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  FF vs BR vs bad Internet T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-15 12:11 -0700
    Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-03-15 13:49 -0600
      Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-15 13:22 -0700
        Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> - 2025-03-16 14:01 +0000
    Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-03-15 16:33 -0500
    Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 01:17 +0000
      Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-03-16 03:45 +0100
      Re: FF vs BR vs bad Internet T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-15 20:26 -0700

#12702 — FF vs BR vs bad Internet

Hi All,

I had the experience two days ago at a customer site
where the Internet carrier, in their ultimate wisdom,
had provisioned two customers with the same fixed
IP address.  They admitted to the problem but would
not fix it.  Needless to say, my customer gets a
new Internet provider come next week.

So the Internet connection got broken every five second
or so until the other party on the provision went
home.  Then everything was solid.

Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser
(Blink) on the customer's machine.  Both browser
had heart failure over the problem.  Brave would
almost not work.  But Firefox would mostly tolerate
the problem, although with a lot of complaining.
And I could not download poop with either of them.

-T

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#12706

On 3/15/2025 1:11 PM, T wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I had the experience two days ago at a customer site
> where the Internet carrier, in their ultimate wisdom,
> had provisioned two customers with the same fixed
> IP address.  They admitted to the problem but would
> not fix it.  Needless to say, my customer gets a
> new Internet provider come next week.
> 
> So the Internet connection got broken every five second
> or so until the other party on the provision went
> home.  Then everything was solid.
> 
> Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser
> (Blink) on the customer's machine.  Both browser
> had heart failure over the problem.  Brave would
> almost not work.  But Firefox would mostly tolerate
> the problem, although with a lot of complaining.
> And I could not download poop with either of them.

Who was the provider offering such exquisite customer service?
-- 
Jeff Barnett

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#12710

On 3/15/25 12:49 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
> On 3/15/2025 1:11 PM, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I had the experience two days ago at a customer site
>> where the Internet carrier, in their ultimate wisdom,
>> had provisioned two customers with the same fixed
>> IP address.  They admitted to the problem but would
>> not fix it.  Needless to say, my customer gets a
>> new Internet provider come next week.
>>
>> So the Internet connection got broken every five second
>> or so until the other party on the provision went
>> home.  Then everything was solid.
>>
>> Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser
>> (Blink) on the customer's machine.  Both browser
>> had heart failure over the problem.  Brave would
>> almost not work.  But Firefox would mostly tolerate
>> the problem, although with a lot of complaining.
>> And I could not download poop with either of them.
> 
> Who was the provider offering such exquisite customer service?

Frontier

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#12731

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 3/15/25 12:49 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote:
>> On 3/15/2025 1:11 PM, T wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I had the experience two days ago at a customer site
>>> where the Internet carrier, in their ultimate wisdom,
>>> had provisioned two customers with the same fixed
>>> IP address.? They admitted to the problem but would
<snip>

>> Who was the provider offering such exquisite customer service?

> Frontier

From what I heard, they make Xfinity look good.
I cannot get them where I am, but 50 miles away
they are the only option and I always hear
complaints.

-- 
[t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
                        - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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#12714

T wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I had the experience two days ago at a customer site
> where the Internet carrier, in their ultimate wisdom,
> had provisioned two customers with the same fixed
> IP address.  They admitted to the problem but would
> not fix it.  Needless to say, my customer gets a
> new Internet provider come next week.
> 
> So the Internet connection got broken every five second
> or so until the other party on the provision went
> home.  Then everything was solid.
> 
> Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser
> (Blink) on the customer's machine.  Both browser
> had heart failure over the problem.  Brave would
> almost not work.  But Firefox would mostly tolerate
> the problem, although with a lot of complaining.
> And I could not download poop with either of them.
> 
> -T

You run across some interesting computer related issues.
:)

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#12717

On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:11:19 -0700, T wrote:

> Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser (Blink) on the
> customer's machine.  Both browser had heart failure over the problem. 

Nothing, really, is going to work in that situation. The underlying 
plumbing of your Internet connection is broken in a very fundamental way, 
and there’s nothing higher-level layers can do to fix it.

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#12720

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:11:19 -0700, T wrote:
> 
>> Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser (Blink) on the
>> customer's machine.  Both browser had heart failure over the problem. 
> 
> Nothing, really, is going to work in that situation. The underlying 
> plumbing of your Internet connection is broken in a very fundamental way, 
> and there’s nothing higher-level layers can do to fix it.

Exactly. It's like having a power cut and trying to use a different
vacuum cleaner.

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#12722

On 3/15/25 6:17 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:11:19 -0700, T wrote:
> 
>> Anyway, I put both Firefox (Gecko) and Brave Browser (Blink) on the
>> customer's machine.  Both browser had heart failure over the problem.
> 
> Nothing, really, is going to work in that situation. The underlying
> plumbing of your Internet connection is broken in a very fundamental way,
> and there’s nothing higher-level layers can do to fix it.

True.

I was just impressed at how each browser tolerated the
problem.  FF came out on top.

-T

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