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  desktop background remains dark sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-10 21:54 -0500
    Re: desktop background remains dark "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-03-10 23:18 -0400
    Re: desktop background remains dark Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-11 16:34 +0000
      Re: desktop background remains dark sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-11 16:09 -0500
        Re: desktop background remains dark Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:17 -0400
          Re: desktop background remains dark sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-11 19:50 -0500
            Re: desktop background remains dark Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-11 21:07 -0400
              Re: desktop background remains dark sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-11 21:17 -0500
                Re: desktop background remains dark sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-12 20:17 -0500
                Re: desktop background remains dark Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:13 +0000
                  Re: desktop background remains dark sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-22 10:20 -0500
                    Re: desktop background remains dark Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-22 18:31 +0000

#17683 — desktop background remains dark

For some reason, when I wake my 11 box from sleep, for the last couple 
of days the screen background remains all black.  It is set to shuffle 
through about 4 different pictures, and has always worked just fine, and 
did work properly when I'd wake the system.  Programs I open look and 
work as they should.  Taskbar and icons all appear normal.  Desktop 
icons also show.  Only thing missing is the proper background images.

First time I had it happen, I right clicked on the desktop and clicked 
refresh and it came right up as it should.  Last couple times, I just 
wait and do what I intended to work on, and within about 30-60 seconds 
it finally gets the screen right.

I don't know if this might have anything to do with it but I did get a 
new monitor a few weeks back, but Windows 11 loaded whatever drivers it 
needed and it does work just fine otherwise.
Anybody seen this or have a clue why it might be doing this?


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#17684

On 3/10/25 10:54 PM, sticks wrote:
> For some reason, when I wake my 11 box from sleep, for the last couple of days the screen 
> background remains all black.  It is set to shuffle through about 4 different pictures, 
> and has always worked just fine, and did work properly when I'd wake the system.  Programs 
> I open look and work as they should.  Taskbar and icons all appear normal.  Desktop icons 
> also show.  Only thing missing is the proper background images.
> 
> First time I had it happen, I right clicked on the desktop and clicked refresh and it came 
> right up as it should.  Last couple times, I just wait and do what I intended to work on, 
> and within about 30-60 seconds it finally gets the screen right.
> 
> I don't know if this might have anything to do with it but I did get a new monitor a few 
> weeks back, but Windows 11 loaded whatever drivers it needed and it does work just fine 
> otherwise.
> Anybody seen this or have a clue why it might be doing this?
> 
> 
My wife and a friend have had a few instances where their PC, laptops and both HPs, had no 
screen image.  It took me 2 boots to realize that the blinking HD light was indicating 
something was going on.  I took it to mean the laptop booted and was doing something.

It's not my PC and I don't use it so I'm not familiar with the lights, that's why I say this.

The issue is really very intermittent.  In my wife's issue it happens maybe 1 in 5 reboots 
or wakes.

I did some research and finally, weeks ago, I found there was a HP support assist program 
on her laptop.  The program had an option to check for updates.  So as a try I did, and it 
came up with some updates.   I think there were 2 maybe, one was some innocuous item.  The 
2nd was a BIOS update.  I hate doing these things.   But, after 2 weeks now it's steady 
and seems to be working fine.    The was one of the prime suggestions on almost ever web 
search I did.   Seems like CoPilot might have been right.  CoPilot and google and DDG all.

YMMV.

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#17699

sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> For some reason, when I wake my 11 box from sleep, for the last couple 
> of days the screen background remains all black.  It is set to shuffle 
> through about 4 different pictures, and has always worked just fine, and 
> did work properly when I'd wake the system.  Programs I open look and 
> work as they should.  Taskbar and icons all appear normal.  Desktop 
> icons also show.  Only thing missing is the proper background images.
> 
> First time I had it happen, I right clicked on the desktop and clicked 
> refresh and it came right up as it should.  Last couple times, I just 
> wait and do what I intended to work on, and within about 30-60 seconds 
> it finally gets the screen right.
> 
> I don't know if this might have anything to do with it but I did get a 
> new monitor a few weeks back, but Windows 11 loaded whatever drivers it 
> needed and it does work just fine otherwise.
> Anybody seen this or have a clue why it might be doing this?

  FWIW, I don't have your specific problem, but a similar one.

  Mine is not with the Background (of the Desktop) and not with its
Slideshow setting, but with the Lock screen and its Windows spotlight
setting.

  Sometimes, when I wake the system (laptop), the Lock screen is all
black (except for the time and date), instead of showing a Windows
spotlight picture. The next time, the problem is mostly gone, but
sometimes repeats for a couple of times.

  So my 'problem' is similar to yours, just in a slightly different
environment.

  AFAICT, it started some time ago. Last update cycle? Or the one
before?

