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| Started by | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| First post | 2024-12-19 20:03 -0500 |
| Last post | 2024-12-25 16:19 -0500 |
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The problem with not owning the software CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:03 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 19:55 -0700
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:52 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 07:26 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 23:15 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-12-23 23:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 11:48 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-12-25 06:54 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-25 20:39 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 22:23 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2024-12-27 11:31 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 07:04 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 16:53 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-28 19:34 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 15:07 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 15:12 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 17:11 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 13:16 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:24 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 15:39 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:06 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 17:39 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:58 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:10 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 19:21 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:55 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:02 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-29 18:35 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 19:51 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-29 22:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 03:48 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:55 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-29 20:15 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:49 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:06 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:31 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 19:12 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:53 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 21:06 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 01:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 20:52 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 17:02 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-18 11:54 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 18:46 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-30 04:51 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 09:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 00:53 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:42 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:44 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 23:14 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:09 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 00:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-12-29 01:43 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:52 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 07:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 06:58 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:17 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 20:41 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 23:31 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 10:56 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:24 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 13:50 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-31 13:18 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:14 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:44 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:22 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:36 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:27 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:16 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 18:50 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 02:30 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-30 04:55 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 07:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 01:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 16:15 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 16:39 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 19:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:30 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-30 12:53 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-30 04:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-30 13:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:56 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:45 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:31 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:15 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:03 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-04 04:50 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 08:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:42 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 01:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 21:13 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-04 21:50 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:39 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 01:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:04 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:07 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:22 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 08:23 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 22:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:12 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-07 02:10 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 14:12 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 02:26 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 13:28 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 21:28 +0000
[OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 01:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:01 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 03:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 06:47 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 08:20 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 21:18 -0500
[OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 02:34 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 22:08 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 22:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 07:19 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-05 10:39 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 03:39 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 08:13 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-05 08:52 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:53 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 21:26 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 06:38 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-29 13:19 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 08:48 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-29 08:02 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 09:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 20:56 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:03 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 23:32 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 13:21 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-29 07:41 -0700
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:09 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-03 21:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 23:28 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 21:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 22:25 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:19 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-04 04:49 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 01:10 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 15:55 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:20 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 08:11 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 23:20 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 11:53 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:32 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:29 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 18:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:26 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 08:55 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 19:32 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:17 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:14 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-25 16:19 -0500
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 10:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2JycP.183256$DYF8.27242@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #15785 |
On 2024-12-30 03:24, Chris wrote: > Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On 2024-12-28 15:12, Joel wrote: >>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-28 14:34, rbowman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You do realize there is a whole world outside of Office? >>>> >>>> Yeah, it sometimes pains me that it is brought up as often as it is as >>>> some sort of must-have piece of software. It suggests that people don't >>>> do much other than open up Word and Excel. >>> >>> >>> Yes, they get these people to buy a laptop every three years, to keep >>> up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty >>> Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my >>> computer is beyond what they could know. >> >> I was telling my wife the exact same thing. We're not doing much more >> than we were in 2008, yet a 2008 machine would be incapable of handling >> today's software (unless it's running Linux). At some point, people need >> to wake up and realize that the exponential increase in speed isn't >> offering any real benefit to users who are doing anything other than >> video editing or gaming. > > In a domestic setting, that's true. Much less so professionally. A 2008 > machine wouldn't be able to run Teams, for example. Or manage the majority > of creative, technical or scientific tasks we take for granted nowadays. A 2008 machine won't be able to run Teams, but that's not the fault of the hardware as much as the bloated nature of Microsoft's software itself. For what it's worth, my wife's 2015 Intel Core M couldn't run Teams either. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| Date | 2024-12-29 00:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltbjk1FrgqvU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15701 |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 15:07:39 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > Yeah, it sometimes pains me that it is brought up as often as it is as > some sort of must-have piece of software. It suggests that people don't > do much other than open up Word and Excel. I'm the minority report. I have never used Office. I have no need for it in my personal life and the company never installed it on the programming machines. If we get RFPs or other documents in docx or xlsx we use LibreOffice. For me, that's a read-only thing since my attempts to edit anything were disasters. The first speadsheet I encountered was SuperCalc that was bundled on the Osborne 1 CP/M machine in '81. I never figured out how to use it or what it was good for. 40 years later I've never created any document with Excel or any other spreadsheet. The closest I've come is I'm told the Power BI queries are based on Excel's. Even then I was mining a SQL Server database, not anything created in Excel. Office sofware in general is a whole other world for me. People are welcome to it but saying you must only do simple programming because you can't write a VBA script for Office is beyond sheer ignorance.
