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Software for creating and editing PDFs

Started byTim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu>
First post2025-02-28 09:59 -0500
Last post2025-03-01 00:08 +0000
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  Software for creating and editing PDFs Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-02-28 09:59 -0500
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-02-28 15:26 +0000
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-28 09:56 -0600
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-28 11:02 -0500
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-28 10:22 -0600
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-28 11:42 -0500
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-28 11:51 -0500
              Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-28 13:54 -0500
                Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 20:00 +0000
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 20:32 +0000
              Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-02-28 16:30 -0500
                Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-01 00:20 +0000
                  Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 19:49 -0500
                Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 20:01 -0500
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-02 16:41 +0000
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-28 11:30 -0500
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-28 16:47 +0000
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-28 12:51 -0500
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-28 18:01 +0000
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-28 15:57 -0500
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:01 -0500
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-01 10:45 -0800
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-01 14:55 -0500
            Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-03-02 15:17 -0500
              Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-02 20:25 -0500
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs MR <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 16:55 +0000
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-28 17:17 +0000
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-02-28 12:12 -0600
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:17 +0000
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-28 14:40 -0500
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-01 06:44 -0500
      Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-01 08:24 -0500
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-03-01 07:46 -0800
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-03-01 13:24 -0700
        Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-03-01 23:00 +0000
          Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> - 2025-03-03 19:05 -0500
    Re: Software for creating and editing PDFs John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-01 00:08 +0000

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#17501 — Software for creating and editing PDFs

FromTim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu>
Date2025-02-28 09:59 -0500
SubjectSoftware for creating and editing PDFs
Message-ID<ujj3sjljk82clv8dhcrr2j34kcjvls2g39@4ax.com>
My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts. 

Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?

-- 
Tim Slattery
timslattery <at> utexas <dot> edu

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#17502

FromPeter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam>
Date2025-02-28 15:26 +0000
Message-ID<f6l3sj5gebis1cvk6ddsss1jem25lnqumn@4ax.com>
In reply to#17501
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 09:59:26 -0500, Tim Slattery
<TimSlattery@utexas.edu> wrote:

>My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts. 
>
>Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?

I use Nitro, which is paid for but they don't keep releasing paid-for
upgrades. I don't remember the last time I gave them any money.
Having said that, for a'print to pdf' requirement I don't know what if
offers that Word doesn't. Why does your wife have problems?

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#17503

Fromsticks <wolverine01@charter.net>
Date2025-02-28 09:56 -0600
Message-ID<vpsmb0$3mmmb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17501
On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
> 
> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
> 

get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office 
2019 for $30.  I bought one of these and two of the 2021 version.  2021 
is 55.  2024 they sell for $130

<https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-plus-2019-for-windows-2>

I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf 
and it works instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can 
open it to read.

-- 
Better Days Ahead!
Darwinism Is Junk Science!!

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#17504

From"Alan K." <alan@invalid.com>
Date2025-02-28 11:02 -0500
Message-ID<vpsmn5$3ms6p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17503
On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>
>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>
> 
> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office 2019 for $30.  I 
> bought one of these and two of the 2021 version.  2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
> 
> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-plus-2019-for-windows-2>
> 
> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf and it works 
> instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can open it to read.
> 
I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the same.  At least if you 
read the  hype that it mimics Word.

-- 
Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.8,  Kernel 6.8.0-54-generic
Thunderbird 128.7.1esr, Mozilla Firefox 135.0.1
     Alan K.

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#17505

Fromsticks <wolverine01@charter.net>
Date2025-02-28 10:22 -0600
Message-ID<vpsnrj$3mmma$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17504
On 2/28/2025 10:02 AM, Alan K. wrote:
> On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>>
>>
>> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office 
>> 2019 for $30.  I bought one of these and two of the 2021 version.  
>> 2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
>>
>> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional- 
>> plus-2019-for-windows-2>
>>
>> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf 
>> and it works instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can 
>> open it to read.
>>
> I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the same.  
> At least if you read the  hype that it mimics Word.
> 

maybe, but for $30 i want the best

-- 
Better Days Ahead!
Darwinism Is Junk Science!!

