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| Started by | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2025-04-27 11:58 +0200 |
| Last post | 2025-05-16 14:46 +0200 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 217 — 17 participants |
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Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 11:58 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 05:50 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-27 07:11 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 13:33 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 19:31 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 13:30 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-27 09:32 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 10:19 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-27 11:25 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 19:12 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 17:53 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 11:53 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-27 14:42 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:12 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 21:20 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:26 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 07:58 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:31 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 11:24 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 18:59 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-27 13:03 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 19:19 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 21:54 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:37 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-28 13:35 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:33 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 08:37 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 16:09 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 09:53 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:40 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-01 13:05 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:44 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 16:30 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 18:53 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 17:31 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:42 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 08:06 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:35 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 09:35 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:40 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-29 04:12 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:46 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-27 18:46 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 13:02 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-28 14:15 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:39 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:31 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:29 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-29 08:52 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:47 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-01 12:19 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 15:05 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-01 16:59 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:47 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:06 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:00 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:48 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-28 12:26 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:47 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 09:39 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:59 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-28 03:46 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:43 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-28 16:52 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:51 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:07 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-29 17:25 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:50 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:04 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 16:35 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:01 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-01 19:00 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:48 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 10:59 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 18:56 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 11:48 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 09:19 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 08:43 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 16:11 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 16:34 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 13:44 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 15:35 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 10:08 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-29 04:24 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:08 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:52 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:49 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 15:44 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:22 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:25 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:24 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-01 13:05 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:50 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 06:27 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 14:22 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 08:31 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:01 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:21 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-01 17:38 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:59 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 14:42 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 14:52 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:06 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 18:41 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 20:15 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 21:49 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 12:00 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-05 11:40 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 10:57 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-07 10:14 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:11 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-07 13:22 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-07 13:45 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:28 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-07 17:47 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 21:34 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:23 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-07 14:59 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 18:36 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-07 15:00 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 18:38 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-08 15:13 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 13:50 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 08:41 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-09 13:50 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 18:30 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 14:01 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:03 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Simon Jenkins <user@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 00:13 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 17:07 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-09 19:00 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:07 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-12 15:02 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 20:55 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-12 16:43 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:42 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-13 10:24 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:43 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 18:37 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 14:09 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:15 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-05-09 20:26 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:20 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-12 15:08 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 20:57 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-13 11:01 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-13 15:10 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:40 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-14 22:16 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:52 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-05-17 21:58 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-17 17:32 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:36 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-15 15:39 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:53 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-05-20 05:52 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-05-20 07:31 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-20 10:49 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-07 09:56 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 18:40 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-07 16:58 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 13:56 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 15:01 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:12 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-02 23:12 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 12:01 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 11:13 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 13:36 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-05 12:59 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 10:59 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-05 14:14 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 15:10 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:01 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:00 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 15:08 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:02 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-05 11:44 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 13:38 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 11:49 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:03 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 13:16 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:34 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 18:42 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 02:55 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 22:23 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 11:17 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 06:05 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 13:28 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 13:46 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 08:46 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 14:58 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 10:30 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 18:14 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 10:34 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 18:37 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:15 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-03 01:34 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 12:10 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-05 12:11 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 13:42 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 22:25 -0500
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 11:24 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 12:02 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-05 14:42 +0000
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:06 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:41 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-07 17:41 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 14:14 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 15:05 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:33 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:25 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-12 14:29 +0100
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 20:59 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-12 16:51 -0400
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:44 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:42 +0200
Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:46 +0200
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 04:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10wmh4d4mquk4.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #18790 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > VanguardLH wrote: > >> Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: >> >>> Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> >>>> AFAICT, you didn't specifically say if *other* (than your) pc's can >>>> access her pc, but I assume they can't, otherwise it would be incorrect >>>> for you to say "so this is a problem with her laptop". >>> >>> No, on other pc's her laptop is not accessible as well. >> >> If you have not defined any rules or changed away from defaults in to >> whatever access point to which she connects via wifi, see if resetting >> that access point solves the problem. > > Does not make any sense. She has internet, and if I use my laptop with > W11 Pro, it also has contact with our AP, and my laptop is accessible in > the LAN. Internet access, and connecting to the internal web server in the AP, does not eliminate blocks between intranet hosts. In my setup, all the hosts in my home for everyone could connect to the Internet. They could all connect to the web server inside the cable modem. However, none of the other intranet hosts were allowed to connect to my host. I deliberately isolated my host from all other intranet hosts. Did you modify the settings in the cable modem, so they are not the defaults, which you would lose on a reset of the modem? If you made no custom settings, there is nothing to lose with a reset except perhaps some glitch in the config that other intranet hosts from connecting to her computer. A reset should take less than 5 minutes. >> In your opener post, you said you had to enable Netbios over TCP. How >> did you do that? Was it: >> >> - Run: ncpa.cpl. >> - Right-click on the network adapter, and select Properties. >> - Select IPv4 protocol. Click Properties. >> - General tab. Click Advanced. >> - WINS tab. >> - Network tab. >> - Advanced button. > > I can't remember. I followed instructions in one of the answers in this > news group. But you could return there to check how NetBIOS is configured for when it gets used regarding static versus dynamic addressing. > All pc's en laptops get their fixed IP address from the router, defined > by their MAC address. Same subnet mask for all? On each host, you can run ipconfig to see the subnet mask.
