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  How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-13 23:08 -0500
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 01:19 -0400
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 09:39 -0700
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 14:43 -0400
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 11:48 -0700
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 20:26 +0100
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:49 -0500
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:51 -0500
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-10-29 05:51 +0000
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2025-10-29 15:11 -0500
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) kuato <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-06 22:15 -0700
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-07 22:56 +1100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Andi B." <andi.b@gmx.net> - 2025-11-07 17:21 +0100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:54 +0100
                  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 11:54 +0000
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 15:23 -0500
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-10-30 12:28 +0100
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-31 20:18 +1100
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:48 +0000
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-03 22:51 +1100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 16:54 +0000
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 18:28 +0000
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 19:29 +1100
                  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:26 +0000
                    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 21:40 +1100
                    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-04 18:49 +0200
                      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-05 19:32 +1100
                        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-05 23:11 +0200
                          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-06 19:57 +1100
                            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-11-06 09:32 +0000
                            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:32 +0200
                              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:26 +0100
                                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 10:41 +0100
                              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:12 -0600
                                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:52 +0200
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 16:22 -0600
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 17:34 -0500
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2025-10-30 01:22 +0100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 22:04 -0600
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:02 -0700
                  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-31 08:31 -0400
                    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-01 18:52 +1100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-10-30 05:35 +0000
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-10-14 08:52 -0700
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:53 -0500
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-10-25 04:49 -0300
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000

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#7974 — How to make Google search work (solved)

I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to 
your google account first.

Steps I used:
Enter Google.com in the search bar.
Log-in to your Google Account
Success I can search Google again

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#7975

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to 
> your google account first.
> 
> Steps I used:
> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
> Log-in to your Google Account
> Success I can search Google again

Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google 
profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

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#7980

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> 
>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to 
>> your google account first.
>>
>> Steps I used:
>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>> Log-in to your Google Account
>> Success I can search Google again
> 
> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google 
> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
> 

I took a look at Google yesterday.  It's been a long time since I've 
tried to use from Seamonkey (or even Firefox), and it was kind of shock 
just to see how much irrelevant content there is in the results stream.

Working from Seamonkey, I enabled all scripting and got the same kind of 
error that was reported in the other thread: "Our systems have detected 
unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if 
it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot."

Given that I can get to Google with Firefox and other browsers, despite 
the wording of the error, it's not a problem with IP address, but a 
scripting issue, where Google's scripts can't resolve their CAPTCHA, and 
as a result, they conclude that access is coming from a bot, and not an 
interactive user.

For what it's worth, there is a site that I visit frequently that has 
started using Cloudflare to protect against high-volume bot-scraping 
(primarily AI activity), and I've found similar results, where it's not 
possible to get past Cloudflare's CAPTCHA process.

To me, that indicates that both Google's and Cloudflare's scripting are 
doing something that Seamonkey currently can't handle.

I also just made a check in PaleMoon, and initial access to google.com 
produces the same error, but clicking "I'm not a robot" produces 
Google's puzzle resolution dialog (in this case, identifying fire 
hydrants), and I can get through to the main Google dialog.

One thing that I have in Seamonkey is an old Thunderbird extension 
called OpenWith, and that makes it easy to launch a site in another 
browser, whether from a link in email or a browser, browser tab, address 
bar, or bookmarks entry. In my workflows, it's something that I've 
gotten to the point of not being able to live without. Unfortunately, 
the developer lost interest in that project (including the WebExtensions 
version for modern versions of Thunderbird) -- not only is development 
halted, but it's all been removed from addons.thunderbird.net.

In the meantime, it's not hard to get Google results from other proxying 
sites, and if you don't need something specific that Google offers, 
these may be preferable to querying Google directly. Each of these sites 
advertises privacy-enhancement, and the major thing is that when you 
search, you're interacting with the proxy site, and then where the proxy 
is querying Google, rather than you directly, and there's no exposure of 
your activities to Google.

