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Re: How to make Google search work (solved)

From NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject Re: How to make Google search work (solved)
Date 2025-10-14 09:39 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> 
>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to 
>> your google account first.
>>
>> Steps I used:
>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>> Log-in to your Google Account
>> Success I can search Google again
> 
> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google 
> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
> 

I took a look at Google yesterday.  It's been a long time since I've 
tried to use from Seamonkey (or even Firefox), and it was kind of shock 
just to see how much irrelevant content there is in the results stream.

Working from Seamonkey, I enabled all scripting and got the same kind of 
error that was reported in the other thread: "Our systems have detected 
unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if 
it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot."

Given that I can get to Google with Firefox and other browsers, despite 
the wording of the error, it's not a problem with IP address, but a 
scripting issue, where Google's scripts can't resolve their CAPTCHA, and 
as a result, they conclude that access is coming from a bot, and not an 
interactive user.

For what it's worth, there is a site that I visit frequently that has 
started using Cloudflare to protect against high-volume bot-scraping 
(primarily AI activity), and I've found similar results, where it's not 
possible to get past Cloudflare's CAPTCHA process.

To me, that indicates that both Google's and Cloudflare's scripting are 
doing something that Seamonkey currently can't handle.

I also just made a check in PaleMoon, and initial access to google.com 
produces the same error, but clicking "I'm not a robot" produces 
Google's puzzle resolution dialog (in this case, identifying fire 
hydrants), and I can get through to the main Google dialog.

One thing that I have in Seamonkey is an old Thunderbird extension 
called OpenWith, and that makes it easy to launch a site in another 
browser, whether from a link in email or a browser, browser tab, address 
bar, or bookmarks entry. In my workflows, it's something that I've 
gotten to the point of not being able to live without. Unfortunately, 
the developer lost interest in that project (including the WebExtensions 
version for modern versions of Thunderbird) -- not only is development 
halted, but it's all been removed from addons.thunderbird.net.

In the meantime, it's not hard to get Google results from other proxying 
sites, and if you don't need something specific that Google offers, 
these may be preferable to querying Google directly. Each of these sites 
advertises privacy-enhancement, and the major thing is that when you 
search, you're interacting with the proxy site, and then where the proxy 
is querying Google, rather than you directly, and there's no exposure of 
your activities to Google.

Personally, I prefer using StartPage, because they allow for saving 
personal preferences without using a session cookie or forcing a login. 
Instead, once you set your preferences, then you can get a URL that 
allows for repeated usage without a cookie or login. In Seamonkey, you 
can use that URL in the definition of the default search engine, or you 
can set that URL as your home page, or you can bookmark.  In my case, I 
keep a folder in my Bookmarks Bar, where I have links for several search 
engines, and where I can easily choose which search engine I want for 
any search. StartPage is at the top, but I have several other search 
engines there.

Other search engines that I know about that proxy Google results include 
Ecosia, Qwant and SwissCows.

Smith

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How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-13 23:08 -0500
  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 01:19 -0400
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 09:39 -0700
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 14:43 -0400
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 11:48 -0700
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 20:26 +0100
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:49 -0500
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:51 -0500
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-10-29 05:51 +0000
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2025-10-29 15:11 -0500
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) kuato <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-06 22:15 -0700
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-07 22:56 +1100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Andi B." <andi.b@gmx.net> - 2025-11-07 17:21 +0100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:54 +0100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 11:54 +0000
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 15:23 -0500
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-10-30 12:28 +0100
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-31 20:18 +1100
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:48 +0000
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-03 22:51 +1100
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 16:54 +0000
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 18:28 +0000
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 19:29 +1100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:26 +0000
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 21:40 +1100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-04 18:49 +0200
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-05 19:32 +1100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-05 23:11 +0200
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-06 19:57 +1100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-11-06 09:32 +0000
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:32 +0200
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:26 +0100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 10:41 +0100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:12 -0600
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:52 +0200
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 16:22 -0600
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 17:34 -0500
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2025-10-30 01:22 +0100
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 22:04 -0600
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:02 -0700
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-31 08:31 -0400
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-01 18:52 +1100
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-10-30 05:35 +0000
  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-10-14 08:52 -0700
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:53 -0500
  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-10-25 04:49 -0300
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000

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