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 11:46 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7gu8gF68jtU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18796 |
On 29/04/2025 11:12, VanguardLH wrote: > Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > >> VanguardLH wrote: >> >>> Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: >>> >>>> Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>> >>>>> AFAICT, you didn't specifically say if *other* (than your) pc's can >>>>> access her pc, but I assume they can't, otherwise it would be incorrect >>>>> for you to say "so this is a problem with her laptop". >>>> >>>> No, on other pc's her laptop is not accessible as well. >>> >>> If you have not defined any rules or changed away from defaults in to >>> whatever access point to which she connects via wifi, see if resetting >>> that access point solves the problem. >> >> Does not make any sense. She has internet, and if I use my laptop with >> W11 Pro, it also has contact with our AP, and my laptop is accessible in >> the LAN. > > Internet access, and connecting to the internal web server in the AP, > does not eliminate blocks between intranet hosts. In my setup, all the > hosts in my home for everyone could connect to the Internet. Here as well. > They could > all connect to the web server inside the cable modem. Here as well. > However, none of > the other intranet hosts were allowed to connect to my host. I > deliberately isolated my host from all other intranet hosts. Not here. > > Did you modify the settings in the cable modem, so they are not the > defaults, which you would lose on a reset of the modem? If you made no > custom settings, there is nothing to lose with a reset except perhaps > some glitch in the config that other intranet hosts from connecting to > her computer. A reset should take less than 5 minutes. I have custom settings, but a reset won't harm them. > >>> In your opener post, you said you had to enable Netbios over TCP. How >>> did you do that? Was it: >>> >>> - Run: ncpa.cpl. >>> - Right-click on the network adapter, and select Properties. >>> - Select IPv4 protocol. Click Properties. >>> - General tab. Click Advanced. >>> - WINS tab. >>> - Network tab. >>> - Advanced button. >> >> I can't remember. I followed instructions in one of the answers in this >> news group. > > But you could return there to check how NetBIOS is configured for when > it gets used regarding static versus dynamic addressing. There is Netbios over TCP. > >> All pc's en laptops get their fixed IP address from the router, defined >> by their MAC address. > > Same subnet mask for all? Yes. > > On each host, you can run ipconfig to see the subnet mask. Fokke
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-04-27 18:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vulqgs$1ap6t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18727 |
Fokke Nauta wrote: > Hi all, > > My wife has a W11 Pro laptop. It is visable in the network but I can't > open it. Her network detection is on, just as file and printer sharing. > It is on a private network. > When I try to open it from my pc, I get the message "Windows cannot > access" the name of her laptop. Error code 0x80070035. > This code says how to Enable NetBIOS over TCP / IP. I did and restarted > the laptop. > I still can't open it from my pc. All other pc's I can open, so this is > a problem with her laptop. > What else can I do to open it and access the folders and files? > Thanks in advance for your help. I've come to this rather late, but you might work through this checklist: 1. Do all the computers and other devices on the LAN get their IP addresses by DHCP from a router? If not, why not? 2. All Windows machines should have the same "Workgroup" name. 3. Ensure all 3rd party antivirus has any firewall disabled - at least until you get the network to function. 4. The windows network type should be "Work", not "Private" or "Public". You may be able to get "Private" to work later, once you have everything set up correctly. Note: "Work" is only available on "Pro" and higher versions of windows. For home versions you must choose "Private". 5. All windows machines should - at the very least - have the same username and password for their "Administrator" account. Ideally they should have a separate "User" account with limited permissions for everyday use. The folder(s) that you wish to have available over the LAN should have their sharing permissions set correctly. 6. Test initially using ping from the command line. Ping by IP address until you can confirm that name resolution is working correctly. Windows often fails to get this right so you may find it easier to stick with IP addresses. If your router supports "binding" then use it. 7. Windows explorer should be able to find your networked devices in its "Network" setting. You may be prompted to enable this feature. Initially look for shares by IP address, thus: \\<IP>\sharename - you should be prompted for the username and password to give access to that share. You may be prompted to save these credentials. Don't try to get device letter mapping working until you can see the network share easily and repeatably. 8. There are different versions of the SMB protocol that Windows uses for file sharing. Make sure you have the same (most modern) version on all your machines. 9. Once you think you have it working, shut down everything. Then restart the router first, and other computers once the router has its internet connection properly established. Confirm that the networking behaves properly. Be aware that if a machine "sleeps" its networking may not behave properly when it is "woken up". -- Graham J
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 13:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m795h9FskpsU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18746 |
