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2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 00:29 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 07:16 +0100
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 18:12 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 23:32 +0100
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 13:41 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-15 20:57 +1000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 19:33 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 12:31 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:24 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 14:11 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:16 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 07:06 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 21:49 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-06-17 17:08 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-17 19:03 -0400
[OT] Short attention span? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:39 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 02:20 -0400
Re: Attention span? <-- BANG!! BANG!! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:53 +0800
[OT] Re: attention span and anti-curse protection "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 22:44 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 11:28 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-14 22:00 +1000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 17:21 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-15 21:13 +1000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 23:41 +0100
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 08:38 -0400
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-16 09:04 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:29 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 10:35 -0400
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-16 20:53 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:51 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:41 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:47 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:55 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:23 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey ... old machines & 3d printing "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 21:50 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:54 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-06-14 23:35 +0100
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-14 08:20 -0400
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 17:55 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:30 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:51 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 14:28 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:57 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:27 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 11:05 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2026-06-17 10:08 -0400
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-06-17 17:05 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:53 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:51 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 11:54 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-18 08:48 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey... prayer answered? Wish fulfilled? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 17:56 +0800
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-14 14:37 -0700
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2026-06-15 08:35 -0700
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-06-15 16:42 +0000
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-15 21:30 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 16:35 -0400
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 22:54 +0200
Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 17:56 +0800
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 00:29 +0800 |
| Subject | 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I. |
| Message-ID | <110k0h2$327l4$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
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| From | "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 07:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n96v9vFeb47U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32294 |
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > > HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE> What happened AFTER that?!!! -- Another Dave ๐ (alt.computer.workshop added)
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 18:12 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110luq2$3hvf9$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32310 |
On 6/14/2026 2:16 PM, David B. wrote:
> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>
> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>
You can find the full movie in YouTube!? :)
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@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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| From | "David B." <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 23:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n98ogiFn2dgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32318 |
On 14/06/2026 11:12, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/14/2026 2:16 PM, David B. wrote: >> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> >>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE> >> >> What happened AFTER that?!!! >> > > You can find the full movie in YouTube!? :) Thank you. -- Kind regards, David FU set to ACW
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 13:41 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110o3aj$4mn6$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32329 |
On 6/15/2026 6:32 AM, David B. wrote:
> On 14/06/2026 11:12, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 6/14/2026 2:16 PM, David B. wrote:
>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>
>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
>>>
>>> What happened AFTER that?!!!
>>>
>>
>> You can find the full movie in YouTube!? :)
> Thank you.
>
Reminder:
it's a boring music video (year 1968?) using classical music. Target
audience might be kids. Prepare to hit the fast-forward button! ๐
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@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 20:57 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <110olro$a1tu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32334 |
On 15/06/2026 3:41 pm, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 6/15/2026 6:32 AM, David B. wrote: >> On 14/06/2026 11:12, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> On 6/14/2026 2:16 PM, David B. wrote: >>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>>>> >>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE> >>>> >>>> What happened AFTER that?!!! >>> >>> You can find the full movie in YouTube!? :) >> Thank you. > > Reminder: > > it's a boring music video (year 1968?) using classical music. Target > audience might be kids. Prepare to hit the fast-forward button! ๐ > "music video"?? You have got to be kidding!! Beautiful 'classical music' .. sure, .... but watching those rockets and orbital platforms doing their dance and the Apes gaining knowledge .... and the colourful dive through Jupiter's clouds .... how could you consider those boring!! ;-) -- Daniel70
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 19:33 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110onu0$aknt$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32342 |
On 6/15/2026 6:57 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 15/06/2026 3:41 pm, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> Reminder:
>>
>> it's a boring music video (year 1968?) using classical music. Target
>> audience might be kids. Prepare to hit the fast-forward button! ๐
>> "music video"?? You have got to be kidding!! Beautiful 'classical music'
>
> .. sure, .... but watching those rockets and orbital platforms doing
> their dance and the Apes gaining knowledge .... and the colourful dive
> through Jupiter's clouds .... how could you consider those boring!! ;-)
That's why I said "Target audience might be kids". For new-born babies
and as they grow up, everything is new, interesting and exciting.
Old persons should have seen all these "shit" and "crap". :)
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@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 12:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <110orb1$bmct$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32334 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/15/2026 6:32 AM, David B. wrote: >> On 14/06/2026 11:12, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> On 6/14/2026 2:16 PM, David B. wrote: >>>> On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >>>>> >>>>> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE> >>>> >>>> What happened AFTER that?!!! >>>> >>> >>> You can find the full movie in YouTube!? :) >> Thank you. >> > > Reminder: > > it's a boring music video (year 1968?) using classical music. Target > audience might be kids. Prepare to hit the fast-forward button! ๐ > The attention span of the young today smdh! lol. It's the parts without any sound whatsoever that are amongst the most significant parts of the film. The fact the film still resonates culturally nearly 60 years later highlights how impactful it is.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 22:24 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110p1uu$dloh$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32347 |
On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> The attention span of the young today smdh! lol.
This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN
without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big big
big one!!
What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
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@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 14:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <110rliv$15tak$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32352 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote: >> >> The attention span of the young today smdh! lol. > > This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN > without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big big > big one!! > > What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse? It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring music video". No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 22:16 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110rls7$15rvl$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32386 |
On 6/16/2026 10:11 PM, Chris wrote:
> Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
>
> It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring
> music video".
