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2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I.

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  2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 00:29 +0800
    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 07:16 +0100
      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 18:12 +0800
        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 23:32 +0100
          Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 13:41 +0800
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-15 20:57 +1000
              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 19:33 +0800
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 12:31 +0000
              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:24 +0800
                Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 14:11 +0000
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:16 +0800
                    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 07:06 +0000
                      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 21:49 +0800
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-06-17 17:08 +0000
                    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-17 19:03 -0400
                    [OT] Short attention span? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:39 +0800
                    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 02:20 -0400
                      Re: Attention span? <-- BANG!! BANG!! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:53 +0800
              [OT] Re: attention span and anti-curse protection "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:44 +0800
      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 11:28 +0000
        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-14 22:00 +1000
          Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 17:21 +0000
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-15 21:13 +1000
          Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 23:41 +0100
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 08:38 -0400
              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-16 09:04 +0000
                Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:29 +0200
                Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 10:35 -0400
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-16 20:53 +0000
                    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:51 +0200
                      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:41 +0800
                        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:47 +0200
                          Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:55 +0800
                            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:23 +0200
                              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines & 3d printing "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 21:50 +0800
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:54 +0800
        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 23:35 +0100
      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-14 08:20 -0400
        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 17:55 +0800
          Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:30 +0200
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:51 +0800
              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 14:28 +0000
                Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:57 +0800
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:27 +0200
                    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:05 +0800
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2026-06-17 10:08 -0400
              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-06-17 17:05 +0000
              Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:53 +0200
                Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:51 +0800
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:54 +0800
                  Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:48 +0200
                    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey... prayer answered? Wish fulfilled? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:56 +0800
    Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-14 14:37 -0700
      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2026-06-15 08:35 -0700
        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-06-15 16:42 +0000
        Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-15 21:30 +0200
          Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 16:35 -0400
            Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 22:54 +0200
      Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 17:56 +0800

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#32320

From	Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date	2026-06-14 22:00 +1000
Message-ID	<110m55p$3jpeu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32319

On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>
>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
> 
> *Surely* you've seen the film?!
> 
> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
> 
> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
> 
I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a 
used/Ex-Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.

I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since 
gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#32325

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2026-06-14 17:21 +0000
Message-ID	<110mntt$3pebp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32320

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
>> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>> 
>> *Surely* you've seen the film?!
>> 
>> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
>> 
>> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
>> 
> I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a 
> used/Ex-Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
> 
> I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since 
> gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!

I went to the cinema in 2018 to see the 50th anniversary 70mm print. Still
fabulous.

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#32343

From	Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date	2026-06-15 21:13 +1000
Message-ID	<110omo7$aarr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32325

On 15/06/2026 3:21 am, Chris wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
>>> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>>>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>>>
>>> *Surely* you've seen the film?!
>>>
>>> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
>>>
>>> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
>>>
>> I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a
>> used/Ex-Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
>>
>> I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since
>> gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
> 
> I went to the cinema in 2018 to see the 50th anniversary 70mm print. Still
> fabulous.
> 
Yes, I still keep an eye on the 'Upcoming Features' at a Cinema about 
80-90km away to see if it is being shown soon.

OH!! OH!! 28th June 2p.m. Doubling with Interstellar.

What WAS I doing that day?? ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#32331

From	"David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk>
Date	2026-06-14 23:41 +0100
Message-ID	<n98ovvFn4mtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32320

On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
>> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>
>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>>
>> *Surely* you've seen the film?!
>>
>> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
>>
>> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
>>
> I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex- 
> Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
> 
> I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since 
> gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!

Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)

I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!

Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).

