Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > alt.comp.os.windows-11 > #16511 > unrolled thread

Turning off the Log-in Password

Back to article view | Back to alt.comp.os.windows-11

Contents

  Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-25 22:57 +1100
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-25 12:31 +0000
      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-25 14:35 +0100
      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:43 +0100
        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 22:57 +1100
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 05:06 -0800
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-28 23:39 +1100
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-28 13:48 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 22:26 +1100
                  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-01 11:40 +0000
                  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:10 +0000
                    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-01 17:44 +0000
      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 23:01 +1100
        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:54 +0000
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-26 17:55 +0100
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 18:19 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-26 18:33 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 19:46 +0000
                  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 20:11 +0000
                  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-26 23:04 +0100
                    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-27 11:16 +0000
                      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 13:15 -0500
                        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-27 18:49 +0000
                          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 14:33 -0500
                      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-29 00:04 +1100
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-28 14:33 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 18:59 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 11:06 +0000
                  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-29 06:24 -0500
                    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-29 12:35 +0100
                      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:17 +0000
                        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-29 14:38 +0100
                          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 15:29 +0000
                          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:59 -0500
                            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:59 +0100
                    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:12 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 22:58 +1100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:21 +0000
                  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:10 +1100
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:44 +0000
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-29 11:51 -0500
      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:20 +1100

Page 1 of 3  [1] 2 3  Next page →

#16511 — Turning off the Log-in Password

I'm just transitioning from Win7 on a fifteen year old Laptop (that has 
died) to a Win11 Desktop that I had conveniently, as it turns out, 
purchased about six months ago.

Frist problem that I seek your assistance with ..... when I boot up the 
system asks for a Password before it'll finish booting up.

How do I disable this??

Second problem .... On the old Laptop, as it started up, I could press 
'ESC' to get into the System. I haven't noticed this option with this 
Desktop.

Does this "Pressing 'ESC'" still work in Win11??
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#16514

On 2025-01-25 11:57, Daniel70 wrote:
>
> I'm just transitioning from Win7 on a fifteen year old Laptop (that has 
> died) to a Win11 Desktop that I had conveniently, as it turns out, 
> purchased about six months ago.
> 
> Frist problem that I seek your assistance with ..... when I boot up the 
> system asks for a Password before it'll finish booting up.
> 
> How do I disable this??
> 
> Second problem .... On the old Laptop, as it started up, I could press 
> 'ESC' to get into the System. I haven't noticed this option with this 
> Desktop.
> 
> Does this "Pressing 'ESC'" still work in Win11??

I think by 'System' you most probably mean 'BIOS'.  The key you press to 
get into it depends on the make and model of computer  -  for example 
for Dell PCs such as I have here it's usually <F2>, but I've also 
encountered <F10> & <DEL>.  In fact it may be displayed in a suitable 
message on the screen at the correct time to press it.  In the absence 
of such a message search online for something like "<make> <model> 
keystroke to enter system BIOS", substituting appropriately the make and 
model of your PC.

Once in the BIOS, you should be able to disable the password on boot up, 
as long as you know the current password, which, given that your old PC 
has died,  presumably you must do as you are apparently using the new 
one to post here; if not, you may have to clear all the BIOS settings to 
get rid of it, and would again have to search online quoting your make 
and model of machine to discover how to do that without being able to 
enter the BIOS; sometimes it was a jumper setting on the motherboard, 
which you had to remember to revert to normal after you'd done the job, 
but I haven't had this problem for a very long time, so new methods for 
achieving this may have come along since.

-- 

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: 
www.macfh.co.uk

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16516

On 25.01.2025 13:31, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-01-25 11:57, Daniel70 wrote:


>> Second problem .... On the old Laptop, as it started up, I could press 
>> 'ESC' to get into the System. I haven't noticed this option with this 
>> Desktop.
>> 
>> Does this "Pressing 'ESC'" still work in Win11??
> 
> I think by 'System' you most probably mean 'BIOS'.  The key you press to
> get into it depends on the make and model of computer  -  for example
> for Dell PCs such as I have here it's usually <F2>, but I've also
> encountered <F10> & <DEL>.  

It is maybe easier to boot Windows and then in the start menu hold down
the SHIFT key and click on "restart".



>> Frist problem that I seek your assistance with ..... when I boot up the 
>> system asks for a Password before it'll finish booting up.
>> 
>> How do I disable this??

> Once in the BIOS, you should be able to disable the password on boot up,

I suppose he wants to disable the Windows and not a BIOS password:

https://www.heise.de/tipps-tricks/Windows-10-Automatische-Anmeldung-so-geht-s-9657557.html

1. Verwenden Sie zunächst die Tastenkombination [Windows] + [R] und öffnen
    Sie dann über den Befehl regedit die Registry.