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#17507

FromRick <rick@nospam.com>
Date2025-02-28 11:42 -0500
Message-ID<c31b65a44d1778895c8379e942bdff3b6877b233@i2pn2.org>
In reply to#17505
On 2/28/2025 11:22 AM, sticks wrote:
> On 2/28/2025 10:02 AM, Alan K. wrote:
>> On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
>>> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>>>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>>>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>>>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>>>
>>>
>>> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office 
>>> 2019 for $30.  I bought one of these and two of the 2021 version. 
>>> 2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
>>>
>>> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional- 
>>> plus-2019-for-windows-2>
>>>
>>> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf 
>>> and it works instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can 
>>> open it to read.
>>>
>> I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the same. 
>> At least if you read the  hype that it mimics Word.
>>
> 
> maybe, but for $30 i want the best
> 

I have a similar but different issue.  I have used a paid version of the 
nearly 20-year old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does 
everything I need, but only runs on Windows 7.  If there is a way to get 
it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.

Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions 
of this product?

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#17509

From"Alan K." <alan@invalid.com>
Date2025-02-28 11:51 -0500
Message-ID<vpspih$3ms6q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17507
On 2/28/25 11:42 AM, Rick wrote:
> On 2/28/2025 11:22 AM, sticks wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 10:02 AM, Alan K. wrote:
>>> On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
>>>> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>>>>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>>>>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>>>>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office 2019 for $30.  I 
>>>> bought one of these and two of the 2021 version. 2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional- plus-2019-for- 
>>>> windows-2>
>>>>
>>>> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf and it works 
>>>> instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can open it to read.
>>>>
>>> I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the same. At least if you 
>>> read the  hype that it mimics Word.
>>>
>>
>> maybe, but for $30 i want the best
>>
> 
> I have a similar but different issue.  I have used a paid version of the nearly 20-year 
> old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does everything I need, but only runs on 
> Windows 7.  If there is a way to get it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.
> 
> Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions of this product?
You could always install something like VMware and make a virtual machine of Windows 7. 
For file editing it would work.

-- 
Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.8,  Kernel 6.8.0-54-generic
Thunderbird 128.7.1esr, Mozilla Firefox 135.0.1
     Alan K.

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#17516

FromRick <rick@nospam.com>
Date2025-02-28 13:54 -0500
Message-ID<62cf301ecc237e3943b96146ca9952eb4ec1680e@i2pn2.org>
In reply to#17509
On 2/28/2025 11:51 AM, Alan K. wrote:
> On 2/28/25 11:42 AM, Rick wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 11:22 AM, sticks wrote:
>>> On 2/28/2025 10:02 AM, Alan K. wrote:
>>>> On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
>>>>> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>>>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>>>>>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>>>>>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>>>>>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of 
>>>>> Office 2019 for $30.  I bought one of these and two of the 2021 
>>>>> version. 2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional- 
>>>>> plus-2019-for- windows-2>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a 
>>>>> pdf and it works instantly and looks exactly the same, except 
>>>>> anyone can open it to read.
>>>>>
>>>> I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the 
>>>> same. At least if you read the  hype that it mimics Word.
>>>>
>>>
>>> maybe, but for $30 i want the best
>>>
>>
>> I have a similar but different issue.  I have used a paid version of 
>> the nearly 20-year old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does 
>> everything I need, but only runs on Windows 7.  If there is a way to 
>> get it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.
>>
>> Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions 
>> of this product?
> You could always install something like VMware and make a virtual 
> machine of Windows 7. For file editing it would work.
> 

That's an interesting option I might consider if my one remaining 
Windows 7 laptop decides to go to pasture.  In the meantime, I was 
looking for a low-effort, free alternative product that would run under 
Win 11 with similar functionality.

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#17520

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-02-28 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<vpt4ln$101t$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#17516
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 13:54:42 -0500, Rick wrote :


>>> I have a similar but different issue.� I have used a paid version of 
>>> the nearly 20-year old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does 
>>> everything I need, but only runs on Windows 7.� If there is a way to 
>>> get it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.
>>>
>>> Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions 
>>> of this product?
>> You could always install something like VMware and make a virtual 
>> machine of Windows 7. For file editing it would work.
>> 
> 
> That's an interesting option I might consider if my one remaining 
> Windows 7 laptop decides to go to pasture.  In the meantime, I was 
> looking for a low-effort, free alternative product that would run under 
> Win 11 with similar functionality.