On 27/04/2025 19:46, Graham J wrote: > Fokke Nauta wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> My wife has a W11 Pro laptop. It is visable in the network but I can't >> open it. Her network detection is on, just as file and printer >> sharing. It is on a private network. >> When I try to open it from my pc, I get the message "Windows cannot >> access" the name of her laptop. Error code 0x80070035. >> This code says how to Enable NetBIOS over TCP / IP. I did and >> restarted the laptop. >> I still can't open it from my pc. All other pc's I can open, so this >> is a problem with her laptop. >> What else can I do to open it and access the folders and files? >> Thanks in advance for your help. > > I've come to this rather late, but you might work through this checklist: > > 1. Do all the computers and other devices on the LAN get their IP > addresses by DHCP from a router? If not, why not? Yes, they all get a fixed IP address from the router, depending on their ID. > 2. All Windows machines should have the same "Workgroup" name. Yes, they have. > 3. Ensure all 3rd party antivirus has any firewall disabled - at least > until you get the network to function. I can't find a way how to enable the firewall of Bitdefender. > 4. The windows network type should be "Work", not "Private" or > "Public". You may be able to get "Private" to work later, once you have > everything set up correctly. Note: "Work" is only available on "Pro" > and higher versions of windows. For home versions you must choose > "Private". It is pro. But all pc's and laptops are connected with Private. Where inbound connections are allowed. > 5. All windows machines should - at the very least - have the same > username and password for their "Administrator" account. Ideally they > should have a separate "User" account with limited permissions for > everyday use. The folder(s) that you wish to have available over the > LAN should have their sharing permissions set correctly. No, they have not. Each pc or laptop has it's own username and password. > 6. Test initially using ping from the command line. Ping by IP address > until you can confirm that name resolution is working correctly. Windows > often fails to get this right so you may find it easier to stick with IP > addresses. If your router supports "binding" then use it.ipconfig This works well. > 7. Windows explorer should be able to find your networked devices in > its "Network" setting. You may be prompted to enable this feature. > Initially look for shares by IP address, thus: \\<IP>\sharename - you > should be prompted for the username and password to give access to that > share. You may be prompted to save these credentials. Don't try to get > device letter mapping working until you can see the network share easily > and repeatably. This doesn't work. Nothing appears. > 8. There are different versions of the SMB protocol that Windows uses > for file sharing. Make sure you have the same (most modern) version on > all your machines. It's the same version as on another laptop with the same OS. And that is accessable. > 9. Once you think you have it working, shut down everything. Then > restart the router first, and other computers once the router has its > internet connection properly established. Confirm that the networking > behaves properly. Be aware that if a machine "sleeps" its networking > may not behave properly when it is "woken up". I see no reason to restart the router. It works well. Fokke
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 14:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vunv1b$3c9pi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18758 |
Fokke Nauta wrote: [snip] . >> >> I've come to this rather late, but you might work through this checklist: >> >> 1. Do all the computers and other devices on the LAN get their IP >> addresses by DHCP from a router? If not, why not? > > Yes, they all get a fixed IP address from the router, depending on their > ID. Do you mean by using eh "bind" facility on the router, to assign an IP address to the MAC address of each computer? It might not be called "bind" on your router. > >> 2. All Windows machines should have the same "Workgroup" name. > > Yes, they have. > >> 3. Ensure all 3rd party antivirus has any firewall disabled - at >> least until you get the network to function. > > I can't find a way how to enable the firewall of Bitdefender. Did you mean to write that? Whatever, its firewall should be DISabled for the moment. If you can't disable it, uninstall Bitdefender. >> 4. The windows network type should be "Work", not "Private" or >> "Public". You may be able to get "Private" to work later, once you >> have everything set up correctly. Note: "Work" is only available on >> "Pro" and higher versions of windows. For home versions you must >> choose "Private". > > It is pro. But all pc's and laptops are connected with Private. Where > inbound connections are allowed. > >> 5. All windows machines should - at the very least - have the same >> username and password for their "Administrator" account. Ideally they >> should have a separate "User" account with limited permissions for >> everyday use. The folder(s) that you wish to have available over the >> LAN should have their sharing permissions set correctly. > > No, they have not. Each pc or laptop has it's own username and password. Probably your problem. Set up the same "Admin" user and password on all the machines. > >> 6. Test initially using ping from the command line. Ping by IP >> address until you can confirm that name resolution is working >> correctly. Windows often fails to get this right so you may find it >> easier to stick with IP addresses. If your router supports "binding" >> then use it. > > This works well. > >> 7. Windows explorer should be able to find your networked devices in >> its "Network" setting. You may be prompted to enable this feature. >> First look for computers by IP address, thus: \\<IP>\sharename - you >> should be prompted for the username and password to give access to >> that share. You may be prompted to save these credentials. Don't try >> to get device letter mapping working until you can see the network >> share easily and repeatably. > > This doesn't work. Nothing appears. On the target W11 laptop have you enabled file sharing, and shared a specific folder? If so, from that W11 laptop, if you use Windows Explorer to view "Computer" do you see - in the left hand column of the Explorer view - the title "Network" somewhere below "Computer"? If you open that tree, can you see the laptop itself? If so, can you open it and see the folder you have shared? This should work even if the network is disconnected. You might have to explicitly open it with \\<W11_laptop_name> Compare the behaviour with a known good W11 machine. > >> 8. There are different versions of the SMB protocol that Windows uses >> for file sharing. Make sure you have the same (most modern) version >> on all your machines. > > It's the same version as on another laptop with the same OS. And that is > accessable. > >> 9. Once you think you have it working, shut down everything. Then >> restart the router first, and other computers once the router has its >> internet connection properly established. Confirm that the networking >> behaves properly. Be aware that if a machine "sleeps" its networking >> may not behave properly when it is "woken up". > > I see no reason to restart the router. It works well. That's not the point. It is to confirm that everything will work correctly after a power outage. -- Graham J