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 01:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zKecnbsivueyNO36nZ2dnZfqn_HTpa6r@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #15705 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 15:07:39 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> > Yeah, it sometimes pains me that it is brought up as often as it is as
> > some sort of must-have piece of software. It suggests that people don't
> > do much other than open up Word and Excel.
> I'm the minority report. I have never used Office. I have no need for it
> in my personal life and the company never installed it on the programming
> machines. If we get RFPs or other documents in docx or xlsx we use
> LibreOffice. For me, that's a read-only thing since my attempts to edit
> anything were disasters.
What do you use to edit/create documents and spreadsheets with others?
> The first speadsheet I encountered was SuperCalc that was bundled on the
> Osborne 1 CP/M machine in '81. I never figured out how to use it or what
> it was good for. 40 years later I've never created any document with Excel
> or any other spreadsheet. The closest I've come is I'm told the Power BI
> queries are based on Excel's. Even then I was mining a SQL Server
> database, not anything created in Excel.
> Office sofware in general is a whole other world for me. People are
> welcome to it but saying you must only do simple programming because you
> can't write a VBA script for Office is beyond sheer ignorance.
I'm surprised you don't do any documents. I have been using word
processors since I was in elementary with Apple 2's AppleWorks.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 20:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pla1nj1pgec50qe7mkfm43bqnlo1qe52sn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #15707 |
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote: >I have been using word >processors since I was in elementary with Apple 2's AppleWorks. I used it to write my second-semester college-English research paper, in 1996, because the Winblows computer was shared among the family, and I could set up the Apple //e in my room. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 07:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltcaleFb5sU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15708 |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:52:53 -0500, Joel wrote: > ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote: > >>I have been using word processors since I was in elementary with Apple >>2's AppleWorks. > > > I used it to write my second-semester college-English research paper, > in 1996, because the Winblows computer was shared among the family, and > I could set up the Apple //e in my room. The computer I used in college, an IBM 360/30, didn't have much in the way of word processing software :)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 06:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltca8sFb5sU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15707 |
On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 01:43:11 +0000, Ant wrote: > What do you use to edit/create documents and spreadsheets with others? I don't. Anything I create is done with Vim. For external use we have tech writers that make it pretty. My attempts to edit RFPs with LibreOffice don't work well, so I either use Vim and reference the sections or print relevant pages and use a pen. As far as program descriptions, expected behavior, parameters, and so forth, it's all entered into Jira directly. The tech writer extracts it to create a FSD (functional specification document) for the clients. I have never created a spreadsheet or had a reason to. Most of the spreadsheets I receive for RFPs don't make use of a spreadsheet's capabilities as I understand them. They're a convenient row and column form to enter freeform data. > I'm surprised you don't do any documents. I have been using word > processors since I was in elementary with Apple 2's AppleWorks. When I was in elementary school the Apple II was close to 20 years in the future. As a programmer you tend to read documents and produce software. Before I gradually moved to software with the advent of microprocessors I would read documents and produce schematics or sometimes logic flowcharts if necessary. Those were done on a drawing board with a 2H pencil and a handful of plastic templates.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 21:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cbn84lxaeu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #15711 |
On 2024-12-29 07:58, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 01:43:11 +0000, Ant wrote: > >> What do you use to edit/create documents and spreadsheets with others? > > I don't. Anything I create is done with Vim. For external use we have tech > writers that make it pretty. My attempts to edit RFPs with LibreOffice > don't work well, so I either use Vim and reference the sections or print > relevant pages and use a pen. Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. You can edit documents with vi. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 20:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vksfmo.c4s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15739 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: [...] > Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. This isn't that kind of group!