Hi Rick,

Somewhere I have the Adobe Acrobat (the payware) version 7, but I've been
using version 6 payware on my Windows 10 computers for many (many) years.

All you need are three things, all of which are saved in a zip file:
a. A copy of the original installation files
b. A copy of the original registered company name
c. A copy of the original registered key

The only reason I didn't like version 7 was they asked for the Internet and
I hated that when it happened (now many progs won't work without the net).

So I've been using version 6 ever since on my Windows 10 desktop, but the
Adobe Acrobat 6 payware works "ok" on the Windows 11 laptop too.

The main difference is that somehow I can't set the default PDF extension
file association in Windows 11 to be the Adobe Acrobat 6 installation.

Dunno why. But other than the Adobe Acrobat 6 payware not capable of being
the default PDF file association in Windows 11, otherwise it works for me.

Note that the payware, nowadays, doesn't do anything that you can't get
with freeware, but that's a topic for another day...

We need to update this chart... 
[?] Print book format PDF (FinePrint payware)
[x] Add or concatonate pages (pdftk, acrobat payware)
[x] Add signature (Adobe Reader Fill-and-sign sign-yourself tool)
[x] Archive sites (wkhtmltopdf, Acrobat payware,fastone scroll capture)
[x] Convert PDF to MSWord or any epub format & vice versa (Calibre)
[x] Create PDF new text (Irfanview or Paint.NET plugins + Ghostscript)
[x] Edit PDF existing text (Adobe Reader commenting, Acrobat payware)
[x] Extract images (PDF Exchange Viewer, PDF Shaper)
[x] Fast PDF reader: (Sumatra or Foxit)
[x] Globally search & replace PDF text (Libre Office)
[x] Merge PDFs (pdfsam, pdftk) 
[x] OCR, PDF-Xchange, freeOCR (paperfile.net), GOCR (jocr.sourceforge.net)
[x] Online shrink PDF https://www.adobe.com/acrobat/online/compress-pdf.html
[x] PDF text to audio file (Balabolka)
[x] Print sans username in the properties (Libre Office Writer)
[x] Remove pages (pdfsam, pdftk)
[x] Remove restrictions (Ghostscript & Ghostview with ps2edit & pdfwrite or pdf2djvu)
[x] Renumber pages (Acrobat Reader)
[x] Reorder pages (mutool)
[x] Rotate pages (Acrobat Reader)
[x] Shrink PDFs (ImageMagick or Acrobat payware or rlvision shareware)
[x] Tile PDFs (i.e., to print large posters) (Posterazor)

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#17522

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-28 20:32 +0000
Message-ID<vpt6h6$3qu4f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17507
Rick <rick@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 2/28/2025 11:22 AM, sticks wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 10:02 AM, Alan K. wrote:
>>> On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
>>>> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>>>>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>>>>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>>>>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office 
>>>> 2019 for $30.  I bought one of these and two of the 2021 version. 
>>>> 2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
>>>> 
>>>> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional- 
>>>> plus-2019-for-windows-2>
>>>> 
>>>> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf 
>>>> and it works instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can 
>>>> open it to read.
>>>> 
>>> I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the same. 
>>> At least if you read the  hype that it mimics Word.
>>> 
>> 
>> maybe, but for $30 i want the best
>> 
> 
> I have a similar but different issue.  I have used a paid version of the 
> nearly 20-year old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does 
> everything I need, but only runs on Windows 7.  If there is a way to get 
> it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.
> 
> Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions 
> of this product?

Which functions do you need?