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 15:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m79ep1F3qlU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18762 |
On 28/04/2025 15:15, Graham J wrote: > Fokke Nauta wrote: > > [snip] > > . >>> >>> I've come to this rather late, but you might work through this >>> checklist: >>> >>> 1. Do all the computers and other devices on the LAN get their IP >>> addresses by DHCP from a router? If not, why not? >> >> Yes, they all get a fixed IP address from the router, depending on >> their ID. > > Do you mean by using eh "bind" facility on the router, to assign an IP > address to the MAC address of each computer? It might not be called > "bind" on your router. > >> >>> 2. All Windows machines should have the same "Workgroup" name. >> >> Yes, they have. >> >>> 3. Ensure all 3rd party antivirus has any firewall disabled - at >>> least until you get the network to function. >> >> I can't find a way how to enable the firewall of Bitdefender. > > Did you mean to write that? Whatever, its firewall should be DISabled > for the moment. If you can't disable it, uninstall Bitdefender. > >>> 4. The windows network type should be "Work", not "Private" or >>> "Public". You may be able to get "Private" to work later, once you >>> have everything set up correctly. Note: "Work" is only available on >>> "Pro" and higher versions of windows. For home versions you must >>> choose "Private". >> >> It is pro. But all pc's and laptops are connected with Private. Where >> inbound connections are allowed. >> >>> 5. All windows machines should - at the very least - have the same >>> username and password for their "Administrator" account. Ideally >>> they should have a separate "User" account with limited permissions >>> for everyday use. The folder(s) that you wish to have available over >>> the LAN should have their sharing permissions set correctly. >> >> No, they have not. Each pc or laptop has it's own username and password. > > Probably your problem. Set up the same "Admin" user and password on all > the machines. > >> >>> 6. Test initially using ping from the command line. Ping by IP >>> address until you can confirm that name resolution is working >>> correctly. Windows often fails to get this right so you may find it >>> easier to stick with IP addresses. If your router supports "binding" >>> then use it. >> >> This works well. >> >>> 7. Windows explorer should be able to find your networked devices in >>> its "Network" setting. You may be prompted to enable this feature. >>> First look for computers by IP address, thus: \\<IP>\sharename - you >>> should be prompted for the username and password to give access to >>> that share. You may be prompted to save these credentials. Don't >>> try to get device letter mapping working until you can see the >>> network share easily and repeatably. >> >> This doesn't work. Nothing appears. > > On the target W11 laptop have you enabled file sharing, and shared a > specific folder? > > If so, from that W11 laptop, if you use Windows Explorer to view > "Computer" do you see - in the left hand column of the Explorer view - > the title "Network" somewhere below "Computer"? If you open that tree, > can you see the laptop itself? If so, can you open it and see the > folder you have shared? This should work even if the network is > disconnected. You might have to explicitly open it with > \\<W11_laptop_name> > Yes, the shared folders are visible. > Compare the behaviour with a known good W11 machine. I have the same W11 Pro laptop as my wife. Mine is accessable in the LAN. > >> >>> 8. There are different versions of the SMB protocol that Windows >>> uses for file sharing. Make sure you have the same (most modern) >>> version on all your machines. >> >> It's the same version as on another laptop with the same OS. And that >> is accessable. >> >>> 9. Once you think you have it working, shut down everything. Then >>> restart the router first, and other computers once the router has its >>> internet connection properly established. Confirm that the >>> networking behaves properly. Be aware that if a machine "sleeps" its >>> networking may not behave properly when it is "woken up". >> >> I see no reason to restart the router. It works well. > > That's not the point. It is to confirm that everything will work > correctly after a power outage. > OK, I will restart it, but I don't expect to see an improvement. Fokke
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| From | Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 19:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ba701k58p6f8qo031ru402qf1ejefqm4qf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #18767 |
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:39:45 +0200, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: >I have the same W11 Pro laptop as my wife. Mine is accessable in the LAN. In another post that arrived 6 minutes before this one, you said: >My pc has W10 Pro, my wife's laptop has W11 Pro. Can both of those statements be accurate? :-)
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 09:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7bdevF9o2bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18784 |
On 29/04/2025 02:31, Char Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:39:45 +0200, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> > wrote: > >> I have the same W11 Pro laptop as my wife. Mine is accessable in the LAN. > > In another post that arrived 6 minutes before this one, you said: > >> My pc has W10 Pro, my wife's laptop has W11 Pro. > > Can both of those statements be accurate? :-) > Ofcourse. Otherwise I wouldn't have written it. I have a pc with W10 Pro, which I use normally. I also have a laptop with W11 Pro, which I use on my activities outside. This is the same laptop as my wife has. Fokke
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 08:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vuq0ge$1as9k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18789 |