2.Navigieren Sie nun zu folgendem Pfad: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\PasswordLess\Device

3. Machen Sie hier einen Doppelklick auf "DevicePasswordLessBuildVersion" und geben
    Sie bei "Wert" anschließend "0" ein. Klicken Sie dann auf "OK".

4. Drücken Sie nun erneut auf die Tasten [Windows] + [R] und geben Sie danach
    netplwiz ein. Bestätigen Sie mit Enter.

5. Deaktivieren Sie im neuen Fenster das Kontrollkästchen "Benutzer müssen
    Benutzernamen und Kennwort eingeben" und klicken Sie dann auf "Übernehmen".

6. Geben Sie dann Ihre Anmeldedaten ein und bestätigen Sie mit "OK".

7. Nach der Passworteingabe starten Sie Ihren Computer neu.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16517

On 2025-01-25 13:31, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-01-25 11:57, Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>> I'm just transitioning from Win7 on a fifteen year old Laptop (that 
>> has died) to a Win11 Desktop that I had conveniently, as it turns out, 
>> purchased about six months ago.
>>
>> Frist problem that I seek your assistance with ..... when I boot up 
>> the system asks for a Password before it'll finish booting up.
>>
>> How do I disable this??
>>
>> Second problem .... On the old Laptop, as it started up, I could press 
>> 'ESC' to get into the System. I haven't noticed this option with this 
>> Desktop.
>>
>> Does this "Pressing 'ESC'" still work in Win11??
> 
> I think by 'System' you most probably mean 'BIOS'.  The key you press to 
> get into it depends on the make and model of computer  -  for example 
> for Dell PCs such as I have here it's usually <F2>, but I've also 
> encountered <F10> & <DEL>.  In fact it may be displayed in a suitable 
> message on the screen at the correct time to press it.  In the absence 
> of such a message search online for something like "<make> <model> 
> keystroke to enter system BIOS", substituting appropriately the make and 
> model of your PC.
> 
> Once in the BIOS, you should be able to disable the password on boot up, 
> as long as you know the current password, which, given that your old PC 
> has died,  presumably you must do as you are apparently using the new 
> one to post here; if not, you may have to clear all the BIOS settings to 
> get rid of it, and would again have to search online quoting your make 
> and model of machine to discover how to do that without being able to 
> enter the BIOS; sometimes it was a jumper setting on the motherboard, 
> which you had to remember to revert to normal after you'd done the job, 
> but I haven't had this problem for a very long time, so new methods for 
> achieving this may have come along since.


It might be a disk encryption password.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16542

On 26/01/2025 12:43 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-01-25 13:31, Java Jive wrote:
>> On 2025-01-25 11:57, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just transitioning from Win7 on a fifteen year old Laptop (that 
>>> has died) to a Win11 Desktop that I had conveniently, as it turns 
>>> out, purchased about six months ago.
>>>
>>> Frist problem that I seek your assistance with ..... when I boot up 
>>> the system asks for a Password before it'll finish booting up.
>>>
>>> How do I disable this??
>>>
>>> Second problem .... On the old Laptop, as it started up, I could 
>>> press 'ESC' to get into the System. I haven't noticed this option 
>>> with this Desktop.
>>>
>>> Does this "Pressing 'ESC'" still work in Win11??
>>
>> I think by 'System' you most probably mean 'BIOS'.  The key you press 
>> to get into it depends on the make and model of computer  -  for 
>> example for Dell PCs such as I have here it's usually <F2>, but I've 
>> also encountered <F10> & <DEL>.  In fact it may be displayed in a 
>> suitable message on the screen at the correct time to press it.  In 
>> the absence of such a message search online for something like "<make> 
>> <model> keystroke to enter system BIOS", substituting appropriately 
>> the make and model of your PC.
>>
>> Once in the BIOS, you should be able to disable the password on boot 
>> up, as long as you know the current password, which, given that your 
>> old PC has died,  presumably you must do as you are apparently using 
>> the new one to post here; if not, you may have to clear all the BIOS 
>> settings to get rid of it, and would again have to search online 
>> quoting your make and model of machine to discover how to do that 
>> without being able to enter the BIOS; sometimes it was a jumper 
>> setting on the motherboard, which you had to remember to revert to 
>> normal after you'd done the job, but I haven't had this problem for a 
>> very long time, so new methods for achieving this may have come along 
>> since.
> 
> It might be a disk encryption password.
> 
Oh!! No, Carlos, it had better not be!! ;-( Bloody Hell!
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16548

On 1/26/25 3:57 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> It might be a disk encryption password.
>>
> Oh!! No, Carlos, it had better not be!! ;-( Bloody Hell!

