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  Information shown by User-Agent header item Wolfgang <wm@ariannuccia.de> - 2025-05-28 12:26 +0200
    Re: Information shown by User-Agent header item dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-05-28 17:59 +0200
      Re: Information shown by User-Agent header item "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-05-28 15:29 -0700
        Re: Information shown by User-Agent header item Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-05-29 01:00 +0200

#16773 — Information shown by User-Agent header item

By default, the header item "User-Agent" shows "Mozilla Thunderbird"
only without giving any further information. Since in many cases, it
would be helpful to see some more information, e.g. the version
number and the operating system, I should like to recommend
performing the following steps for making the User-Agent header item
more verbose:

1. Open Settings | General | Config Editor

2. By searching "UserAgent" you will find:

          mailnews.headers.useMinimalUserAgent    true

3. Toggle it to "false".

4. Close Settings and Config Editor.

Now, the User-Agent header item has become actually verbose. On my
computer, it says:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:138.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/138.0

Best regards,
Wolfgang

-- 
Quem não tem cão caça com gato.

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#16776

On 28/05/2025 12:26, Wolfgang wrote:
> By default, the header item "User-Agent" shows "Mozilla Thunderbird"
> only without giving any further information. Since in many cases, it
> would be helpful to see some more information, e.g. the version
> number and the operating system, I should like to recommend
> performing the following steps for making the User-Agent header item
> more verbose:
> 
> 1. Open Settings | General | Config Editor
> 
> 2. By searching "UserAgent" you will find:
> 
>           mailnews.headers.useMinimalUserAgent    true
> 
> 3. Toggle it to "false".
> 
> 4. Close Settings and Config Editor.
> 
> Now, the User-Agent header item has become actually verbose. On my
> computer, it says:
> 
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:138.0) Gecko/20100101
> Thunderbird/138.0
> 
> Best regards,
> Wolfgang
> 

FYI, this is a privacy feature, it only changes how your information is 
shown on other people's computers, not how other people's information is 
shown on your computer.

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#16778

On 5/28/2025 8:59 AM, dillinger wrote:
> On 28/05/2025 12:26, Wolfgang wrote:
>> By default, the header item "User-Agent" shows "Mozilla Thunderbird"
>> only without giving any further information. Since in many cases, it
>> would be helpful to see some more information, e.g. the version
>> number and the operating system, I should like to recommend
>> performing the following steps for making the User-Agent header item
>> more verbose:
>>
>> 1. Open Settings | General | Config Editor
>>
>> 2. By searching "UserAgent" you will find:
>>
>>           mailnews.headers.useMinimalUserAgent    true
>>
>> 3. Toggle it to "false".
>>
>> 4. Close Settings and Config Editor.
>>
>> Now, the User-Agent header item has become actually verbose. On my
>> computer, it says:
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:138.0) Gecko/20100101
>> Thunderbird/138.0
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Wolfgang
>>
> 
> FYI, this is a privacy feature, it only changes how your information is 
> shown on other people's computers, not how other people's information is 
> shown on your computer.
> 

Windows 7
Thunderbird 52.9.1

When I send a message from my account at one host to my account at a
different host, I see the complete user agent.

When someone posts a message asking about a problem, I wish their
complete user agent was available.  It helps to diagnose the problem or
to decide that I cannot help because it is under Linux or a more recent
version of Thunderbird.

-- 
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

President Trump wants all Palestinians to leave Gaza and
relocate elsewhere.  How many will he accept to relocate
in the United States?

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#16779

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/28/2025 8:59 AM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 28/05/2025 12:26, Wolfgang wrote:
>>> By default, the header item "User-Agent" shows "Mozilla Thunderbird"
>>> only without giving any further information. Since in many cases, it
>>> would be helpful to see some more information, e.g. the version
>>> number and the operating system, I should like to recommend
>>> performing the following steps for making the User-Agent header item
>>> more verbose:
[..snip..]
>>> Now, the User-Agent header item has become actually verbose. On my
>>> computer, it says:
>>>
>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:138.0) Gecko/20100101
>>> Thunderbird/138.0
>> 
>> FYI, this is a privacy feature, it only changes how your information is 
>> shown on other people's computers, not how other people's information is 
>> shown on your computer.
>> 
> 
> Windows 7
> Thunderbird 52.9.1
> 
> When I send a message from my account at one host to my account at a
> different host, I see the complete user agent.
> 
> When someone posts a message asking about a problem, I wish their
> complete user agent was available.  It helps to diagnose the problem or
> to decide that I cannot help because it is under Linux or a more recent
> version of Thunderbird.

If a user has a problem with his software, he should *always mention* the
version of this program in the body of the posting, or at least in the
subject line when asking in the usenet.
No one who needs help should expect that helpful people are poking around
in the headers to get detailed information. That's a question of respect.
So in general it's not worth to offer the whole (true) User-Agent-Header.
[See mine.. :-P ]

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