functionality that was present in Enigmail,
>> but removed or has not yet been reimplemented in Thunderbird’s
>> OpenPGP integration. In particular, the Octopus uses GnuPG’s
>> keystore, interacts with gpg-agent, integrates GnuPG’s web of trust
>> information, and updates certificates in the background.
>
>
>
Thanks for pointing that out.

Like the Mailfence article, I didn't read it since PGP is of no interest 
to me.

Tried testing OpenPGP it in a release candidate, and had no idea what I 
was doing even following the instructions provided.

-- 
OS: Fedora 33 Workstation - Gnome Desktop
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/

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#89

WaltS48 wrote:
> PGP is of no interest to me.
> 
> Tried testing OpenPGP it in a release candidate, and had no idea what I 
> was doing even following the instructions provided.

I use gpg tools to authenticate linux distro .iso/s or their checksum 
sigs I dl w/ Kleopatra & gpg4win.

For some reason it is more convenient for me to use the graphical win 
tools than the linux commands for that task.

In reality, I don't really follow a strict web of trust for the public 
key acquisition.  Some linux distro/s don't even make such an 
authenticating .sig available.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#90

As regards Thunderbird, I am only giving support to my wife, as it is
her preferred mail-client. GnuPG/OpenPGP for me is a topic apart from
the choice of a mail-client, I could never perceive it differently than
an encryption/authenticating tool independent from the software that it
is meant to cooperate with, nowadays.

Discussions about “front-ends”, “plug-ins” or helper applications in the
widest sense of the word, confuse me. I cannot contribute to any
evaluation of their necessity or qualities.

What I can tell you is that the documentation for GnuPG is among the
best written that I know of. Troubles which are reported with the way
that functions are accessible or conceived, most of the time boil down
to “I have never read a concise explanation”. 

This kind of problem – in my opinion – is unsolvable for a community or
any kind of support team.

I just hope to be on-topic with this post.

Cheerio
-- 
Le progrès, ce n'est pas l'acquisition de biens. C'est l'élévation de
l'individu, son émancipation, sa compréhension du monde. Et pour ça il 
faut du temps pour lire, s'instruire, se consacrer aux autres. 
(Christiane Taubira)

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