Would you attach a screen shot of it?

https://imgbb.com/

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16594

On 27/01/2025 12:06 am, T wrote:
> On 1/26/25 3:57 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> It might be a disk encryption password.
>>>
>> Oh!! No, Carlos, it had better not be!! ;-( Bloody Hell!
> 
> Would you attach a screen shot of it?
> 
> https://imgbb.com/
> 
I would if I could, T, but how do a capture a Screen shot in Win11??
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16598

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 27/01/2025 12:06 am, T wrote:
> > On 1/26/25 3:57 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> >>> It might be a disk encryption password.
> >>>
> >> Oh!! No, Carlos, it had better not be!! ;-( Bloody Hell!
> > 
> > Would you attach a screen shot of it?
> > 
> > https://imgbb.com/
> > 
> I would if I could, T, but how do a capture a Screen shot in Win11??

  Use the 'Snipping Tool'. On the second icon from the right, choose
'Full Screen' or 'Window'. Then click 'New'. Then do not do anything,
but only click in the Window or screen you want to capture. That will
make a screenshot. Now in the bigger window you will see the screenshot
you made. Now save it by clicking on the diskette icon, third from the
right.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16672

On 29/01/2025 12:48 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> On 27/01/2025 12:06 am, T wrote:
>>> On 1/26/25 3:57 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> It might be a disk encryption password.
>>>>> 
>>>> Oh!! No, Carlos, it had better not be!! ;-( Bloody Hell!
>>> 
>>> Would you attach a screen shot of it?
>>> 
>>> https://imgbb.com/
>>> 
>> I would if I could, T, but how do a capture a Screen shot in
>> Win11??
> 
> Use the 'Snipping Tool'. On the second icon from the right,

Frank, (remembering it's me with the throttled Internet connection and
still trying to connect via Mobile-phone) ..... which "second icon from
the right"??

On my Win-11 Task-bar, I've got (in the centre of screen) Windows Start
Button, a Search field, the Multiply Desktops button, File Explorer
button, McAfee button, my SeaMonkey Internet Suite button and a Notepad
icon.

Over on the RHS (starting from the right) , I've got the clock, the
Speaker, the Internet-access button, Language (English Australian),
Windows Security button then the 'More Icons' button which only shows
the McAfee button (again).

> choose 'Full Screen' or 'Window'. Then click 'New'. Then do not do
> anything, but only click in the Window or screen you want to capture.
> That will make a screenshot. Now in the bigger window you will see
> the screenshot you made. Now save it by clicking on the diskette
> icon, third from the right.
> 
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16673

Daniel70 wrote:

> which "second icon from the right"??

You're not alone in wondering the same.

I try to keep my Win11 looking quite "out of the box" and I don't think 
it has a screenshot icon anywhere.  I use Win+Shift+S as my keyboard 
shortcut to the snipping tool.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16680

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 29/01/2025 12:48 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> >> On 27/01/2025 12:06 am, T wrote:
> >>> On 1/26/25 3:57 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> >>>>> It might be a disk encryption password.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> Oh!! No, Carlos, it had better not be!! ;-( Bloody Hell!
> >>> 
> >>> Would you attach a screen shot of it?
> >>> 
> >>> https://imgbb.com/
> >>> 
> >> I would if I could, T, but how do a capture a Screen shot in
> >> Win11??
> > 
> > Use the 'Snipping Tool'. On the second icon from the right,
> 
> Frank, (remembering it's me with the throttled Internet connection and
> still trying to connect via Mobile-phone) ..... which "second icon from
> the right"??

  Sorry for the confusion. First start the 'Snipping Tool' (for example
by putting (part of) the name in the/a search box). Then *in* the
Snipping Tool, use the second icon from the right, etc..

  BTW, it's actually the third icon from the right if your also count
the right-most (three horizontal dots) one. Put in other words: There
are two icons with a down-arrow in them, use the left one. If you hover
over the icons, the icon I mean says "Snipping mode".

[...]

> > choose 'Full Screen' or 'Window'. Then click 'New'. Then do not do
> > anything, but only click in the Window or screen you want to capture.
> > That will make a screenshot. Now in the bigger window you will see
> > the screenshot you made. Now save it by clicking on the diskette
> > icon, third from the right.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16683

Frank Slootweg wrote:

> Sorry for the confusion. First start the 'Snipping Tool' (for
> example by putting (part of) the name in the/a search box).

