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Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people?

From Mozilla User <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.firefox
Subject Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people?
Date 2026-06-30 23:05 +0100
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On 30/06/2026 12:28, Luca wrote:
> Mozilla User:
> 
>> On 29/06/2026 13:04, Luca wrote:
>>> Until the previous FF version they had forgotten F9, and I could still
>>> activate the reader's view on many sites, even if "Activate Reader's View" was
>>> hidden in the View menu. Now they disabled any chance to use it, when some
>>> internal sadistic stupid algorythm decides that I can't even /try/ the
>>> Reader's View, when I know that it's perfectly functional, like in Google's AI
>>> mode.
>>>
>>> The narcissism of Mozilla's programmers has struck again, damn them.
>>>
>>
>> Not all web pages have a Reader View, and the Mozilla programmers make
>> clear in point 1 on this page:
>>
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages.
>>
>> Browsers only render pages as they are. They can't create anything out
>> of thin air.
>>
>> Perhaps you would care to apologise to the Mozilla programmers for
>> calling them narcissists?
> 
> I'm inclined to call you a blind and faithful follower of theirs. Blind to
> what I wrote. And v. 151.0.3 is here to prove I'm right.
> 

As an avid user of Mozilla products, I use Firefox and Thunderbird. But 
that's not all. I use quite a few more. You can see the full list here: 
https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/products/.

Let me tell you something else you might not know. It is the 
responsibility of website creators to provide a 'Reader View' on a 
webpage. Mozilla Firefox and other popular browsers only provide users 
with a GUI tool to make life easier. Should browser developers create 
something that isn't on the website? Is that what you are saying? Where 
would we stop? What else could browser creators provide that isn't in 
the website code?

Mozilla uses the most straightforward method, which is also web 
standard-compliant, to trigger the Reader View icon and its related 
shortcut function key.

In the link I provided earlier, point number 1 starts with:

'If a page is available in Reader View'.

Now, tell us what you think about this. You must have something to say; 
otherwise, you wouldn't be going around calling people names like a 
madman. You called them 'narcissists' and me a 'blind and faithful 
follower of theirs'. I am blind, that is true, but I am not a faithful 
follower of anyone. I'm an avid user of Mozilla products, but that 
doesn't make me a blind follower of Mozilla. I also use Edge and Chrome. 
  I use Windows 11 as well as Linux Ubuntu. Does that make me a blind 
follower of any of them? Please explain without using any expletives.


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Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 14:04 +0200
  Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:13 +0800
    Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 14:44 +0200
      Re: Here we go... Firefox's reader view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:52 +0800
        Re: Here we go... Firefox's reader view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 00:58 +0800
      Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:35 +0200
        Re: Here we go...forgotten F9...activate the reader's view "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 00:23 +0800
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:05 -0700
    Re: Here... Reader's VIew... Quick Filter "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 01:18 +0800
      Re: Here... Reader's VIew... Quick Filter NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 12:42 -0700
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-29 12:32 -0500
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:00 +0200
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 00:25 -0500
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-30 13:24 +0200
          Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 12:16 -0500
            Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:24 +0200
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Mozilla User <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 06:56 +0100
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-06-30 13:28 +0200
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 12:18 -0500
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Mozilla User <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 23:05 +0100
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-07-01 08:42 +1000
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:31 +0200
          Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 20:46 +0800
          Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's VIew is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:47 +0200
  Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 21:53 +0000
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-06-30 20:15 -0500
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-01 01:50 +0000
    Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:35 +0200
      Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-01 23:52 +0000
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 12:36 +0800
        Re: Here we go again: now the Reader's View is gone for a lot of sites where it worked perfectly. What's wrong with these Mozilla people? Luca <luca@no.spam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 08:41 +0200

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