Fokke Nauta wrote: [snip] >> > > Ofcourse. Otherwise I wouldn't have written it. > I have a pc with W10 Pro, which I use normally. I also have a laptop > with W11 Pro, which I use on my activities outside. This is the same > laptop as my wife has. It would now help us to have a complete picture of your system. Please therefore list every device with its details, as follows: Computer name IP address Desktop or laptop Operating system Ethernet cable or WiFi connection Accounts present and whether Standard User or Administrator Shared folder name(s) Printer name, make and model Connection type - USB - WiFi to router - WiFi to specific computer - Ethernet cable IP address if networked NAS (if present) - make and model Other network components: switch, WiFi extender, etc. Please also state the make and model number of your router. Then summarise which computer can see what shares on all the other computers. Thank you. -- Graham J
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 11:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7gua1F68jtU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18794 |
On 29/04/2025 09:52, Graham J wrote: > Fokke Nauta wrote: > > [snip] > >>> >> >> Ofcourse. Otherwise I wouldn't have written it. >> I have a pc with W10 Pro, which I use normally. I also have a laptop >> with W11 Pro, which I use on my activities outside. This is the same >> laptop as my wife has. > > > It would now help us to have a complete picture of your system. Please > therefore list every device with its details, as follows: > > > Computer name > IP address > Desktop or laptop > Operating system > Ethernet cable or WiFi connection > Accounts present and whether Standard User or Administrator > Shared folder name(s) > > Printer name, make and model > Connection type > - USB > - WiFi to router > - WiFi to specific computer > - Ethernet cable > IP address if networked > > NAS (if present) - make and model > > Other network components: switch, WiFi extender, etc. > > Please also state the make and model number of your router. > > Then summarise which computer can see what shares on all the other > computers. > > Thank you. > > Ofcourse I won't do that. Fokke
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| From | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 12:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vuvlc9$2ibnk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18875 |
Fokke Nauta wrote: [snip] >> It would now help us to have a complete picture of your system. >> Please therefore list every device with its details, as follows: >> >> >> Computer name >> IP address >> Desktop or laptop >> Operating system >> Ethernet cable or WiFi connection >> Accounts present and whether Standard User or Administrator >> Shared folder name(s) >> >> Printer name, make and model >> Connection type >> - USB >> - WiFi to router >> - WiFi to specific computer >> - Ethernet cable >> IP address if networked >> >> NAS (if present) - make and model >> >> Other network components: switch, WiFi extender, etc. >> >> Please also state the make and model number of your router. >> >> Then summarise which computer can see what shares on all the other >> computers. >> >> Thank you. >> >> > > Of course I won't do that. Many people here have offered sensible suggestions as to what you should look for. But you have not resolved the problem. So there must be something about your set-up that you haven't told us - probably without realising your omission. So the purpose of my question was to get you to review everything and document it for us all to see. It also makes it easier for us to ask very specific questions or make carefully targetted suggestions. I am aware that this will take some time - but you have already spent a lot of time on this already! Nothing that I've asked you compromises your security unless we come to visit you in your home. And if you asked a local computer support business to help you the first thing they would do is to gather as much information as possible about your system. -- Graham J
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 15:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7h9tgF835uU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18886 |
On 01/05/2025 13:19, Graham J wrote: > Fokke Nauta wrote: > > [snip] > >>> It would now help us to have a complete picture of your system. >>> Please therefore list every device with its details, as follows: >>> >>> >>> Computer name >>> IP address >>> Desktop or laptop >>> Operating system >>> Ethernet cable or WiFi connection >>> Accounts present and whether Standard User or Administrator >>> Shared folder name(s) >>> >>> Printer name, make and model >>> Connection type >>> - USB >>> - WiFi to router >>> - WiFi to specific computer >>> - Ethernet cable >>> IP address if networked >>> >>> NAS (if present) - make and model >>> >>> Other network components: switch, WiFi extender, etc. >>> >>> Please also state the make and model number of your router. >>> >>> Then summarise which computer can see what shares on all the other >>> computers. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> >> >> Of course I won't do that. > > > Many people here have offered sensible suggestions as to what you should > look for. But you have not resolved the problem. > > So there must be something about your set-up that you haven't told us - > probably without realising your omission. > > So the purpose of my question was to get you to review everything and > document it for us all to see. It also makes it easier for us to ask > very specific questions or make carefully targetted suggestions. I am > aware that this will take some time - but you have already spent a lot > of time on this already! > > Nothing that I've asked you compromises your security unless we come to > visit you in your home. And if you asked a local computer support > business to help you the first thing they would do is to gather as much > information as possible about your system. > > Ofcourse I'm not going to reveal all those details. It doesn't make any sence. But we've got 3 pc's with W10 Pro, and 2 laptops withy W11 Pro. They all get an IP address from our router, depending on their MAC address. The 3 pc's and my laptop have shares, and can see eachothers shares. No problem. The W11 laptop of my wife can see all shares of the other pc's and my laptop. But my laptop and the pc's can't see the shares of my wife's laptop. Fokke
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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 16:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vv0nb6$3f33j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18895 |