-- 
Kind regards,
David

Follw-up set to ACW

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#32348

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date	2026-06-15 08:38 -0400
Message-ID	<110oroe$bprr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32331

On Sun, 6/14/2026 6:41 PM, David B. wrote:
> On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
>>> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>>>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>>>
>>> *Surely* you've seen the film?!
>>>
>>> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
>>>
>>> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
>>>
>> I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex- Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
>>
>> I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
> 
> Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)
> 
> I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
> if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!
> 
> Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).
> 

When you don't use things like your Panasonic Video player,
the transports jam up. The very first tape you put in it,
and punch play, should be a blank tape or a tape you can
afford to lose. It might not be working well enough, to
be spending money on conversion devices. The heat of keeping
them plugged in, that power supply that continues working
(even though the transport is not powered), that seems
to keep the materials dry in there.

To capture video, you might have used kit like this.
But it depends on what software is needed to work the
USB end of this, whether it will work on your particular
Apple machine.

   # Premium Composite RCA Scart RGB S-Video To USB Video Frame Grabber For PC

   https://www.ebay.com/itm/312451193099

My other machine, has a PCI Express TV tuner card, and it has both
analog and digital capture options. I have a VCR, but
the quality of the signal that comes from VCRs, does not
encourage spending time and effort getting that USB thing
working.

It's just easier to plug your Panasonic Video player,
into an old analog colour TV set you kept, and admire the
signal that way. If the picture seems a bit fuzzy, you
haven't spent any money on getting a digital fuzzy picture
on your Apple iMac. The idea is, to view the content one
time, without fussing too much over the process. As the
fussing cannot pay off (the Garbage-In-Garbage-Out problem
of video as a hobby).

   Paul

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#32373

From	David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk>
Date	2026-06-16 09:04 +0000
Message-ID	<6a311199$2$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#32348

On 15 Jun 2026 at 13:38:37 BST, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 6/14/2026 6:41 PM, David B. wrote:
>> On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
>>>> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>>>>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>>>> 
>>>> *Surely* you've seen the film?!
>>>> 
>>>> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
>>>> 
>>>> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
>>>> 
>>> I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex-
>>> Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
>>> 
>>> I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since gone.
>>> Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
>> 
>> Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)
>> 
>> I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
>> if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!
>> 
>> Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).
>> 
> 
> When you don't use things like your Panasonic Video player,
> the transports jam up. The very first tape you put in it,
> and punch play, should be a blank tape or a tape you can
> afford to lose. It might not be working well enough, to
> be spending money on conversion devices. The heat of keeping
> them plugged in, that power supply that continues working
> (even though the transport is not powered), that seems
> to keep the materials dry in there.
> 
> To capture video, you might have used kit like this.
> But it depends on what software is needed to work the
> USB end of this, whether it will work on your particular
> Apple machine.
> 
>    # Premium Composite RCA Scart RGB S-Video To USB Video Frame Grabber For PC
> 
>    https://www.ebay.com/itm/312451193099
> 
> My other machine, has a PCI Express TV tuner card, and it has both
> analog and digital capture options. I have a VCR, but
> the quality of the signal that comes from VCRs, does not
> encourage spending time and effort getting that USB thing
> working.
> 
> It's just easier to plug your Panasonic Video player,
> into an old analog colour TV set you kept, and admire the
> signal that way. If the picture seems a bit fuzzy, you
> haven't spent any money on getting a digital fuzzy picture
> on your Apple iMac. The idea is, to view the content one
> time, without fussing too much over the process. As the
> fussing cannot pay off (the Garbage-In-Garbage-Out problem
> of video as a hobby).
> 
>    Paul

Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view
VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!

I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an
elderly widow who was my friend.
It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)

-- 
David

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#32382

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date	2026-06-16 15:29 +0200
Message-ID	<n9d1d8Fas8oU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32373

On 2026-06-16 11:04, David B. wrote:
> On 15 Jun 2026 at 13:38:37 BST, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

...

> Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view
> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
> 
> I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an
> elderly widow who was my friend.
> It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)

I recently had a need to watch an actual tape, because I found a tape, 
copied from a video-camera by a friend, which is the only one that 
contains some shots of my parents.