Within WindowsSettings / Accessibility / Keyboard
you can turn on "Use PrtSc key for screen capture"

Depending on your keyboard layout that might be more reachable than 
win+shift+S, could be that you need Fn+PrtSc on some laptops?

> Then *in* the Snipping Tool, use the second icon from the right,
> etc..
OK, I understand now, I wish there was a way to make PrtSc launch the 
full GUI of the Snipping Tool, rather than just the small popup bar at 
the top of the screen ...

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16543

On 25/01/2025 11:31 pm, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-01-25 11:57, Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>> I'm just transitioning from Win7 on a fifteen year old Laptop (that 
>> has died) to a Win11 Desktop that I had conveniently, as it turns out, 
>> purchased about six months ago.
>>
>> Frist problem that I seek your assistance with ..... when I boot up 
>> the system asks for a Password before it'll finish booting up.
>>
>> How do I disable this??
>>
>> Second problem .... On the old Laptop, as it started up, I could press 
>> 'ESC' to get into the System. I haven't noticed this option with this 
>> Desktop.
>>
>> Does this "Pressing 'ESC'" still work in Win11??
> 
> I think by 'System' you most probably mean 'BIOS'.  The key you press to 
> get into it depends on the make and model of computer  -  for example 
> for Dell PCs such as I have here it's usually <F2>, but I've also 
> encountered <F10> & <DEL>.  In fact it may be displayed in a suitable 
> message on the screen at the correct time to press it.  In the absence 
> of such a message search online for something like "<make> <model> 
> keystroke to enter system BIOS", substituting appropriately the make and 
> model of your PC.
> 
> Once in the BIOS, you should be able to disable the password on boot up, 
> as long as you know the current password, which, given that your old PC 
> has died,  presumably you must do as you are apparently using the new 
> one to post here; if not, you may have to clear all the BIOS settings to 
> get rid of it, and would again have to search online quoting your make 
> and model of machine to discover how to do that without being able to 
> enter the BIOS; sometimes it was a jumper setting on the motherboard, 
> which you had to remember to revert to normal after you'd done the job, 
> but I haven't had this problem for a very long time, so new methods for 
> achieving this may have come along since.
> 
On my old HP (the laptop that died), when it started up there was a 
couple of seconds 'splash screen' which included the message "Press 
<ESC> to enter System".

Maybe I'll just press <ESC> and see what happens next time!!

TKS!
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16550

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
[...]

> On my old HP (the laptop that died), when it started up there was a 
> couple of seconds 'splash screen' which included the message "Press 
> <ESC> to enter System".
> 
> Maybe I'll just press <ESC> and see what happens next time!!

  As I said in my earlier response, you want/need to get into the
'hardware' *BIOS*. The OS, i.e. now Windows 11, does not have anything
to do with it.

  What *is* relevant, as I mentioned, is the brand/model or/and
motherboard of your new desktop computer.

  FYI, I also have HP laptops and indeed for *those*, the 'secret' key
is the 'esc' key, but for other brands, it can/will be different.

  So what *is* the brand/model or/and motherboard of the new desktop
computer? Don't keep us in suspense!

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16551

On 26.01.2025 15:54, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>    As I said in my earlier response, you want/need to get into the
> 'hardware' *BIOS*. The OS, i.e. now Windows 11, does not have anything
> to do with it.
> 
>    What *is* relevant, as I mentioned, is the brand/model or/and
> motherboard of your new desktop computer.

It doesn't matter because Windows can communicate with the
BIOS. Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
you will get the boot menu on next startup.


  

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16552

Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
> On 26.01.2025 15:54, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    As I said in my earlier response, you want/need to get into the
> > 'hardware' *BIOS*. The OS, i.e. now Windows 11, does not have anything
> > to do with it.
> > 
> >    What *is* relevant, as I mentioned, is the brand/model or/and
> > motherboard of your new desktop computer.
> 
> It doesn't matter because Windows can communicate with the
> BIOS. Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
> you will get the boot menu on next startup.

  Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
*BIOS*. So for example I can boot from another device, but I can not get
into the BIOS to reset the *BIOS* password,  which is what the OP
(Daniel70) wants/needs to do.

  If you think otherwise, please give specific instructions on how to
get from shift+Restart, via the UEFI software, into the BIOS.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16553

Frank Slootweg wrote:

> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>
>> Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
>> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
>> you will get the boot menu on next startup.
> 
>    Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
> *BIOS*. 

If you have a UEFI, that's instead of a BIOS.