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#17525

FromRick <rick@nospam.com>
Date2025-02-28 16:30 -0500
Message-ID<71a8c00485c341bbc14ae00ecab350767479cb1a@i2pn2.org>
In reply to#17522
On 2/28/2025 3:32 PM, Chris wrote:
> Rick <rick@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 11:22 AM, sticks wrote:
>>> On 2/28/2025 10:02 AM, Alan K. wrote:
>>>> On 2/28/25 10:56 AM, sticks wrote:
>>>>> On 2/28/2025 8:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>>>> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
>>>>>> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
>>>>>> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
>>>>>> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> get a newer version of Office.  You can get a full version of Office
>>>>> 2019 for $30.  I bought one of these and two of the 2021 version.
>>>>> 2021 is 55.  2024 they sell for $130
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-office-professional-
>>>>> plus-2019-for-windows-2>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 50 page document with links and other things I save as a pdf
>>>>> and it works instantly and looks exactly the same, except anyone can
>>>>> open it to read.
>>>>>
>>>> I was going to say the free version of Libreoffice might do the same.
>>>> At least if you read the  hype that it mimics Word.
>>>>
>>>
>>> maybe, but for $30 i want the best
>>>
>>
>> I have a similar but different issue.  I have used a paid version of the
>> nearly 20-year old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does
>> everything I need, but only runs on Windows 7.  If there is a way to get
>> it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.
>>
>> Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions
>> of this product?
> 
> Which functions do you need?
> 

Merging multiple PDF files into one PDF, with alternatives for file size 
based on desired quality.  Ability to take a PDF image and crop it.  Be 
able to enter data into a .pdf form that has blanks to fill in (like an 
application).  Editing text if the document is formatted for editing. 
Password protecting a .pdf file.

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#17529

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-03-01 00:20 +0000
Message-ID<vptjrp$2b9i$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#17525
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:30:04 -0500, Rick wrote :


> Merging multiple PDF files into one PDF, with alternatives for file size 
> based on desired quality.  Ability to take a PDF image and crop it.  Be 
> able to enter data into a .pdf form that has blanks to fill in (like an 
> application).  Editing text if the document is formatted for editing. 
> Password protecting a .pdf file.

Hi Rick,

Based on reading this newsgroup for years, all of that has been covered.
[x] Merge PDFs (pdfsam, pdftk) 
[x] Shrink PDFs (ImageMagick or Acrobat payware or rlvision shareware)
[x] Extract images (PDF Exchange Viewer, PDF Shaper) [you can crop later]
[x] Edit PDF existing text (Adobe Reader commenting, Acrobat payware)
[x] Create PDF new text (Irfanview or Paint.NET plugins + Ghostscript)

I've written tutorials on how to REMOVE PDF restrictions, but I never
thought about *adding* PDF restrictions, such as password protection.

So I've added to the chart of things people want to do with a PDF:
[x] Offline encrypt PDF to password protect the PDF for transmission

 <https://pdfencrypt.net/>
 <https://pdfencrypt.net/files/setup.exe>
 Name: setup.exe
 Size: 5515925 bytes (5386 KiB)
 SHA256: 7D5B37F986EBC374772CB749FAA4B4DA39D466D14A03BEE76B13800E59131992

What else is needed to do with a PDF that we haven't discussed in the past?

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#17531

Fromknuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
Date2025-02-28 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<vptlis$3tfc2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17529
On 02/28/2025 7:20 PM, Marion wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:30:04 -0500, Rick wrote :
> 
> 
>> Merging multiple PDF files into one PDF, with alternatives for file 
>> size based on desired quality.  Ability to take a PDF image and crop 
>> it.  Be able to enter data into a .pdf form that has blanks to fill in 
>> (like an application).  Editing text if the document is formatted for 
>> editing. Password protecting a .pdf file.
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> Based on reading this newsgroup for years, all of that has been covered.
> [x] Merge PDFs (pdfsam, pdftk) [x] Shrink PDFs (ImageMagick or Acrobat 
> payware or rlvision shareware)
> [x] Extract images (PDF Exchange Viewer, PDF Shaper) [you can crop later]
> [x] Edit PDF existing text (Adobe Reader commenting, Acrobat payware)
> [x] Create PDF new text (Irfanview or Paint.NET plugins + Ghostscript)
> 
> I've written tutorials on how to REMOVE PDF restrictions, but I never
> thought about *adding* PDF restrictions, such as password protection.
> 
> So I've added to the chart of things people want to do with a PDF:
> [x] Offline encrypt PDF to password protect the PDF for transmission
> 
> <https://pdfencrypt.net/>
> <https://pdfencrypt.net/files/setup.exe>
> Name: setup.exe
> Size: 5515925 bytes (5386 KiB)
> SHA256: 7D5B37F986EBC374772CB749FAA4B4DA39D466D14A03BEE76B13800E59131992
> 
> What else is needed to do with a PDF that we haven't discussed in the past?
I use WordPerfect, to create PDF files, You can set the security 
parameters to control the documents use.