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 23:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e6v84lxb5m.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #15741 |
On 2024-12-29 21:41, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > [...] > >> Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. > > This isn't that kind of group! Latex is software :-P -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 10:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vku1ov.10qc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15751 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2024-12-29 21:41, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > [...] > > > >> Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. > > > > This isn't that kind of group! > > Latex is software :-P Obviously, but as you used all lowercase, it screamed for a pun. And of course, it's 'LaTeX'. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX>
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 03:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <f81c4lxlhi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #15794 |
On 2024-12-30 11:56, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2024-12-29 21:41, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>> Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. >>> >>> This isn't that kind of group! >> >> Latex is software :-P > > Obviously, but as you used all lowercase, it screamed for a pun. And > of course, it's 'LaTeX'. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX> Well, I do not talk LaTeX, so I do not know. I do know, though, that I do have a command named "latex" in my computer. cer@Telcontar:~> latex --version pdfTeX 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021/TeX Live for SUSE Linux) kpathsea version 6.3.3 Copyright 2021 Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and the Lesser GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. Primary author of pdfTeX: Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. Compiled with libpng 1.6.34; using libpng 1.6.34 Compiled with zlib 1.2.11; using zlib 1.2.13 Compiled with xpdf version 4.03 cer@Telcontar:~> -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 13:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl10bt.ui0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15833 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2024-12-30 11:56, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2024-12-29 21:41, Frank Slootweg wrote: > >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >>> [...] > >>> > >>>> Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. > >>> > >>> This isn't that kind of group! > >> > >> Latex is software :-P > > > > Obviously, but as you used all lowercase, it screamed for a pun. And > > of course, it's 'LaTeX'. > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX> > > Well, I do not talk LaTeX, so I do not know. > > I do know, though, that I do have a command named "latex" in my computer. > > cer@Telcontar:~> latex --version > pdfTeX 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021/TeX Live for SUSE Linux) > kpathsea version 6.3.3 > Copyright 2021 Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. > There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is > covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and > the Lesser GNU General Public License. > For more information about these matters, see the file > named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. > Primary author of pdfTeX: Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. > Compiled with libpng 1.6.34; using libpng 1.6.34 > Compiled with zlib 1.2.11; using zlib 1.2.13 > Compiled with xpdf version 4.03 > cer@Telcontar:~> Yes, I know you use Linux, so I indeed assumed that lowercase 'latex' is a command on Linux. I've never used LaTeX either, but from the Wikipedia ppage, I understand that LaTeX is the markup/formatting language and that <something>TeX<something> is the software/program which processes that language. That understanding id confirmed by the fact that your 'latex --version' output mentions '<something>TeX<something>', but not 'LaTeX'. Bottom line: Two guys talking about something they don't know anything about! :-)
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 13:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vl1cgq$2bb09$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15840 |
Frank Slootweg wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2024-12-30 11:56, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >> On 2024-12-29 21:41, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> [...] >> >>> >> >>>> Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. >> >>> >> >>> This isn't that kind of group! >> >> >> >> Latex is software :-P >> > >> > Obviously, but as you used all lowercase, it screamed for a pun. And >> > of course, it's 'LaTeX'. >> > >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX> >> >> Well, I do not talk LaTeX, so I do not know. >> >> I do know, though, that I do have a command named "latex" in my computer. >> >> cer@Telcontar:~> latex --version >> pdfTeX 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021/TeX Live for SUSE Linux) >> kpathsea version 6.3.3 >> Copyright 2021 Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. >> There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is >> covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and >> the Lesser GNU General Public License. >> For more information about these matters, see the file >> named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. >> Primary author of pdfTeX: Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. >> Compiled with libpng 1.6.34; using libpng 1.6.34 >> Compiled with zlib 1.2.11; using zlib 1.2.13 >> Compiled with xpdf version 4.03 >> cer@Telcontar:~> > > Yes, I know you use Linux, so I indeed assumed that lowercase 'latex' > is a command on Linux. > > I've never used LaTeX either, but from the Wikipedia ppage, I > understand that LaTeX is the markup/formatting language and that > <something>TeX<something> is the software/program which processes that > language. That understanding id confirmed by the fact that your > 'latex --version' output mentions '<something>TeX<something>', but not > 'LaTeX'. > > Bottom line: Two guys talking about something they don't know anything > about! :-) LaTeX is a buncha wrapper macros to simplify TeX, I think. I use LaTeX to generate a couple of large documents (only 300 pages each) with table contents, list of tables, list of figure, and an index. It took me awhile to create a nice look, but one benefit is being able to use vi to generate PDFs. Another benefit is avoiding wrestling with a GUI. There's a document processor, LyX, based on TeX and LaTeX, if you want a GUI. (There are others as well). -- Don't mind him; politicians always sound like that.