>> So for example I can boot from another device, but I can not get
> into the BIOS to reset the *BIOS* password,  which is what the OP
> (Daniel70) wants/needs to do.

There's a path from that blue windows boot menu to enter UEFI

>    If you think otherwise, please give specific instructions on how to
> get from shift+Restart, via the UEFI software, into the BIOS.

Troubleshoot / Advanced / UEFI Settings

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16555

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> > Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
> >
> >> Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
> >> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
> >> you will get the boot menu on next startup.
> > 
> >    Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
> > *BIOS*. 
> 
> If you have a UEFI, that's instead of a BIOS.

  No, one has UEFI *and* BIOS. But you've put me/us on the right path.
Read on.

> >> So for example I can boot from another device, but I can not get
> > into the BIOS to reset the *BIOS* password,  which is what the OP
> > (Daniel70) wants/needs to do.
> 
> There's a path from that blue windows boot menu to enter UEFI
> 
> >    If you think otherwise, please give specific instructions on how to
> > get from shift+Restart, via the UEFI software, into the BIOS.
> 
> Troubleshoot / Advanced / UEFI Settings

  Thanks. From 'UEFI Settings' you can do *another* Restart and *that*
Restart brings me to a 'BIOS' (i.e. firmware, not software) menu, which
has (amongst others) a 'F10' choice to get into the BIOS settings, which
brings up a full screen *character* (not GUI) mode screen which says
'BIOS Setup Utility' and has tabs like Main, Security (! :-)),
Configuration, Boot, Options and Exit.

  So Herbert is correct that you can get into the BIOS without knowing
the secret key to press at bootup, but did not mention *how* to navigate
the UEFI menus to get at the right spot for the second restart.

  But to be fair, perhaps that's what Herbert meant with "on next
restart" (note: *next*). Perhaps there is another *simple* way to do a
restart whhen you're in the top UEFI menu.

  Anyway, hopefully Daniel70 can use this Windows->UEFI->BIOS detour
method to reset his BIOS password.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16556

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> > Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > 
> > > Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
> > >> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
> > >> you will get the boot menu on next startup.
> > > 
> > >    Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
> > > *BIOS*. 
> > 
> > If you have a UEFI, that's instead of a BIOS.
> 
>   No, one has UEFI *and* BIOS. But you've put me/us on the right path.
> Read on.

  Correction: We are both 'right'. Strictly speaking UEFI replaces the
BIOS, but UEFI implementations still have backward compatible BIOS
functions, for example for MBR/GPT booting ('CSM booting') and - as
shown below - the menus clear *say* "BIOS" ("BIOS settings", "BIOS Setup
Utility", etc.).

> > >> So for example I can boot from another device, but I can not get
> > > into the BIOS to reset the *BIOS* password,  which is what the OP
> > > (Daniel70) wants/needs to do.
> > 
> > There's a path from that blue windows boot menu to enter UEFI
> > 
> > >    If you think otherwise, please give specific instructions on how to
> > > get from shift+Restart, via the UEFI software, into the BIOS.
> > 
> > Troubleshoot / Advanced / UEFI Settings
> 
>   Thanks. From 'UEFI Settings' you can do *another* Restart and *that*
> Restart brings me to a 'BIOS' (i.e. firmware, not software) menu, which
> has (amongst others) a 'F10' choice to get into the BIOS settings, which
> brings up a full screen *character* (not GUI) mode screen which says
> 'BIOS Setup Utility' and has tabs like Main, Security (! :-)),
> Configuration, Boot, Options and Exit.
> 
>   So Herbert is correct that you can get into the BIOS without knowing
> the secret key to press at bootup, but did not mention *how* to navigate
> the UEFI menus to get at the right spot for the second restart.
> 
>   But to be fair, perhaps that's what Herbert meant with "on next
> restart" (note: *next*). Perhaps there is another *simple* way to do a
> restart whhen you're in the top UEFI menu.
> 
>   Anyway, hopefully Daniel70 can use this Windows->UEFI->BIOS detour
> method to reset his BIOS password.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#16557

On 2025-01-26 20:46, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>
>>> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
>>>> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
>>>> you will get the boot menu on next startup.
>>>
>>>     Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
>>> *BIOS*.
>>
>> If you have a UEFI, that's instead of a BIOS.
> 
>    No, one has UEFI *and* BIOS. But you've put me/us on the right path.
> Read on.

Nono. There is only UEFI. Forget the name "BIOS". Even if it looks like 
the BIOS, croaks like the BIOS, walks like the BIOS, it is no longer 
BIOS, it is part of the UEFI.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

Page 1 of 3  [1] 2 3  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | alt.comp.os.windows-11

csiph-web