So I think I first tried the video recorder with another tape. I had to 
find a TV set with a SCART connector, and found that I had one that just 
by chance I did not recycle.

The test tape played fine, so did the actual tape. Just some bad region 
with sync difficulty.

I then located a service that convert tapes to digital file: perfect. 
Their machine managed to extract video from the part that seemed corrupted.

Now I can ditch my tape collection and two machines.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32391

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date	2026-06-16 10:35 -0400
Message-ID	<110rmvb$16blo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32373

On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:

> 
> Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view
> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
> 
> I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an
> elderly widow who was my friend.
> It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
> 

You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?

I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
We're talking big screen luxury.

It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
a cleaning.

   Paul

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#32406

From	pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date	2026-06-16 20:53 +0000
Message-ID	<110sd57$1djk4$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32391

On 2026-06-16, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:
>
>> 
>> Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view
>> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
>> 
>> I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an
>> elderly widow who was my friend.
>> It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
>> 
>
> You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?
>
> I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
> We're talking big screen luxury.
>
> It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
> a cleaning.
>
>    Paul
>
Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so forth
is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require replacement.



-- 
pothead

"Often imitated, never duplicated."

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

-- Winston Churchill

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#32446

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date	2026-06-18 01:51 +0200
Message-ID	<n9gq7pFugfkU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32406

On 2026-06-16 22:53, pothead wrote:
> On 2026-06-16, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view
>>> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
>>>
>>> I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an
>>> elderly widow who was my friend.
>>> It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
>>>
>>
>> You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?
>>
>> I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
>> We're talking big screen luxury.
>>
>> It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
>> a cleaning.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
> Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so forth
> is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require replacement.

True...

And by the time that happens, the builder is out of business and you 
can't find the spares.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32450

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2026-06-18 11:41 +0800
Message-ID	<110vpct$2b36d$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#32446

On 6/18/2026 7:51 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>> Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so forth
>> is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require replacement.
> 
> True...
> 
> And by the time that happens, the builder is out of business and you
> can't find the spares.


Does matetr. That sucessfully had created a lot of plastic junk that's 
very hard to be recycled into harmless elements. :)

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#32462

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date	2026-06-18 08:47 +0200
Message-ID	<n9hiknF3t7sU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32450

On 2026-06-18 05:41, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/18/2026 7:51 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>> Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so 
>>> forth
>>> is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require 
>>> replacement.
>>
>> True...
>>
>> And by the time that happens, the builder is out of business and you
>> can't find the spares.
> 
> 
> Does matetr. That sucessfully had created a lot of plastic junk that's 
> very hard to be recycled into harmless elements. :)

I'm thinking of my father record player. It used tubes. Made to last. 
Wooden box. Alas, the rubber mat on the plate changed to goo while kept 
in storage. Some rubber wheel inside near the motor developed a large dent.

Useless machine after that. But it worked for 40 or 50 years.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32472 — Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2026-06-18 17:55 +0800
Subject	Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines
Message-ID	<1110fa9$2gmlp$5@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#32462

On 6/18/2026 2:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of my father record player. It used tubes. Made to last.
> Wooden box. Alas, the rubber mat on the plate changed to goo while kept
> in storage. Some rubber wheel inside near the motor developed a large dent.
> 
> Useless machine after that. But it worked for 40 or 50 years.
You possibly can keep it working if you know how to make parts, 
including the use of 3D printers.

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#32477 — Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date	2026-06-18 14:23 +0200
Subject	Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines
Message-ID	<n9i69nF6v2gU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32472

On 2026-06-18 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/18/2026 2:47 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of my father record player. It used tubes. Made to last.
>> Wooden box. Alas, the rubber mat on the plate changed to goo while kept
>> in storage. Some rubber wheel inside near the motor developed a large 
>> dent.
>>
>> Useless machine after that. But it worked for 40 or 50 years.
> You possibly can keep it working if you know how to make parts, 
> including the use of 3D printers.
> 

Rubber parts of the needed properties? Still need the factory drawings.