On 05/01/2025 9:05 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: > On 01/05/2025 13:19, Graham J wrote: >> Fokke Nauta wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>> It would now help us to have a complete picture of your system. >>>> Please therefore list every device with its details, as follows: >>>> >>>> >>>> Computer name >>>> IP address >>>> Desktop or laptop >>>> Operating system >>>> Ethernet cable or WiFi connection >>>> Accounts present and whether Standard User or Administrator >>>> Shared folder name(s) >>>> >>>> Printer name, make and model >>>> Connection type >>>> - USB >>>> - WiFi to router >>>> - WiFi to specific computer >>>> - Ethernet cable >>>> IP address if networked >>>> >>>> NAS (if present) - make and model >>>> >>>> Other network components: switch, WiFi extender, etc. >>>> >>>> Please also state the make and model number of your router. >>>> >>>> Then summarise which computer can see what shares on all the other >>>> computers. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Of course I won't do that. >> >> >> Many people here have offered sensible suggestions as to what you >> should look for. But you have not resolved the problem. >> >> So there must be something about your set-up that you haven't told us >> - probably without realising your omission. >> >> So the purpose of my question was to get you to review everything and >> document it for us all to see. It also makes it easier for us to ask >> very specific questions or make carefully targetted suggestions. I am >> aware that this will take some time - but you have already spent a lot >> of time on this already! >> >> Nothing that I've asked you compromises your security unless we come >> to visit you in your home. And if you asked a local computer support >> business to help you the first thing they would do is to gather as >> much information as possible about your system. >> >> > > Ofcourse I'm not going to reveal all those details. It doesn't make any > sence. > But we've got 3 pc's with W10 Pro, and 2 laptops withy W11 Pro. They all > get an IP address from our router, depending on their MAC address. > The 3 pc's and my laptop have shares, and can see eachothers shares. No > problem. > The W11 laptop of my wife can see all shares of the other pc's and my > laptop. But my laptop and the pc's can't see the shares of my wife's > laptop. > > Fokke DUMB Questions: In all of the attemps to help you, there is a basic question I must ask. Many changes to security, computer system, etc. require that the computer be rebooted to have them take effect. Are you rebooting your computer after making the suggested changes? Some screens require you to use a SAVE or equivalent button to exit after changes. Are you using that button?
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 11:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7jim2FiuinU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18915 |
On 01/05/2025 22:59, knuttle wrote: > On 05/01/2025 9:05 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> On 01/05/2025 13:19, Graham J wrote: >>> Fokke Nauta wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>>> It would now help us to have a complete picture of your system. >>>>> Please therefore list every device with its details, as follows: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Computer name >>>>> IP address >>>>> Desktop or laptop >>>>> Operating system >>>>> Ethernet cable or WiFi connection >>>>> Accounts present and whether Standard User or Administrator >>>>> Shared folder name(s) >>>>> >>>>> Printer name, make and model >>>>> Connection type >>>>> - USB >>>>> - WiFi to router >>>>> - WiFi to specific computer >>>>> - Ethernet cable >>>>> IP address if networked >>>>> >>>>> NAS (if present) - make and model >>>>> >>>>> Other network components: switch, WiFi extender, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Please also state the make and model number of your router. >>>>> >>>>> Then summarise which computer can see what shares on all the other >>>>> computers. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Of course I won't do that. >>> >>> >>> Many people here have offered sensible suggestions as to what you >>> should look for. But you have not resolved the problem. >>> >>> So there must be something about your set-up that you haven't told us >>> - probably without realising your omission. >>> >>> So the purpose of my question was to get you to review everything and >>> document it for us all to see. It also makes it easier for us to ask >>> very specific questions or make carefully targetted suggestions. I >>> am aware that this will take some time - but you have already spent a >>> lot of time on this already! >>> >>> Nothing that I've asked you compromises your security unless we come >>> to visit you in your home. And if you asked a local computer support >>> business to help you the first thing they would do is to gather as >>> much information as possible about your system. >>> >>> >> >> Ofcourse I'm not going to reveal all those details. It doesn't make >> any sence. >> But we've got 3 pc's with W10 Pro, and 2 laptops withy W11 Pro. They >> all get an IP address from our router, depending on their MAC address. >> The 3 pc's and my laptop have shares, and can see eachothers shares. >> No problem. >> The W11 laptop of my wife can see all shares of the other pc's and my >> laptop. But my laptop and the pc's can't see the shares of my wife's >> laptop. >> >> Fokke > DUMB Questions: In all of the attemps to help you, there is a basic > question I must ask. Many changes to security, computer system, etc. > require that the computer be rebooted to have them take effect. > > Are you rebooting your computer after making the suggested changes? Yes, ofcourse. > > Some screens require you to use a SAVE or equivalent button to exit > after changes. Are you using that button? In case there was a Save option, I saved it. Fokke
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| From | Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 10:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <omq11kdl6r9bk3dndpg8duq5rov7imq32s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #18789 |
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 09:29:36 +0200, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: >On 29/04/2025 02:31, Char Jackson wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:39:45 +0200, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> >> wrote: >> >>> I have the same W11 Pro laptop as my wife. Mine is accessable in the LAN. >> >> In another post that arrived 6 minutes before this one, you said: >> >>> My pc has W10 Pro, my wife's laptop has W11 Pro. >> >> Can both of those statements be accurate? :-) >> > >Ofcourse. Otherwise I wouldn't have written it. >I have a pc with W10 Pro, which I use normally. I also have a laptop >with W11 Pro, which I use on my activities outside. This is the same >laptop as my wife has. Excellent! Thanks for clarifying.