>
> No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore.
If you have seen the movie before, is it still called an attention span
problem? :)
If something is wasting your time and you leave, is it attention span
problem?
Feeling boring or repetitive has nothing to do with attention span.
Anyway, that movie's pace was too slow by modern standard.
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@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-17 07:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <110th1d$1m7pf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32387 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/16/2026 10:11 PM, Chris wrote: >> Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse? >> >> It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring >> music video". >> >> No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore. > > If you have seen the movie before, is it still called an attention span > problem? :) > > If something is wasting your time and you leave, is it attention span > problem? > > Feeling boring or repetitive has nothing to do with attention span. Sure it is. Calling an undisputed classic of a film which uses pace and tone explicitly to explore the themes in the story "boring music video" does reflect a lack of willingness to engage with it properly. However, I wouldn't recommend you watch it again as not all films are for all people. > Anyway, that movie's pace was too slow by modern standard. I find many modern film/TV titles extremely boring and satisfying because they are far too superficial and treat the audience like idiots by being very unsubtle with plot points. Telling a really good story, IMHO, requires slow and fast, room for (mis)interpretation and ambiguity, and multiple threads working in parallel and probably not in sync. Anyway, the world is a great place because we're all different and have our own views. This has gone a bit too far OT.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-17 21:49 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <110u8kq$1t3sv$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32424 |
On 6/17/2026 3:06 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> However, I wouldn't recommend you watch it again as not all films are for
> all people.
No, I will give it a 2nd chance when I have time and mood.
I still think it's a boring music video. It should not have lasted 2
hours. The whole plot isn't as twisted as other blockbusters.
>
> Telling a really good story, IMHO, requires slow and fast, room for
> (mis)interpretation and ambiguity, and multiple threads working in parallel
> and probably not in sync.
Maybe I watched and memorized too many stories, far more than what you
think. :)
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@~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
/ v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
/( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-17 17:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a32d482$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #32386 |
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 14:11:43 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote: >>> >>> The attention span of the young today smdh! lol. >> >> This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN >> without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big >> big big one!! >> >> What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse? > > It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring > music video". > > No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore. I remember reading a novel about the future, where the only stories people read were just one or two pages long. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "For God so loved the world that he made up his mind to damn the large majority of the human race." -- Robert G. Ingersoll
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-17 19:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110v93v$27enq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32441 |
On Wed, 6/17/2026 1:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 14:11:43 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote: >>>> >>>> The attention span of the young today smdh! lol. >>> >>> This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN >>> without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big >>> big big one!! >>> >>> What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse? >> >> It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring >> music video". >> >> No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore. > > I remember reading a novel about the future, where the only stories people > read were just one or two pages long. > Space is big, and travel times are long. The movie captures that. You have time to think about some of the thematic inconsistencies. As for the notion of attention span, if you really had a limited attention span and you worked for a living, chances are evolution would weed you out if you weren't paying attention. Imagine for example, you're a linesman for the power company. If you really had a problem paying attention, you'd be blown right off your ladder :-) Problem solved. As for degraded problem solving ability, yes, that's going to be more and more of a problem in future. And that's been evident for the last 15-20 years. It's showing up right now, in our ability to (re)design road surfaces in town here. And no, an AI won't be able to figure it out, because none of it makes sense :-) I can tell the construction workers are enjoying themselves, as all they have to do is follow the blueprints and make incomprehensible things. They don't have to worry about whether it all works or not. Paul
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 11:39 +0800 |
| Subject | [OT] Short attention span? |
| Message-ID | <110vp97$2b36d$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32441 |
On 6/18/2026 1:08 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
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> I remember reading a novel about the future, where the only stories people
> read were just one or two pages long.
>
You can explain taht phenomena.
Because the people in that book's world had long memory. They were not
new-born idiots that needed to learn about the world again.
Does the President of United States of America need to read/hear all the
books to issue an executive order? No. :)
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| From | "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 02:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <11102n6$2chk1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32441 |
On 06/17/2026 1:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 14:11:43 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >> No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore. > > I remember reading a novel about the future, where the only stories people > read were just one or two pages long. > Possibly Fahrenheit 451 (future society) Short attention span Condensing of books and stories Absorbing information without any deep thinking Brave New World literature reduced to bite size snippets and/or entertainment -- ...wยกรฑยงยฑยครฑ
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 17:53 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: Attention span? <-- BANG!! BANG!! |
| Message-ID | <1110f7b$2gmlp$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32458 |
On 6/18/2026 2:20 PM, ....winston wrote:
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> Possibly Fahrenheit 451 (future society)
> Short attention span
> Condensing of books and stories
> Absorbing information without any deep thinking
>
> Brave New World
> literature reduced to bite size snippets and/or entertainment
Why should one attend to the person who's trying to curse? BANG!!
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 22:44 +0800 |
| Subject | [OT] Re: attention span and anti-curse protection |
| Message-ID | <110p34a$e0ua$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32347 |
On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote:
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> The attention span of the young today smdh! lol.
>
A teacher try to mind control someone using a curse on behalf of teaching.
Students snapped out of the mind control mid-way.
IS this short attention span? Or is it automatic protection against
teacher's curse? :)
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 11:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <110m396$3j7jk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32310 |
David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >> >> HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE> > What happened AFTER that?!!! *Surely* you've seen the film?! If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic. You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
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