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        Carlos E.R.
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#32480 — Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines & 3d printing

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2026-06-18 21:50 +0800
Subject	Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines & 3d printing
Message-ID	<1110t3m$2kv4q$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#32477

On 6/18/2026 8:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> 
> Rubber parts of the needed properties? Still need the factory drawings.
> 

You can't 3d-print rubber? I dunno... no money for a 3d printer. :)

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#32418

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2026-06-17 11:54 +0800
Message-ID	<110t5pn$1jgck$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#32391

On 6/16/2026 10:35 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
> I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
> We're talking big screen luxury.
> 
> It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
> a cleaning.

Well, you can LISTEN to the movie I mentioned while doing the dirty job. :)


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#32330

From	"David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk>
Date	2026-06-14 23:35 +0100
Message-ID	<n98oltFn34lU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32319

On 14/06/2026 12:28, Chris wrote:
> David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>
>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
> 
> *Surely* you've seen the film?!

The film was released just a few months before my first son was born. I
was learning to fly fast jets at the time!

> If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
> 
> You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.

Thank you, Chris.

-- 
David

Follow-up set to ACW

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#32321

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date	2026-06-14 08:20 -0400
Message-ID	<110m6a8$3k3qv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#32310

On Sun, 6/14/2026 2:16 AM, David B. wrote:
> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
> What happened AFTER that?!!!
> 

Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
suspended animation.

   http://miscel.wikidot.com/2001-transcript

In the last two sections, are some dialogs.

The first one, Dave is trying to get back into the
ship and HAL will not let him. Dave has to do a ship-to-ship
transfer, and under vacuum, he shoots from one ship (pod) to the
other at considerable velocity. Then he has to re-pressurize
the place he entered.

The last part of the transcript, is the scene where HAL is
being shut down by having some memory-modules unplugged.
As HAL loses his mind, he sings a song he was taught at the
factory. Then, the message the crew was supposed to get
when they arrived at Jupiter, starts to play (because HAL
is no longer there to stop it from playing).

The scenes where Dave is transported by the monolith, there's
no dialog, so there can't be a transcript. Eventually, Dave
returns to earth, as a super-being.

   https://exclaim.ca/film/article/did_stanley_kubrick_himself_finally_just_explain_the_ending_to_2001_a_space_odyssey

A later movie, plays with the idea. I didn't see that one,
not on TV either.

The Youtube selections, are just parts of the 2001 movie,
teasers of a sort, to sell DVD collections or whatever. I don't
think there are enough sections, to make the full movie.

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey

      "The film was announced in 1965 as a "Cinerama"[64] film and was photographed in Super Panavision 70
       (which uses a 65 mm negative combined with spherical lenses to create an aspect ratio of 2.20:1). It
       would eventually be released in a "roadshow" 70 mm version and a later general release 35 mm version.[65][66]
       Colour processing and 35 mm release prints were done using Technicolor's dye transfer process. The 70 mm
       prints were made by MGM Laboratories, Inc. on Metrocolor. The production was $4.5 million over the initial
       $6 million budget and 16 months behind schedule.[67]"

It's probably best to see it in a facility that can offer 2.20:1 viewing.
The 35 mm version is likely to toss out some of the detail.

   Paul

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#32374

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2026-06-16 17:55 +0800
Message-ID	<110r6if$114sn$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#32321

On 6/14/2026 8:20 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
> Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
> sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
> suspended animation.....


Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of 
patience.  :)

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#32383

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date	2026-06-16 15:30 +0200
Message-ID	<n9d1fgFas8oU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#32374

On 2026-06-16 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/14/2026 8:20 PM, Paul wrote:
>>
>> Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
>> sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
>> suspended animation.....
> 
> 
> Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of 
> patience.  :)
> 

It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi 
movie in history.

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        Carlos E.R.
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