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Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people?

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VanguardLH:

> >> I don't see all threads in Usenet.  I use filters to get rid of the
> >> dross.  
> > 
> > But you still write and reply as you've read all the messages of a poster. Tsk
> > tsk ...
> 
> I respond to what I see, and so do you.  If I don't see a post, I won't
> be responding to it like I've read it, could I?

You should. If you reply in a thread, expecially to the OP, at least you
should disable filters to that poster, before accusing them omit informations
that they already provided. It's *your* filter that prevents you to read
before writing. 

> >> Carlos said his FF 140 ESR didn't have reader mode available for your
> >> example website.
> > 
> > Who cares? 
> 
> It showed inconsistency to your statement that reader view at the
> example website worked in prior versions.

But he didn't say he tried with F9. And v.140 comes from one year back, it
doesn't disprove my point.

> Did you ever try Smith's suggestion of testing with a fresh profile in
> Firefox?  

Just out of curiosity, yes. It's not a profile issue.

> >>> I rolled back to 151.0.3 and I'm gonna stick with
> >>> it hoping they retreat, like they did with the internal PDF viewer.
> 
> So, you went through the effort and time to rollback to a prior version,
> but you couldn't test an add-on just because you think Mozilla should do
> whatever an add-on can do.

I could. I wouldn't. I shouldn't. In time, I will be forced to, even if it's
not necessary. That's how software should not be designed.

> >> As for the internal PDF viewer, yep, that's another Mozilla project at
> >> Github, so anyone could use it in any web browser or add-on.  
> > 
> > You don't know what I was talking about, do you? You didn't follow the
> > incident.
> 
> You didn't give the Message-ID of their other thread disconnected from
> this one, so, no, I didn't go hunting for a separate issue from the
> topic of this thread, but I did address the side topic which you brought
> into this thread responding to what you said here, not what you said
> elsewhere.  
	
Nope. You answered a question I never asked: "What is the FF internal PDF
viewer and how do I enable/disable it?". Instead, I wrote: "I hope they
retreat, like they did with the internal PDF viewer." Since you didn't know
about the incident but chose not to drop the argument, you could have replied:
"How did they retreat then?"

> Do you use an adblocker in the web browser? ... That's just like
> using filters in Usenet to decide what is your view of Usenet.

Nope. Usenet is not the Web. 

> Mozilla devs don't visit here, so this community can do nothing to correct Firefox.  

Yep. You know that I already knew that.

> Could be a narcissistic dev decided
> to make the readbility.js score apply to both menu entry and key combo
> for consistency.

Exactly.

> You don't have to be a dev to open a ticket.

I know, I've done it before.

-- 
Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it

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Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 14:04 +0200
  Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:13 +0800
    Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 14:44 +0200
      Re: Here we go... Firefox's reader view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:52 +0800
        Re: Here we go... Firefox's reader view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 00:58 +0800
      Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:35 +0200
        Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 00:23 +0800
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:05 -0700
    Re: Here... Reader's VIew... Quick Filter "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 01:18 +0800
      Re: Here... Reader's VIew... Quick Filter NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 12:42 -0700
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-29 12:32 -0500
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:00 +0200
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 00:25 -0500
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-30 13:24 +0200
          Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 12:16 -0500
            Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:24 +0200
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Mozilla User <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 06:56 +0100
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-30 13:28 +0200
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 12:18 -0500
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Mozilla User <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 23:05 +0100
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-07-01 08:42 +1000
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:31 +0200
          Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 20:46 +0800
          Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:47 +0200
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 21:53 +0000
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 20:15 -0500
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-01 01:50 +0000
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:35 +0200
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-01 23:52 +0000
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 12:36 +0800
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 08:41 +0200

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