Personally, I prefer using StartPage, because they allow for saving 
personal preferences without using a session cookie or forcing a login. 
Instead, once you set your preferences, then you can get a URL that 
allows for repeated usage without a cookie or login. In Seamonkey, you 
can use that URL in the definition of the default search engine, or you 
can set that URL as your home page, or you can bookmark.  In my case, I 
keep a folder in my Bookmarks Bar, where I have links for several search 
engines, and where I can easily choose which search engine I want for 
any search. StartPage is at the top, but I have several other search 
engines there.

Other search engines that I know about that proxy Google results include 
Ecosia, Qwant and SwissCows.

Smith

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#7982

NFN Smith wrote:

> Given that I can get to Google with Firefox and other browsers,
> despite the wording of the error, it's not a problem with IP address,
> but a scripting issue, where Google's scripts can't resolve their
> CAPTCHA, and as a result, they conclude that access is coming from a
> bot, and not an interactive user.

Agreed.

> For what it's worth, there is a site that I visit frequently that has
> started using Cloudflare to protect against high-volume bot-scraping
> (primarily AI activity), and I've found similar results, where it's
> not possible to get past Cloudflare's CAPTCHA process.
> 
> To me, that indicates that both Google's and Cloudflare's scripting
> are doing something that Seamonkey currently can't handle.

Yes. As I said at the beginning of the thread, SM has been unable to 
handle reCAPTCHA and Cloudflare for the last few months. In the case of 
reCAPTCHA, you check the box and get an endless spinner, never reaching 
the challenge dialog. In the case of Cloudflare, the site seems to load 
endlessly, but the visitor sees only a blank page; with other browsers 
Cloudflare satisfies itself without user input and allows normal access.

> I also just made a check in PaleMoon, and initial access to
> google.com produces the same error, but clicking "I'm not a robot"
> produces Google's puzzle resolution dialog (in this case, identifying
> fire hydrants), and I can get through to the main Google dialog.

This is what should happen, but SM can't get to this stage. We need 
someone to fix this in SM. In the meantime, SM users have to search with 
other engines or other browsers.

-- 
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

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#7983

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> I also just made a check in PaleMoon, and initial access to
>> google.com produces the same error, but clicking "I'm not a robot"
>> produces Google's puzzle resolution dialog (in this case, identifying
>> fire hydrants), and I can get through to the main Google dialog.
> 
> This is what should happen, but SM can't get to this stage. We need 
> someone to fix this in SM. In the meantime, SM users have to search with 
> other engines or other browsers.

I neglected to mention that this is something that's worth filing a 
Bugzilla report for.

If I can get to that in the next few days, I may do that myself.

Smith

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#7984

"Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> writes:

> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>
>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>> your google account first.  Steps I used: Enter Google.com in the
>> search bar.  Log-in to your Google Account Success I can search
>> Google again
>
> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.

In Google account settings you can turn off saving searches, also
searches and history on Youtube.

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/54068

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#7989

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> 
>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to 
>> your google account first.
>>
>> Steps I used:
>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>> Log-in to your Google Account
>> Success I can search Google again
> 
> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google 
> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
> 

Or Use DuckDuckGo

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#7990

Or use DuckDuckGo.

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> 
>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to 
>> your google account first.
>>
>> Steps I used:
>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>> Log-in to your Google Account
>> Success I can search Google again
> 
> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google 
> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
> 

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#8035

On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> 
>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>> your google account first.
>>
>> Steps I used:
>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>> Log-in to your Google Account
>> Success I can search Google again
> 
> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
> 

In any case G search now
<https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
both simple and effective.

StartPage searches B! without JS, but not G.

Brave search has a poorer index and only asks for JS if you use it
intensively.

Otherwise a self-hosted https://4get.ca (PHP FFS) or similar ...

/df

-- 
London
UK

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#8039

On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
<surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> wrote:

> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>
>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>> 
>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>> your google account first.
>>>
>>> Steps I used:
>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>> Success I can search Google again
>> 
>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
>
> In any case G search now
> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
> both simple and effective.

Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.

Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#8040

On 10/29/25 1:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
> <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>> your google account first.
>>>>
>>>> Steps I used:
>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>>
>>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
>>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
>>
>> In any case G search now
>> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
>> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
>> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
>> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
>> both simple and effective.
> 
> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.

???????
Used several times today and just now without problem.
SeaMonkey 2.53.21 with JavaScript and cookies disabled on Debian 12.8



> 
> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.
> 

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#8106

Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/29/25 1:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>>> your google account first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steps I used:
>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>>> Success I can search Google again

> ???????
> Used several times today and just now without problem.
> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 with JavaScript and cookies disabled on Debian 12.8
Google search doesn't work without logging
in???

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#8110

On 7/11/2025 4:15 pm, kuato wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 10/29/25 1:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
>>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>>>> your google account first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steps I used:
>>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>>>> Success I can search Google again
> 
>> ???????
>> Used several times today and just now without problem.
>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 with JavaScript and cookies disabled on Debian 12.8
> Google search doesn't work without logging
> in???

Did it previously work WITHOUT logging in??

(I use DDG so don't know.)
-- 
Daniel70

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#8112

Daniel70 schrieb:
> On 7/11/2025 4:15 pm, kuato wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> On 10/29/25 1:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
>>>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>>>>> your google account first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steps I used:
>>>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>
>>> ???????
>>> Used several times today and just now without problem.
>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 with JavaScript and cookies disabled on Debian 12.8
>> Google search doesn't work without logging
>> in???
> 
> Did it previously work WITHOUT logging in??
> 
> (I use DDG so don't know.)

Here google search works like anytime before. Without log in. On Linux with 2.53.18.1 and 
2.42.9 on OS/2 - ArcaOS too.

Maybe cause I've 'general.useragent.override.google.com' (and other country code instead 
.com too) set to 'Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' in 
my profiles since years. I don't know.

Regards, Andi

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#8113

Daniel70 wrote:
> On 7/11/2025 4:15 pm, kuato wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> On 10/29/25 1:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
>>>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>>>>> your google account first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steps I used:
>>>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>
>>> ???????
>>> Used several times today and just now without problem.
>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 with JavaScript and cookies disabled on Debian 12.8
>> Google search doesn't work without logging
>> in???
> 
> Did it previously work WITHOUT logging in??
> 
> (I use DDG so don't know.)

Requiring a login to do a search would be beyond idiotic, Google's 
original business model was micropayments from the "referrals".  I'm 
assuming it's a bug, although they probably consider Seamonkey so 
insignificant nowadays that they may well not bother fixing it.

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#8115

On 2025-11-07, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

> Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 7/11/2025 4:15 pm, kuato wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/25 1:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
>>>>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>>>>>> your google account first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steps I used:
>>>>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>>>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>>
>>>> ???????
>>>> Used several times today and just now without problem.
>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 with JavaScript and cookies disabled on Debian 12.8
>>> Google search doesn't work without logging
>>> in???
>>
>> Did it previously work WITHOUT logging in??
>>
>> (I use DDG so don't know.)
>
> Requiring a login to do a search would be beyond idiotic, Google's
> original business model was micropayments from the "referrals".  I'm
> assuming it's a bug, although they probably consider Seamonkey so
> insignificant nowadays that they may well not bother fixing it.

The problem was the "you're a bot" message with reCAPTCHA, which was
unusable, so if you got that page, you'd not be able to use Google
search; logging in either made that go away or made it less likely to
pop up.

Meanwhile, I haven't got that message lately (at one point I think it
was showing for every search attempt), so it's possible some
"bot-detection" rule was corrected on their side.


For reCAPTCHA, check the nightly builds starting with Oct. 29; frg
backported bug 1502802, which implements the postMessage() interface
Google suddenly started requiring for reCAPTCHA in SeaMonkey and
Firefox.