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| From | Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 17:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <681105b8$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #18784 |
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:31:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:39:45 +0200, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> > wrote: > >>I have the same W11 Pro laptop as my wife. Mine is accessable in the >>LAN. > > In another post that arrived 6 minutes before this one, you said: > >>My pc has W10 Pro, my wife's laptop has W11 Pro. > > Can both of those statements be accurate? :-) They can if 3 computers are involved: Two laptops with W11, and another machine (desktop?) with W10. -- "I confess that mankind has a free will, but it is to milk cows, to build houses, etc., and no further." [Martin Luther, Table Talk]
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 11:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7guc8F68jtU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18810 |
On 29/04/2025 19:00, Sam E wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:31:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:39:45 +0200, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> >> wrote: >> >>> I have the same W11 Pro laptop as my wife. Mine is accessable in the >>> LAN. >> >> In another post that arrived 6 minutes before this one, you said: >> >>> My pc has W10 Pro, my wife's laptop has W11 Pro. >> >> Can both of those statements be accurate? :-) > > They can if 3 computers are involved: Two laptops with W11, and another > machine (desktop?) with W10. > We have 3 pc's with W10 Pro, and 2 laptops with W11 Pro. Fokke
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 12:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vuoa6o$3mk9p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18762 |
On Mon, 4/28/2025 9:15 AM, Graham J wrote:
> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> .
>>>
>>> I've come to this rather late, but you might work through this checklist:
>>>
>>> 1. Do all the computers and other devices on the LAN get their IP addresses by DHCP from a router? If not, why not?
>>
>> Yes, they all get a fixed IP address from the router, depending on their ID.
>
> Do you mean by using eh "bind" facility on the router, to assign an IP address to the MAC address of each computer? It might not be called "bind" on your router.
>
>>
>>> 2. All Windows machines should have the same "Workgroup" name.
>>
>> Yes, they have.
>>
>>> 3. Ensure all 3rd party antivirus has any firewall disabled - at least until you get the network to function.
>>
>> I can't find a way how to enable the firewall of Bitdefender.
>
> Did you mean to write that? Whatever, its firewall should be DISabled for the moment. If you can't disable it, uninstall Bitdefender.
>
>>> 4. The windows network type should be "Work", not "Private" or "Public". You may be able to get "Private" to work later, once you have everything set up correctly. Note: "Work" is only available on "Pro" and higher versions of windows. For home versions you must choose "Private".
>>
>> It is pro. But all pc's and laptops are connected with Private. Where inbound connections are allowed.
>>
>>> 5. All windows machines should - at the very least - have the same username and password for their "Administrator" account. Ideally they should have a separate "User" account with limited permissions for everyday use. The folder(s) that you wish to have available over the LAN should have their sharing permissions set correctly.
>>
>> No, they have not. Each pc or laptop has it's own username and password.
>
> Probably your problem. Set up the same "Admin" user and password on all the machines.
>
>> This doesn't work. Nothing appears.
So the problem is with the protocol, perhaps firewall, perhaps
some service. If the dialog box does not appear, there is
little opportunity for the missing account material to be the issue.
If a dialog for username and password appeared, then there would be more
chance for a username issue to stop it from working.
It helps if all machines have one account name in common. On my machines,
all machines have a Bullwinkle account and password, for ease of
implementation.
*******
Wireshark (promiscuous packet tracer) can be used to capture network traces.
It has a dissector (post-trace analysis) for file sharing, but the version
I used, it presented the error word with the bit-per-error-type fields
and it did not label them. You have to then Google to look up the
code, which in my case was a failure entitled "Need More Information".
There is another tool, which avoids some of the details of the Wireshark install.
Network Monitor 3.4 (I used the x64 version for my Win11 x64 tests, client side machine)
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=4865
This is a thing similar to Wireshark, which uses the same kind of ETW events
as Process Monitor consumes. So unlike Wireshark, which attaches to the network
interface and collects raw packets, NM34 listens to ETW events. In particularly,
the SYSTEM process (PID 4) is the thing that emits the SMB packets. File Explorer
originates the requests to the server, but in the trace, SYSTEM sends the packets.
The install is a bit ponderous (slow, MsMpEng is watching you the whole time),
and there are two installers. They will ask for administrator permission
via UAC prompts. The two installs, are the packet tracer, and the
post-analysis parser.
After all the install is finished, you can restart the machine, and boot
into Windows 11 again on the client-side machine where you just installed
NM34. This allows whatever was installed, to do whatever is needed. The
software does not admit to connecting directly to the network interface.
On my test machine, there is only one Network Interface instance, so there
was no need for me to identify which NIC I wanted to trace.
[Picture] W11 Trisket calls W11 Wallace Server, success, Directory List fetched
https://i.postimg.cc/bNQqGT10/Network-Monitor-Demo-NM34-W11-W11-SMB.gif
I don't know what you will find, and that's just a demo of how the raw
packet trace can be separated into "events" in the progression of
a SMB/CIFS connection.
