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Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text

Started byAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
First post2021-04-25 09:28 +0100
Last post2021-04-26 17:55 -0500
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  Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-25 09:28 +0100
    Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-25 10:11 +0100
      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2021-04-25 10:25 +0100
        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-25 10:47 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-25 11:04 +0100
            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Chris Youlden <fbx@youlden.co.uk> - 2021-04-25 12:13 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-25 12:27 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Chris Youlden <fbx@youlden.co.uk> - 2021-04-26 12:33 +0100
    Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2021-04-26 09:11 +0100
      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-26 09:19 +0100
      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-26 07:55 -0700
        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-26 17:11 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-04-26 16:47 +0000
          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-26 10:45 -0700
            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Marc Auslander <marcausl@gmail.com> - 2021-04-26 14:04 -0400
            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-04-26 18:20 +0000
              Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-26 11:44 -0700
                Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-26 16:02 -0600
                  Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-26 16:49 -0700
                    Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-26 18:39 -0600
                      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-27 09:15 -0700
                        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-27 12:26 -0600
                          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-28 08:20 -0700
                            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 10:37 -0600
                          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Laurence Taylor <laurence@nospam.plus.com> - 2021-04-28 21:40 +0100
                            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2021-04-28 22:01 +0100
                            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2021-04-29 09:19 +0100
                        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Miguel Tomar Nogueira <mnogueira@mail.telepac.pt> - 2021-04-28 02:29 +0000
                        OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 16:14 +0100
                          Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-28 08:42 -0700
                            Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 17:42 +0100
                              Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-28 10:07 -0700
                                Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 18:37 +0100
                          Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2021-04-28 16:59 +0100
                          Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 10:45 -0600
                            Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 17:50 +0100
                              Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 10:57 -0600
                                Re: OT: posting/emailing style (was: Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-04-28 18:10 +0100
                                Re: OT: posting/emailing style Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2021-04-28 20:33 +0100
                                  Re: OT: posting/emailing style Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 14:31 -0600
                                    Re: OT: posting/emailing style The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-04-28 13:38 -0700
                                  Re: OT: posting/emailing style Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2021-04-28 21:35 +0100
                Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-26 23:29 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-26 16:01 -0600
            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> - 2021-04-26 23:28 +0100
              Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-26 16:57 -0700
                Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-26 18:56 -0600
                  Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-27 09:32 -0700
                    Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-27 10:59 -0600
                      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-27 10:26 -0700
                        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-27 12:28 -0600
                          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-28 08:23 -0700
                            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 10:50 -0600
                        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 10:51 -0600
                          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-28 10:15 -0700
                            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2021-04-28 11:48 -0600
                              Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-28 10:58 -0700
        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-04-26 20:00 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-04-26 12:25 -0700
            Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-26 16:26 -0500
        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Miguel Tomar Nogueira <mnogueira@mail.telepac.pt> - 2021-04-27 05:07 +0000
      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Bill H <bhtemp99@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2021-04-26 09:06 -0700
      Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-26 15:54 -0500
        Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text Chris Youlden <fbx@youlden.co.uk> - 2021-04-26 22:58 +0100
          Re: Thunderbird - disabling display of quoted text VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-04-26 17:55 -0500

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FromMiguel Tomar Nogueira <mnogueira@mail.telepac.pt>
Date2021-04-27 05:07 +0000
Message-ID<s68661$17p4$1@neodome.net>
In reply to#252
Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> writes:

> Moreover your top top-posting puts your signature after your reply so
> everything you had quoted gets deleted in my reply.

Since the user you replying to is blind it's probably easier for him to
top-post. However, editor of a newsreader or mailreader should put
signature under all the quoted text regardless if user top-posts or
not. Not sure why the quote would be below his sig unless he copied and
pasted it there manually. Or, perhaps, he typed in his signature
manually while composing the reply?

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#254

FromBill H <bhtemp99@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2021-04-26 09:06 -0700
Message-ID<s66odj$kb2$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#249
On Apr 26 2021, at 01:11 AM Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

> Yeah, that is why I top post!
> 
>   Incidentally can the hot keys used by Tbird be changed so the old muscle
> memory of  Microsoft mail and news clients can continue to be used when this
> old outlook express cannot work any more?
>   Brian
> 


Take a look at the extension tbkeys-lite.  I'm not sure but it looks 
like it might do the job.

Bill

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#271

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2021-04-26 15:54 -0500
Message-ID<17umgr3oxqs5h$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#249
"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Yeah, that is why I top post!

Do you also edit the quoted content in your replies so it matches your
choice of posting style?  That is, before you submit, do you convert all
the quoted content to also be in top-post style?  Else, you're creating
a jumbled mess.

There are lots of arguments of whether to use top- versus
bottom-posting.  Rather than get into all that again, just be polite.
If you bottom-post, all the quoted content should also appear in bottom-
post order.  If you top-post, all the quoted content should also appear
in top-post order.  Else, you are a lazy slob making a mess for other
readers to decipher.

So, what's your excuse for moving the quoted content in your relies to
AFTER the sigdash line hence making the quoted content part of your
signature, not part of the message body?  Quoted content does NOT go
into the sigblock!

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#273

FromChris Youlden <fbx@youlden.co.uk>
Date2021-04-26 22:58 +0100
Message-ID<s67d2f$410$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#271
On 26/04/2021 21:54, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, that is why I top post!
> 
> Do you also edit the quoted content in your replies so it matches your
> choice of posting style?  That is, before you submit, do you convert all
> the quoted content to also be in top-post style?  Else, you're creating
> a jumbled mess.
> 

To be honest, if I were a blind user you would see a scrambled mess, I'm 
sure.

In my book, criticising Brian for the way his posts are laid out is way 
out of order.

I'm just glad that Brian is able to post, no matter how it looks.


-- 

Chris

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#278

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2021-04-26 17:55 -0500
Message-ID<2wo2nicncsjv.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#273
Chris Youlden <fbx@youlden.co.uk> wrote:

> To be honest, if I were a blind user you would see a scrambled mess,
> I'm sure. In my book, criticising Brian for the way his posts are
> laid out is way out of order. I'm just glad that Brian is able to
> post, no matter how it looks.

The culprit appears to be his choice of newsreader, Outlook Express,
which is a poor NNTP client.  However, if blind then how would he
configure OE-QuoteFix, or the config of OE (how did he get the accounts
added?), or the registry edits introduced since WinXP SP-2 to fix where
OE places the sigblock and reply content?  Even if blind, he needs
something to hear his replies as well as the articles he reads.  If his
"reader" lets him hear his composition, he'd realize his quoted content
was in the wrong place.

His choice of 5 lines in his sigblock has nothing to do with him being
blind.  Those lines were his choice.  Quoted content in the wrong
position (after the sigdash) is due to his choice of newsreader.  Being
blind means he still needs some means to hear what he is composing.
Posters should always review before submit whether blind or not.

From his post, it appears he is already contemplating on moving away
from OE, but only if it stops working.  Well, OE never did work well for
newsgroups.  I remember when the flood of OE users showed in Usenet.
What a bane since.

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