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#17705

On 3/11/2025 11:34 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>> For some reason, when I wake my 11 box from sleep, for the last couple
>> of days the screen background remains all black.  It is set to shuffle
>> through about 4 different pictures, and has always worked just fine, and
>> did work properly when I'd wake the system.  Programs I open look and
>> work as they should.  Taskbar and icons all appear normal.  Desktop
>> icons also show.  Only thing missing is the proper background images.
>>
>> First time I had it happen, I right clicked on the desktop and clicked
>> refresh and it came right up as it should.  Last couple times, I just
>> wait and do what I intended to work on, and within about 30-60 seconds
>> it finally gets the screen right.
>>
>> I don't know if this might have anything to do with it but I did get a
>> new monitor a few weeks back, but Windows 11 loaded whatever drivers it
>> needed and it does work just fine otherwise.
>> Anybody seen this or have a clue why it might be doing this?
> 
>    FWIW, I don't have your specific problem, but a similar one.
> 
>    Mine is not with the Background (of the Desktop) and not with its
> Slideshow setting, but with the Lock screen and its Windows spotlight
> setting.
> 
>    Sometimes, when I wake the system (laptop), the Lock screen is all
> black (except for the time and date), instead of showing a Windows
> spotlight picture. The next time, the problem is mostly gone, but
> sometimes repeats for a couple of times.
> 
>    So my 'problem' is similar to yours, just in a slightly different
> environment.
> 
>    AFAICT, it started some time ago. Last update cycle? Or the one
> before?

I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same reason 
for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last update, and 
before today's updates, so I would wonder why it worked for 3 weeks and 
then decided to start doing this.  I will keep checking for causes and 
solutions, but it isn't the end of the world for me since it basically 
gets it right in about 30 seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is 
going on.


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#17706

On Tue, 3/11/2025 5:09 PM, sticks wrote:
> On 3/11/2025 11:34 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>>> For some reason, when I wake my 11 box from sleep, for the last couple
>>> of days the screen background remains all black.  It is set to shuffle
>>> through about 4 different pictures, and has always worked just fine, and
>>> did work properly when I'd wake the system.  Programs I open look and
>>> work as they should.  Taskbar and icons all appear normal.  Desktop
>>> icons also show.  Only thing missing is the proper background images.
>>>
>>> First time I had it happen, I right clicked on the desktop and clicked
>>> refresh and it came right up as it should.  Last couple times, I just
>>> wait and do what I intended to work on, and within about 30-60 seconds
>>> it finally gets the screen right.
>>>
>>> I don't know if this might have anything to do with it but I did get a
>>> new monitor a few weeks back, but Windows 11 loaded whatever drivers it
>>> needed and it does work just fine otherwise.
>>> Anybody seen this or have a clue why it might be doing this?
>>
>>    FWIW, I don't have your specific problem, but a similar one.
>>
>>    Mine is not with the Background (of the Desktop) and not with its
>> Slideshow setting, but with the Lock screen and its Windows spotlight
>> setting.
>>
>>    Sometimes, when I wake the system (laptop), the Lock screen is all
>> black (except for the time and date), instead of showing a Windows
>> spotlight picture. The next time, the problem is mostly gone, but
>> sometimes repeats for a couple of times.
>>
>>    So my 'problem' is similar to yours, just in a slightly different
>> environment.
>>
>>    AFAICT, it started some time ago. Last update cycle? Or the one
>> before?
> 
> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it worked for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will keep checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of the world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30 seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is going on.
> 

Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?

Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?

   Paul

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#17707

On 3/11/2025 7:17 PM, Paul wrote:
>> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it worked for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will keep checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of the world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30 seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is going on.
>>
> Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?
> 
> Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?

Good ideas.  Naturally today, woke it up and it all was working 
perfectly.  If it happens again, I'll check those two.  Thanks

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#17708

On Tue, 3/11/2025 8:50 PM, sticks wrote:
> On 3/11/2025 7:17 PM, Paul wrote:
>>> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it worked for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will keep checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of the world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30 seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is going on.
>>>
>> Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?
>>
>> Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?
> 
> Good ideas.  Naturally today, woke it up and it all was working perfectly.  If it happens again, I'll check those two.  Thanks
> 

You can check the Reliability in the Settings wheel, any time after the fact.

The Reliability Monitor is a summary of Event Viewer, only it avoids
a lot of material that would not be of interest.

   Paul

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#17709

On 3/11/2025 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 3/11/2025 8:50 PM, sticks wrote:
>> On 3/11/2025 7:17 PM, Paul wrote:
>>>> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it worked for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will keep checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of the world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30 seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is going on.
>>>>
>>> Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?
>>>
>>> Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?
>>
>> Good ideas.  Naturally today, woke it up and it all was working perfectly.  If it happens again, I'll check those two.  Thanks
>>
> 
> You can check the Reliability in the Settings wheel, any time after the fact.
> 
> The Reliability Monitor is a summary of Event Viewer, only it avoids
> a lot of material that would not be of interest.

Thanks.  I've used event view before, but I was unaware of reliability 
monitor.  I shall give it a look tomorrow.