Paul
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 09:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7beh4F9o2bU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18775 |
On 28/04/2025 18:26, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 4/28/2025 9:15 AM, Graham J wrote: >> Fokke Nauta wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> . >>>> >>>> I've come to this rather late, but you might work through this checklist: >>>> >>>> 1. Do all the computers and other devices on the LAN get their IP addresses by DHCP from a router? If not, why not? >>> >>> Yes, they all get a fixed IP address from the router, depending on their ID. >> >> Do you mean by using eh "bind" facility on the router, to assign an IP address to the MAC address of each computer? It might not be called "bind" on your router. >> >>> >>>> 2. All Windows machines should have the same "Workgroup" name. >>> >>> Yes, they have. >>> >>>> 3. Ensure all 3rd party antivirus has any firewall disabled - at least until you get the network to function. >>> >>> I can't find a way how to enable the firewall of Bitdefender. >> >> Did you mean to write that? Whatever, its firewall should be DISabled for the moment. If you can't disable it, uninstall Bitdefender. >> >>>> 4. The windows network type should be "Work", not "Private" or "Public". You may be able to get "Private" to work later, once you have everything set up correctly. Note: "Work" is only available on "Pro" and higher versions of windows. For home versions you must choose "Private". >>> >>> It is pro. But all pc's and laptops are connected with Private. Where inbound connections are allowed. >>> >>>> 5. All windows machines should - at the very least - have the same username and password for their "Administrator" account. Ideally they should have a separate "User" account with limited permissions for everyday use. The folder(s) that you wish to have available over the LAN should have their sharing permissions set correctly. >>> >>> No, they have not. Each pc or laptop has it's own username and password. >> >> Probably your problem. Set up the same "Admin" user and password on all the machines. >> > >>> This doesn't work. Nothing appears. > > So the problem is with the protocol, perhaps firewall, perhaps > some service. If the dialog box does not appear, there is > little opportunity for the missing account material to be the issue. > If a dialog for username and password appeared, then there would be more > chance for a username issue to stop it from working. > > It helps if all machines have one account name in common. On my machines, > all machines have a Bullwinkle account and password, for ease of > implementation. Here every pc and laptop has a different username and password. > > ******* > > Wireshark (promiscuous packet tracer) can be used to capture network traces. > It has a dissector (post-trace analysis) for file sharing, but the version > I used, it presented the error word with the bit-per-error-type fields > and it did not label them. You have to then Google to look up the > code, which in my case was a failure entitled "Need More Information". I have no experience with Wireshark. > > There is another tool, which avoids some of the details of the Wireshark install. > > Network Monitor 3.4 (I used the x64 version for my Win11 x64 tests, client side machine) > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=4865 > > This is a thing similar to Wireshark, which uses the same kind of ETW events > as Process Monitor consumes. So unlike Wireshark, which attaches to the network > interface and collects raw packets, NM34 listens to ETW events. In particularly, > the SYSTEM process (PID 4) is the thing that emits the SMB packets. File Explorer > originates the requests to the server, but in the trace, SYSTEM sends the packets. > > The install is a bit ponderous (slow, MsMpEng is watching you the whole time), > and there are two installers. They will ask for administrator permission > via UAC prompts. The two installs, are the packet tracer, and the > post-analysis parser. > > After all the install is finished, you can restart the machine, and boot > into Windows 11 again on the client-side machine where you just installed > NM34. This allows whatever was installed, to do whatever is needed. The > software does not admit to connecting directly to the network interface. > On my test machine, there is only one Network Interface instance, so there > was no need for me to identify which NIC I wanted to trace. > > [Picture] W11 Trisket calls W11 Wallace Server, success, Directory List fetched > > https://i.postimg.cc/bNQqGT10/Network-Monitor-Demo-NM34-W11-W11-SMB.gif Looks interesting. But I haven't got a clue as what to do with it ... > > I don't know what you will find, and that's just a demo of how the raw > packet trace can be separated into "events" in the progression of > a SMB/CIFS connection. > > Paul > Fokke
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 09:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vuqkqc$1thdq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18791 |
On Tue, 4/29/2025 3:47 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> On 28/04/2025 18:26, Paul wrote:
>> [Picture] W11 Trisket calls W11 Wallace Server, success, Directory List fetched
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/bNQqGT10/Network-Monitor-Demo-NM34-W11-W11-SMB.gif
>
> Looks interesting. But I haven't got a clue as what to do with it ...
Your trace will be different.
I can't make a trace that looks like your trace would,
because I have no root cause to work with.
What we are hoping to see in a trace, is additional
evidence. Any sort of clue, as to how far your transaction
attempt gets, before it stops.
Did the request leave the PC ?
Did any acknowledgement at all come back (Negative-Acknowledgement or Positive-Acknowledgement) ?
Is there an error code shown ?
My picture highlights one error code. It is OK to
have error codes, when the software tries a different
variant on the second attempt and that attempt succeeds.
I'm sorry I can't make this simpler.
*******
eventvwr.msc # EventViewer has limited information, on each end of connection attempts.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/5227mnQW/event-viewer-smbclient.gif
*******
There *was* a tool at one time, written by a third party
company, that verified the plumbing on the two
computers, and could debug any SMB failure. It was
written around the Windows XP era. However, I don't
remember the name of it, and cannot find it in Google
either. But there was a tool for the job. It would be
difficult for the software company to sell enough
copies, to stay in business. It is not a particularly
viable business to be in. But at least, someone did
try to simplify this stuff.
Paul
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