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ThunderMail is coming soon

Started byJames <invalid@invalid.invalid>
First post2025-04-20 19:15 +0000
Last post2025-05-21 10:50 -0400
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  ThunderMail is coming soon James <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-20 19:15 +0000
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-20 20:35 +0100
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-20 21:50 +0200
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 16:13 +0000
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon D <J@M> - 2025-04-21 20:20 +0200
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2025-04-21 22:07 +0200
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon D <J@M> - 2025-04-20 21:55 +0200
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 21:42 +0200
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-20 15:46 -0500
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-21 08:52 +0100
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-21 17:36 -0500
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-22 05:58 -0400
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-22 07:43 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 23:42 +1000
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2025-04-22 11:12 -0400
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-04-20 21:12 +0100
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-20 15:49 -0500
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-04-21 08:59 +0100
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 08:05 -0400
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-04-21 14:05 +0100
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 11:41 -0400
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-21 18:18 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-04-22 01:42 +0200
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-04-21 18:53 +0200
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 20:07 +1000
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-22 07:49 -0500
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 13:58 +0000
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-22 15:32 +0000
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon David <BD@invalid.now> - 2025-05-03 14:50 +0100
                  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:39 -0400
                    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:14 +0000
                      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:53 +0200
                  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:31 +0000
                    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:59 +0000
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-22 15:39 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 00:27 -0500
                  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 11:31 +0100
                    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 06:14 -0500
                      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 12:36 +0100
                        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 06:50 -0500
                      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 15:54 +0000
                        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 05:00 -0500
                          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-24 12:19 +0100
                            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 14:33 +0200
                              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-25 12:54 +0100
                                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:03 +0200
                                  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-29 16:48 +0100
                            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-24 14:55 +0100
                              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-24 15:26 +0100
                                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 21:05 -0500
                                  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 21:25 -0500
                                    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-25 06:53 +0100
                                      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 01:53 -0500
                                        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-25 08:11 +0100
                                          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 07:06 -0500
                                    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:47 +0200
                                      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 08:20 -0400
                                        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 07:52 -0500
                                          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 12:00 -0400
                                  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Arthur Conan Doyle <dont@bother.com> - 2025-04-25 07:33 -0500
                              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:47 +0200
                                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-24 22:09 +0100
                          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 15:27 +0000
                          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 18:37 +0200
                            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Trump Lost The Tariff War <Trump@US.Gov> - 2025-04-24 17:30 +0000
                              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 21:48 +0200
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 09:45 +0200
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 09:45 +0200
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-04-21 19:53 +0000
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-22 06:31 -0500
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-20 15:47 -0500
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-21 03:45 -0700
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 21:14 -0500
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 00:54 -0500
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-21 13:00 +0100
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Roberto <dash@dominus.net> - 2025-04-21 19:26 +0200
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> - 2025-04-23 00:15 +0100
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon NZ Rules OK <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-23 00:49 +0100
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-04-22 18:36 -0700
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 05:07 -0500
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> - 2025-04-25 00:26 +0100
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-25 05:44 -0700
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-16 06:26 -0500
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2025-05-28 18:26 -0400
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-28 18:58 -0500
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 02:18 +0800
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> - 2025-05-21 10:50 -0400

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#16441

FromRobert <monstoor@spammedia.com>
Date2025-04-25 00:26 +0100
Message-ID<m6vvljFer3dU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#16430
On 24/04/2025 11:07, VanguardLH wrote:

> "Send email to thousands within minutes".  They're oriented to customers
> that want to do bulk mailing, like spammers, and marketfolk.
> 
> BetterMail and Betterbird are not affiliated to each other.

Ah, probably a good thing, then.

-- 
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational 
in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary 
to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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#16455

From"John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com>
Date2025-04-25 05:44 -0700
Message-ID<vug047$3vs2a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#16430
VanguardLH wrote:
> NZ Rules OK wrote:
>> Robert wrote:
>>> James wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can sign up here to be on the waiting list!!!!!:
>>>> <https://thundermail.com/>
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll sign up when they announce BetterMail ;-)
>>
>> It's already released :)
>> <https://www.bettermail.com/>
> 
> Not free, but then neither will be Thundermail.
> 
> https://www.bettermail.com/pricing/
> 
> "Send email to thousands within minutes".  They're oriented to customers
> that want to do bulk mailing, like spammers, and marketfolk.
> 
> BetterMail and Betterbird are not affiliated to each other.

"Send email to thousands within minutes

BetterMail is a NZ based email service provider with the easiest way to
create, send, share and track marketing emails.
With bulk sending, a drag and drop editor, feature rich plans and NZ
based support you can't go wrong."