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 19:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltiu5cF2k4sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15846 |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:18:02 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > LaTeX is a buncha wrapper macros to simplify TeX, I think. All I know is 'Tex' is not pronounced like 'Tex Ritter'.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-01-01 07:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vl3dc8$2ov5h$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15850 |
rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:18:02 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> LaTeX is a buncha wrapper macros to simplify TeX, I think. > > All I know is 'Tex' is not pronounced like 'Tex Ritter'. A friend of mine always chuckles when I mention "latex". -- Life is both difficult and time-consuming.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 00:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltm4ibFiclgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15890 |
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:44:55 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:18:02 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> >>> LaTeX is a buncha wrapper macros to simplify TeX, I think. >> >> All I know is 'Tex' is not pronounced like 'Tex Ritter'. > > A friend of mine always chuckles when I mention "latex". Do purists pronounce that like the Hawk Tuah girl?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl5vlo$3b63u$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15935 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:44:55 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >> >>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:18:02 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> >>>> LaTeX is a buncha wrapper macros to simplify TeX, I think. >>> >>> All I know is 'Tex' is not pronounced like 'Tex Ritter'. >> >> A friend of mine always chuckles when I mention "latex". > > Do purists pronounce that like the Hawk Tuah girl? Very few people pronounce anything like her. Other than perhaps "crypto scam".
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 19:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lto85cFso18U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #15964 |
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:09:28 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > Very few people pronounce anything like her. Other than perhaps "crypto > scam". That was interesting. My mind hasn't quite unraveled the whole crypto that doesn't really have any crypto behind it but then I never understood NFTs either. I guess there is an unlimited supply of greater fools.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vla58n$5r8r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #15988 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:09:28 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > > >> Very few people pronounce anything like her. Other than perhaps "crypto >> scam". > > That was interesting. My mind hasn't quite unraveled the whole crypto that > doesn't really have any crypto behind it but then I never understood NFTs > either. I guess there is an unlimited supply of greater fools. I feel she was also taken advantage of.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 20:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o5td4lx9h4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #15840 |
On 2024-12-31 14:50, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2024-12-30 11:56, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-29 21:41, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> Amazing that none of you has mentioned latex. >>>>> >>>>> This isn't that kind of group! >>>> >>>> Latex is software :-P >>> >>> Obviously, but as you used all lowercase, it screamed for a pun. And >>> of course, it's 'LaTeX'. >>> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX> >> >> Well, I do not talk LaTeX, so I do not know. >> >> I do know, though, that I do have a command named "latex" in my computer. >> >> cer@Telcontar:~> latex --version >> pdfTeX 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.22 (TeX Live 2021/TeX Live for SUSE Linux) >> kpathsea version 6.3.3 >> Copyright 2021 Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. >> There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is >> covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and >> the Lesser GNU General Public License. >> For more information about these matters, see the file >> named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. >> Primary author of pdfTeX: Han The Thanh (pdfTeX) et al. >> Compiled with libpng 1.6.34; using libpng 1.6.34 >> Compiled with zlib 1.2.11; using zlib 1.2.13 >> Compiled with xpdf version 4.03 >> cer@Telcontar:~> > > Yes, I know you use Linux, so I indeed assumed that lowercase 'latex' > is a command on Linux. > > I've never used LaTeX either, but from the Wikipedia ppage, I > understand that LaTeX is the markup/formatting language and that > <something>TeX<something> is the software/program which processes that > language. That understanding id confirmed by the fact that your > 'latex --version' output mentions '<something>TeX<something>', but not > 'LaTeX'. > > Bottom line: Two guys talking about something they don't know anything > about! :-) :-D I think I have generated output from Latex documents, but just following a recipe. And I like LyX. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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