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#17733

On 3/11/2025 9:17 PM, sticks wrote:
> On 3/11/2025 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:
>> On Tue, 3/11/2025 8:50 PM, sticks wrote:
>>> On 3/11/2025 7:17 PM, Paul wrote:
>>>>> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same 
>>>>> reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last 
>>>>> update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it worked 
>>>>> for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will keep 
>>>>> checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of the 
>>>>> world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30 seconds.  
>>>>> I'm just more interested in what is going on.
>>>>>
>>>> Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?
>>>>
>>>> Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?
>>>
>>> Good ideas.  Naturally today, woke it up and it all was working 
>>> perfectly.  If it happens again, I'll check those two.  Thanks
>>>
>>
>> You can check the Reliability in the Settings wheel, any time after 
>> the fact.
>>
>> The Reliability Monitor is a summary of Event Viewer, only it avoids
>> a lot of material that would not be of interest.
> 
> Thanks.  I've used event view before, but I was unaware of reliability 
> monitor.  I shall give it a look tomorrow.

Looked today and I like this reliability monitor.  It gives some 
interesting info on things you'd never know were struggling to get 
working properly.  Nothing on the small issue I mention, but I shall try 
and remember this exists.

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#17856

sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> On 3/11/2025 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:
> > On Tue, 3/11/2025 8:50 PM, sticks wrote:
> >> On 3/11/2025 7:17 PM, Paul wrote:
> >>>> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same
> >>>> reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last
> >>>> update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it
> >>>> worked for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will
> >>>> keep checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of
> >>>> the world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30
> >>>> seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is going on.
> >>>>
> >>> Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?
> >>>
> >>> Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?
> >>
> >> Good ideas.  Naturally today, woke it up and it all was working
> >> perfectly.  If it happens again, I'll check those two.  Thanks
> >>
> > 
> > You can check the Reliability in the Settings wheel, any time after
> > the fact.
> > 
> > The Reliability Monitor is a summary of Event Viewer, only it avoids
> > a lot of material that would not be of interest.
> 
> Thanks.  I've used event view before, but I was unaware of reliability 
> monitor.  I shall give it a look tomorrow.

  FYI, I got *my* problem - black Lock screen (only time and date) -
again just now, but nothing special in the Reliability Monitor for the
last few days (only on the 20th some HPSystemEventUtilityHost.OSD
('Stopped working') and McAfee Personal Security  (I only have the web
plugin) ('Stopped responding and was closed') stuff. Nothing in the 5
days before that.

  So still no clue as what is causing this (non-)'problem'.

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#17857

On 3/22/2025 9:13 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>> On 3/11/2025 8:07 PM, Paul wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3/11/2025 8:50 PM, sticks wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2025 7:17 PM, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> I agree, it sounds like something similar and might have the same
>>>>>> reason for occurring.  Mine began several weeks after the last
>>>>>> update, and before today's updates, so I would wonder why it
>>>>>> worked for 3 weeks and then decided to start doing this.  I will
>>>>>> keep checking for causes and solutions, but it isn't the end of
>>>>>> the world for me since it basically gets it right in about 30
>>>>>> seconds.  I'm just more interested in what is going on.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Check the Reliability Monitor for crashes/failures ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Check the EventVwr.msc (only if forced to) ?
>>>>
>>>> Good ideas.  Naturally today, woke it up and it all was working
>>>> perfectly.  If it happens again, I'll check those two.  Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can check the Reliability in the Settings wheel, any time after
>>> the fact.
>>>
>>> The Reliability Monitor is a summary of Event Viewer, only it avoids
>>> a lot of material that would not be of interest.
>>
>> Thanks.  I've used event view before, but I was unaware of reliability
>> monitor.  I shall give it a look tomorrow.
> 
>    FYI, I got *my* problem - black Lock screen (only time and date) -
> again just now, but nothing special in the Reliability Monitor for the
> last few days (only on the 20th some HPSystemEventUtilityHost.OSD
> ('Stopped working') and McAfee Personal Security  (I only have the web
> plugin) ('Stopped responding and was closed') stuff. Nothing in the 5
> days before that.
> 
>    So still no clue as what is causing this (non-)'problem'.

I never figured out what was causing mine either, but it hasn't done it 
for some time now.  Forgot all about it to be honest.  ;-)


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#17859

sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> On 3/22/2025 9:13 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[...]

> >    FYI, I got *my* problem - black Lock screen (only time and date) -
> > again just now, but nothing special in the Reliability Monitor for the
> > last few days (only on the 20th some HPSystemEventUtilityHost.OSD
> > ('Stopped working') and McAfee Personal Security  (I only have the web
> > plugin) ('Stopped responding and was closed') stuff. Nothing in the 5
> > days before that.
> > 
> >    So still no clue as what is causing this (non-)'problem'.
> 
> I never figured out what was causing mine either, but it hasn't done it 
> for some time now.  Forgot all about it to be honest.  ;-)

  For me it also didn't happen for quite some time. The last time was
quite some time before this thread, so I'm talking about weeks at least.

  Anyway, it's hard to overlook a mostly black screen, so that was an
easy trigger! :-)

  Take care.

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