Sounds to me like Bettermail is service designed for spammers. Am I wrong?

-- 
John C.

I filter out all crossposts and garbage from trolls.

Take back Microsoft from India.

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#16682

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2025-05-16 06:26 -0500
Message-ID<1q9f68l63tb8y$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#16381
James <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> At its core, Thundermail will primarily be a mail service provider, 
> eventually expanding to offer a familiar browser-based experience 
> similar to Gmail or Outlook. Users can send and receive email using new 
> Thundermail accounts they sign up for. The service will also allow using 
> your own custom domain (e.g. your.name@yourdomain.com).
> ...
> You can sign up here to be on the waiting list!!!!!:
> <https://thundermail.com/>

Anyone yet get an invite?  I sent my request the day this thread
started.  No response yet.

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#16777

FromWayne <wayne@nospam.com>
Date2025-05-28 18:26 -0400
Message-ID<10182jj$2qh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#16682
On 5/16/25 7:26 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> James <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> At its core, Thundermail will primarily be a mail service provider,
>> eventually expanding to offer a familiar browser-based experience
>> similar to Gmail or Outlook. Users can send and receive email using new
>> Thundermail accounts they sign up for. The service will also allow using
>> your own custom domain (e.g. your.name@yourdomain.com).
>> ...
>> You can sign up here to be on the waiting list!!!!!:
>> <https://thundermail.com/>
> 
> Anyone yet get an invite?  I sent my request the day this thread
> started.  No response yet.

Invitations will definitely be sent when the system is ready. There is 
no firm time frame at this time.

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#16780

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2025-05-28 18:58 -0500
Message-ID<ri30gf8v6ab8.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#16777
Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> wrote:

> On 5/16/25 7:26 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> James <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> At its core, Thundermail will primarily be a mail service provider,
>>> eventually expanding to offer a familiar browser-based experience
>>> similar to Gmail or Outlook. Users can send and receive email using new
>>> Thundermail accounts they sign up for. The service will also allow using
>>> your own custom domain (e.g. your.name@yourdomain.com).
>>> ...
>>> You can sign up here to be on the waiting list!!!!!:
>>> <https://thundermail.com/>
>> 
>> Anyone yet get an invite?  I sent my request the day this thread
>> started.  No response yet.
> 
> Invitations will definitely be sent when the system is ready. There is 
> no firm time frame at this time.

And, after getting their system up, the wait will be even longer to get
the free service tier.

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/
"So here is the plan: at the beginning, there will be paid subscription
plans at a few different tiers. Once we have a sufficiently strong base
of paying users to sustainably support our services, we plan to
introduce a limited free tier to the public."

The announcement is 2 months old.  Anyone yet get access even if they
are paying for it?

Back in 2004, and earlier, getting a free e-mail account independent of
your ISP was a big deal, and users were willing to wait for an invite.
Free e-mail accounts are rife nowadays, so if Thunder devs take too long
then the hoopla over their service will fade, and they may not get
sufficient freeloaders that convert to paid customers to sustain their
services.

I haven't even them trying to paying customers which would then later
afford a free service tier.  I've not seen any marketing push for
Thundermail.  Seems their announcement was premature.  I have not found
a published timeline or road map for public consumption.  We wouldn't
know if the project stalls, and dies, or is still being worked on.

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#16722

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-21 02:18 +0800
Message-ID<100ih1s$2c2eh$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#16381
On 21/4/2025 3:15 am, James wrote:
> 
> there’s at least one important quality that will distinguish Mozilla’s email service from
> competitors like Gmail: privacy. Thundermail isn’t going to use your
> messages to train AI, it’s not going to invade your inbox with ads, and
> it’s not going to harvest and sell your data.

Sooner or later a betrayal of trust will happen suddenly... :)

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#16738

FromRetirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com>
Date2025-05-21 10:50 -0400
Message-ID<100kp8h$2skmm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#16722
On 5/20/2025 2:18 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 21/4/2025 3:15 am, James wrote:
>>
>> there’s at least one important quality that will distinguish Mozilla’s email service from
>> competitors like Gmail: privacy. Thundermail isn’t going to use your
>> messages to train AI, it’s not going to invade your inbox with ads, and
>> it’s not going to harvest and sell your data.
> 
> Sooner or later a betrayal of trust will happen suddenly... :)
> 

I can't comment on the privacy issue, but with respect to ads, when I
use my gmail account on a win10 machine via firefox 138, using both the
Privacy Badger and the uBlock origin add-ons, I have a gmail inbox
entirely free of any ads whatever.  Same pertains to yahoo mail.

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