WordPerfect Student and Home does the common word processing, 
spreadsheet functions that are in the more expensive versions and cost 
about $70, with exception.  Non of the exception interfere with the 
normal things you do with a word processor

There is another way to create PDF files.  There are many free PDF 
printer programs.   These programs are installed on you computer and are 
used like any other printer.   The individual programs give you various 
levels of security control over the PDF file.   They are non specific, 
and any thing you can print a hard copy of you can print to a PDF file.
I have use CutePDF Writer for years.

Some let you print multiple documents to one PDF file.

There is a stand alone program that I use called PDFSam Basic.  This 
program lets you manipulate multiple PDF's, remove pages, insert pages, 
combine multiple PDF, etc. It is not a printer, so has to be used as an 
auxiliary program to a PDF printer or a word processor that can create 
PDF files.

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#17532

Fromknuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
Date2025-02-28 20:01 -0500
Message-ID<vptm97$3tfc1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17525
.
On 02/28/2025 4:30 PM, Rick wrote:
> Be able to enter data into a .pdf form
You can complete any form using the add text function of the Comment 
function of the free Adobe Reader.

Open Comments, sellect the "T" function, position the cursor in the form 
and write the response.  You may want to adjust the font to match that 
used in the form,

When the form is complete save with your response.  To make permanent to 
a PDF printer.

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#17562

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-03-02 16:41 +0000
Message-ID<vq258j.11k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#17507
Rick <rick@nospam.com> wrote:
[...]
> I have a similar but different issue.  I have used a paid version of the 
> nearly 20-year old Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 for years which does 
> everything I need, but only runs on Windows 7.  If there is a way to get 
> it to work on Windows 11, I haven't found it.

  Have you tried it on Windows 11? If so, what error message(s) does it
give? Some of us might be able to help with that.

  FWIW, I'm using quite a bit of XP/Vista era software on Windows 11
without (m)any problems.

> Is there a free product anyone knows of which replicates the functions 
> of this product?

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#17506

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-02-28 11:30 -0500
Message-ID<vpso9u$3o8il$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17501
On 2/28/2025 9:59 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
> My wife makes books for Amazon's online sales. These aren't printed
> books, they're PDFs made to Amazon's specifications. I think she
> currently uses Word97 and "Save to PDF", but I'm not really sure. But
> the process doesn't work well and drives her nuts.
> 
> Does anybody have a clue what she _should_ be using?
> 

    I use Libre Office Writer and export to PDF. I have no idea
what Amazon's demands might be. They may have a secret
deal with Adobe or some such to push a particular product.
LO works fine for me, but I only use it for business contracts,
receipts, etc. They're just office template files that I re-use.

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#17508

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-02-28 16:47 +0000
Message-ID<m2e7lmFsmspU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17506
Newyana2 wrote:

>     I use Libre Office Writer and export to PDF. I have no idea
> what Amazon's demands might be.

The O/P might try Windows print-to-pdf ...

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#17512

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-02-28 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<vpst0b$3p47m$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17508
On 2/28/2025 11:47 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote:
> 
>>     I use Libre Office Writer and export to PDF. I have no idea
>> what Amazon's demands might be.
> 
> The O/P might try Windows print-to-pdf ...
> 

    I don't understand. One still has to have an editor to
set the layout, right? Word and Writer both do the
conversion. It sounds like Tim is saying that Word
doesn't do the layout the way that Amazon likes.

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#17514

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-02-28 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<m2ebvdFsviqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#17512
Newyana2 wrote:

>     I don't understand. One still has to have an editor to
> set the layout, right? Word and Writer both do the
> conversion.

They do, if you use "File/Save as PDF ..."

> It sounds like Tim is saying that Word
> doesn't do the layout the way that Amazon likes.

Using "File/Print" with a PDF driver such as Bullzip or Microsoft, or 
Adobe (paid) may give different results ...

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#17523

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-02-28 15:57 -0500
Message-ID<vpt7u3$3r3d1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17514
On 2/28/2025 1:01 PM, Andy Burns wrote:

> Using "File/Print" with a PDF driver such as Bullzip or Microsoft, or 
> Adobe (paid) may give different results ...
> 

     I see. Thanks. Good to know for future reference.

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