(There's a lot of spaghetti minified JS code which will eventually
behave differently for different UAs, but I wasn't able to figure out
how to trigger a different workflow in a way that did work without bug
1502802, but it's possible there's a way to do so, given that reCAPTCHA
is reportedly working in Pale Moon?)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8041

Charlie Gibbs wrote on 10/29/2025 1:47 PM:
> On 2025-10-29, Dirk Fieldhouse
> <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>> your google account first.
>>>>
>>>> Steps I used:
>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>>
>>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
>>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
>>
>> In any case G search now
>> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
>> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
>> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
>> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
>> both simple and effective.
> 
> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.
> 
> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.
> 

Duck duck is working fine for me with latest version of seamonkey 
running on win 11.

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#8048

Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> 
> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.
> 
> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.
> 

I don't have a separate search bar, that takes too much "real estate" on 
that line.
I type whatever I'm looking for into the address bar, wait a second and 
it offers me "Search DuckDuckGo for xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", I position to 
that, Enter and off it goes.  It does come back with "waiting for 
improving duckduckgo.com" but only after having listed the results of my 
search.
After that, I'll type any new search into the duckduckgo line at the top 
and hit Enter BUT NOT BY CLICKING ON THE MAGNIFYING GLASS.

Works for me.

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#8050

On 2025-10-30, R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
>> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
>> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.
>> 
>> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.
>
> I don't have a separate search bar, that takes too much "real estate" on 
> that line.
> I type whatever I'm looking for into the address bar, wait a second and 
> it offers me "Search DuckDuckGo for xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", I position to 
> that, Enter and off it goes.  It does come back with "waiting for 
> improving duckduckgo.com" but only after having listed the results of my 
> search.

I too don't have a separate search bar.  Normally I've been bringing
up DuckDuckGo from my bookmarks (it's the first one), then typing my
search into the DuckDuckGo search bar.  Until a few days ago that
worked just fine, but since then it's started wandering off into
improving.duckduckgo.com and hanging.

I tried your suggestion and typed a search into Seamonkey's address
bar.  Nothing else comes up unless it's part of a URL that I've already
visited.  However, if I click the button with the magnifying glass and
the word "Search", it builds and executes a DuckDuckGo search that comes
back with what I'm after.

> After that, I'll type any new search into the duckduckgo line at the top 
> and hit Enter BUT NOT BY CLICKING ON THE MAGNIFYING GLASS.

Ditto.  I've always used the DuckDuckGo line at this point.

> Works for me.

Me too.  Thanks for the hint.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#8054

On 31/10/2025 6:31 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-10-30, R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> wrote:
>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
>>> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
>>> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.
>>>
>>> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.
>>
>> I don't have a separate search bar, that takes too much "real estate" on
>> that line.
>> I type whatever I'm looking for into the address bar, wait a second and
>> it offers me "Search DuckDuckGo for xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", I position to
>> that, Enter and off it goes.  It does come back with "waiting for
>> improving duckduckgo.com" but only after having listed the results of my
>> search.
> 
> I too don't have a separate search bar.  Normally I've been bringing
> up DuckDuckGo from my bookmarks (it's the first one), then typing my
> search into the DuckDuckGo search bar.  Until a few days ago that
> worked just fine, but since then it's started wandering off into
> improving.duckduckgo.com and hanging.
> 
> I tried your suggestion and typed a search into Seamonkey's address
> bar.  Nothing else comes up unless it's part of a URL that I've already
> visited.  However, if I click the button with the magnifying glass and
> the word "Search", it builds and executes a DuckDuckGo search that comes
> back with what I'm after.
> 
>> After that, I'll type any new search into the duckduckgo line at the top
>> and hit Enter BUT NOT BY CLICKING ON THE MAGNIFYING GLASS.
> 
> Ditto.  I've always used the DuckDuckGo line at this point.
> 
>> Works for me.
> 
> Me too.  Thanks for the hint.
> 
I just type what I'm looking for in my SeaMonkey Browser Address Bar 
(having previously selected DDG as my Search tool of choice) and then 
hit "Entry" and DDG returns its results.

WFM!!
-- 
Daniel70

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